NH OSS.

2006-01-26 Thread Ken D'Ambrosio
I was perusing the wiki entry on the HB1197 meeting (http://wiki.gnhlug.org/twiki2/bin/view/Www/HouseBill1197), and noticed something: Many of state's applications are mainframe based, most likely no similar packages. I'm not agreeing, I'm not disagreeing. But here's an interesting data point:

Re: NH OSS.

2006-01-26 Thread Christopher Schmidt
On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 08:14:25AM -0500, Ken D'Ambrosio wrote: Many of state's applications are mainframe based, most likely no similar packages. Which makes me wonder if: a) The vendors are even kinda-sorta competent, and b) if there may not be mainframe-side stuff that OSS could offload

Re: Carn1v0re?

2006-01-26 Thread Paul Lussier
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Re: Memory lane Re: Process control and such

2006-01-26 Thread Tom Buskey
http://www.pdpplanet.com/They have a Tops-10 and a Tops-20 you can get an account on and login to.There are emulators out there too. And SCO released PDP-11 version 5,6,7 unix for non commercial use w/ source awhile ago. With source! I'm sure there are Vaxen logins available out there too.-- The

Re: NH OSS.

2006-01-26 Thread Travis Roy
One thing I've noticed.. Government employees HATE change and will fight it tooth and nail. Example: Goffstown, NH (where I grew up and was very involved) upgraded the registration process for cars to computer. Before they would use typewriters. The staff was fully trained and given quick

Re: Verizon (FiOS) (Off Topic?) I have it!

2006-01-26 Thread Paul Lussier
Steven W. Orr [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am running with RCN and I really can't complain in the slightest. You're the first person I've heard say *that* about RCN. I get 11Mb/s plus they don't block me from anything. The catch is that the won't block outgoing port 25 and incoming port 80

Re: Linux NIS client to Solaris NIS server on another subnet

2006-01-26 Thread Ben Scott
On 1/25/06, Paul Lussier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes. Broadcasts on the 54 subnet won't reach the 48 subnet. That's a different statement than the 54 subnet won't transmit broadcasts. (sorry, I'm being pedantic :) Hey, quit cutting in on my territory! ;-) -- Ben

Re: Emacs

2006-01-26 Thread Paul Lussier
Jason Stephenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, but I also have auto-save disabled. I've not used auto-save in emacs in over 12 years! I have it enabled by default, but will disable it for certain buffers where it doesn't make sense, like an sql buffer that is a postgress command line :) As

Re: NH OSS.

2006-01-26 Thread Neil Schelly
On Thursday 26 January 2006 08:27 am, Christopher Schmidt wrote: The problems that a state needs to solve are oftentimes niche problems with no information on the solution required available to the public at large that is open source hackers. However, I am sure that given a list of

Re: NH OSS.

2006-01-26 Thread Christopher Schmidt
On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 08:41:55AM -0500, Travis Roy wrote: One thing I've noticed.. Government employees HATE change and will fight it tooth and nail. s/Government employees/People/ Especially as it relates to technology. -- Christopher Schmidt Web Developer

Re: Emacs

2006-01-26 Thread Ben Scott
On 1/26/06, Paul Lussier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, by and large, emacs is everywhere, and loading up emacs -nw in an ssh session on a remote system isn't to painful... FWIW/FYI: For quick edits, I find jmacs (The joe editor in Emacs emulation mode) is very fast and pretty featureful.

Re: a question about evim

2006-01-26 Thread Paul Lussier
Bill McGonigle [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, I happily go over to Google, looks for emacs and svn, and I happen upon this thread: http://svn.haxx.se/dev/archive-2003-02/0315.shtml Almost three years ago - fess up Paul, you're an emacs/svn expert by now, aren't you? Heh :) Some of us

Re: a question about evim

2006-01-26 Thread Paul Lussier
Bill Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, the fact that backup files were being acted upon instead of ignored might be counted as a bug, but leaving junk lying around like that is still just basically rude. I'll have to disagree. I find it to be friendly. Perhaps less so in

Re: Process control and such

2006-01-26 Thread Bill Sconce
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 22:38:07 -0500 Bruce Dawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's OK, when you get as old as I am, you forget what it was like to be that young! Anyone remember RT-11, IBM DOS-26.2, the Illiac-IV, or even CDC's NOS? How about an IBM-1410? [Yes, Bruce means THAT DOS. When

Re: Emacs

2006-01-26 Thread Ken D'Ambrosio
[And NOW posted from somewhere the list knows; sorry for duplicates.] I will occasionally use whatever 'vi' points to on a system for things like this. However, by and large, emacs is everywhere, and loading up emacs -nw in an ssh session on a remote system isn't to painful... I remember

Re: Linux NIS client to Solaris NIS server on another subnet

2006-01-26 Thread Tom Buskey
On 1/25/06, Tom Buskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/25/06, Paul Lussier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom Buskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I remember in the pre-Solaris 8 days we would always have a nis slaveon each subnet for clients to bind to which got the maps pushed tothem by from the

Re: Verizon (FiOS) (Off Topic?) I have it!

2006-01-26 Thread Steven W. Orr
On Thursday, Jan 26th 2006 at 08:47 -0500, quoth Paul Lussier: =Steven W. Orr [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: = = I am running with RCN and I really can't complain in the slightest. = =You're the first person I've heard say *that* about RCN. = = I get 11Mb/s plus they don't block me from anything. The

Re: Emacs

2006-01-26 Thread Paul Lussier
Tom Buskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What version of emacs do you prefer? GNU or X? These days, Gnu, but only because I started using a lot of elisp packages which weren't correctly ported to XEmacs. I also found myself running emacs in screen sessions a lot, and it seemed rather silly to

Re: Process control and such

2006-01-26 Thread Bill Sconce
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 16:45:34 -0500 Bill KE1G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ben Someone at last night's meeting (I already forget who it was) was 'Twas me. I knew I asked *someone* about it. :) Ben reporting an issue where they start some program from one window, Ben program opens a new window,

Re: Emacs

2006-01-26 Thread Steven W. Orr
On Thursday, Jan 26th 2006 at 10:54 -0500, quoth Paul Lussier: =Tom Buskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: = = What version of emacs do you prefer? GNU or X? = =These days, Gnu, but only because I started using a lot of elisp =packages which weren't correctly ported to XEmacs. I also found =myself

Re: Emacs

2006-01-26 Thread Paul Lussier
Steven W. Orr [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Current .emacs equiv is about 52K before loads. Wow, my .emacs itself is only 9.6K, but it has a lot of (load myfoo) statements where myfoo is a .el file I wrote for a specific package. Most of those files are setq statements or the like. Added to the

DLSLUG Monthly Meeting - February 2nd

2006-01-26 Thread Bill McGonigle
*** Dartmouth-Lake Sunapee Linux Users Group http://www.dlslug.org/ *** The next regular monthly meeting of the DLSLUG will be held:

Cohosting around Lebanon - suggestions?

2006-01-26 Thread William Stearns
Good afternoon, all, As many of you know, I have two cohosted rackmount machines (2U each and possibly an external drive cage), one in Pennsylvania, and one at my office in Hanover. For different reasons, I'm hoping to get those to a new cohosting facility within driving distance of

Re: Cohosting around Lebanon - suggestions?

2006-01-26 Thread Christopher Schmidt
On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 04:26:07PM -0500, William Stearns wrote: Good afternoon, all, As many of you know, I have two cohosted rackmount machines (2U each and possibly an external drive cage), one in Pennsylvania, and one at my office in Hanover. For different reasons, I'm hoping to

Re: Cohosting around Lebanon - suggestions?

2006-01-26 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Jan 26, 2006, at 16:49, Christopher Schmidt wrote: I know that we've had a lot of stuff offered to us from various places (like the hosting of this mailing list) but it might be nice to have a GNHLUG server, that could be used for other projects as well. FYI, that's in progress. Ben's

Re: Cohosting around Lebanon - suggestions?

2006-01-26 Thread Ben Scott
On 1/26/06, Christopher Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The half-racks I heard being discussed were from Ben, by Colospace. Yes. Sort of. M. Stearns had asked about colo. I mentioned Colospace, who have a facility in Manchester, NH. Somebody tossed out the figure of between $200 and $300

Re: Verizon (FiOS) (Off Topic?)

2006-01-26 Thread Sean
Well Verizon showed up unexpectedly at my door today 9 days early to ask if they could get an early start on the install. I said sure. They were here for about 3 hours. Anyway, the size of the box just to hold the excess fiber here in the house is impressive! Size is about 12x17x7. Most of

Re: Cohosting around Lebanon - suggestions?

2006-01-26 Thread Ken D'Ambrosio
Ben Scott wrote: indicates half a rack is 20 U. Assume $300/mo, and that's $15/U/month. Of course, I dunno how any of this would interact with Colospace AUP/TOS. And given that some (M. Stearns in particular) has mentioned above basic bandwidth usage, I'm sure the price will go up. But it's a

Re: Emacs

2006-01-26 Thread Jason Stephenson
Tom Buskey wrote: What version of emacs do you prefer? GNU or X? I started with GNU Emacs, and I currently use GNU Emacs. I tried X Emacs for a while, but found it a bit odd in places. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list

Re: [DLSLUG-Announce] DLSLUG Monthly Meeting - February 2nd

2006-01-26 Thread Ted Roche
A very interesting and specialized meeting! Does anyone have contacts in the Med School to find out if there'd be interest from there? Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com On Jan 26, 2006, at 1:28 PM, Bill McGonigle wrote:

Re: Cohosting around Lebanon - suggestions?

2006-01-26 Thread Ken D'Ambrosio
On Thu, January 26, 2006 11:54 pm, Bill McGonigle wrote: We'd probably want to fund a terminal server/remote power unit to share for decent non-driving management. I have a Zyplex with lots of serial ports but it only speaks telnet, so there would be need for a pokey ssh box in front of it,

Re: The rest of the world and geeks

2006-01-26 Thread Fred
On Wednesday 25 January 2006 10:11, Ken D'Ambrosio wrote: ... weenie Pragmatically, I somewhat agree, but have to disagree in principle. One of the most enlightening experiences I've ever had was jury duty: 13 of us (including an alternate) sat through days of the most mind-numbing testimony

Re: Carn1v0re?

2006-01-26 Thread Fred
On Tuesday 24 January 2006 22:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The worst mistake is underestimating your opponent. How much would the upgrade to that $5mm software package cost to get the number/vowel substitution dictionary added on? Ok, I know, we need to define cost, whether it's cost to