Re: GNHLUG Nashua, Thr 20 Apr, Eric Eldred explains the CC copyright alternative

2006-04-19 Thread mike shlitz
Hi, If we need to RSVP for Martha's tomorrow, I figure four people in my group. Mike --- Christopher Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 05:45:34AM -0500, Jim > Kuzdrall wrote: > > Who : Eric Eldred > > What : Creative Commons copyright alternative > > Where: Martha's

Re: GNHLUG Nashua, Thr 20 Apr, Eric Eldred explains the CC copyright alternative

2006-04-19 Thread Jim Kuzdrall
On Wednesday 19 April 2006 06:59 pm, Christopher Schmidt wrote: > On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 05:45:34AM -0500, Jim Kuzdrall wrote: > > Who  : Eric Eldred > > What : Creative Commons copyright alternative > > Where: Martha's Exchange > > Day  : Thur 20 Apr (*Tomorrow*) > > Time : 6:00 PM for grub, 7:30

Re: GNHLUG Nashua, Thr 20 Apr, Eric Eldred explains the CC copyright alternative

2006-04-19 Thread Christopher Schmidt
On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 05:45:34AM -0500, Jim Kuzdrall wrote: > Who  : Eric Eldred > What : Creative Commons copyright alternative > Where: Martha's Exchange > Day  : Thur 20 Apr (*Tomorrow*) > Time : 6:00 PM for grub, 7:30 PM for presentation Is someone doing an RSVP to Martha's? (I'll be there,

Re: Microsoft Says Recovery from Malware Becoming Impossible

2006-04-19 Thread Tom Buskey
On 4/19/06, Jon maddog Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: About a year ago there was a report done by a series of security experts warningabout the issues of creating "one generic brand of operating system, on onegeneric brand of instruction set" and watching as the worms and viruses attacked it full

Re: Microsoft Says Recovery from Malware Becoming Impossible

2006-04-19 Thread Python
On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 17:05 -0400, Ben Scott wrote: > > There should be relatively little rummaging around for installation > > media. > > The big time cost is not looking for CDs. > You haven't seen my office... -- Lloyd Kvam Venix Corp ___ gnhlu

Re: Microsoft Says Recovery from Malware Becoming Impossible

2006-04-19 Thread Ben Scott
On 4/19/06, Python <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry to keep beating the dead horse, but generally, the Linux reinstall > is more painless ... I don't know about that. Our Windows installs aren't really all that different from a Red Hat KickStart install. Hit F12 during boot, boot into RIS, s

Re: Microsoft Says Recovery from Malware Becoming Impossible

2006-04-19 Thread Python
On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 15:48 -0400, Ben Scott wrote: > *sigh* I hate FUD, even when it's FUD for Linux and against > Microsoft. > > Linux has the same problem. Every system ever invented has the same > problem. The problem is that if you've had a full system compromise > (whether you call yo

Re: Microsoft Says Recovery from Malware Becoming Impossible

2006-04-19 Thread Ben Scott
On 4/19/06, Jon maddog Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> What Microsoft is saying -- you need to reinstall from trusted media after >> a root compromise -- have been Standard Operating Procedure in the >> security community for decades, on all platforms, nix and doze included. > > True, but the e

Re: Microsoft Says Recovery from Malware Becoming Impossible

2006-04-19 Thread Ben Scott
On 4/19/06, Tyson Sawyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ben Scott wrote: >> The problem is that if you've had a full system compromise >> (whether you call your superuser "root", Administrator, or >> SUPERVISOR), you can no longer trust the computer to check itself. >> The attacker can subvert the sy

Re: Microsoft Says Recovery from Malware Becoming Impossible

2006-04-19 Thread Jon maddog Hall
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > What Microsoft is saying -- you need to reinstall from trusted media after > a root compromise -- have been Standard Operating Procedure in the security > community for decades, on all platforms, nix and doze included. True, but the ease of getting to such a compromise

Re: Microsoft Says Recovery from Malware Becoming Impossible

2006-04-19 Thread Tyson Sawyer
Ben Scott wrote: The problem is that if you've had a full system compromise (whether you call your superuser "root", Administrator, or SUPERVISOR), you can no longer trust the computer to check itself. The attacker can subvert the system to lie to you about itself. How about boot disks that ha

Re: Microsoft Says Recovery from Malware Becoming Impossible

2006-04-19 Thread Ben Scott
On 4/19/06, Bill Sconce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "When you are dealing with rootkits and some advanced spyware > programs, the only solution is to rebuild from scratch. In some > cases, there really is no way to recover without nuking the systems > from orbit," > > (Other than

Microsoft Says Recovery from Malware Becoming Impossible

2006-04-19 Thread Bill Sconce
A wonderful article. http://www.baselinemag.com/print_article2/0,1217,a=174989,00.asp It quotes a program manager in the Security Solutions group at Microsoft itself, "When you are dealing with rootkits and some advanced spyware programs, the only solution is to rebuild from scratch.

Re: Exim as a secondary MX?

2006-04-19 Thread Neil Schelly
On Wednesday 19 April 2006 09:53 am, Mark Komarinski wrote: > Is anyone doing this now or have links to some docs I can read on this? > Once I get this set up, it might make a good meeting topic some month... I'll be migrating our Exim mail server soon to another IP address, so I'm setting up a s

Junk, er, useful stuff

2006-04-19 Thread Ted Roche
{Darn. Posting to the wrong list. Resent. Apologies for duplication} I have some piles of stuff I'm hoping to sort out before HossTraders to offer it first come, first serve. If there's anyone on the GNHLUG list who'd be interested in relieving me of any of the items below, speak up and I c

Re: GNHLUG - Hosstraders - May 5 & 6 - Hopkinton

2006-04-19 Thread Ted Roche
I'll be there. Got a load of stuff to unload, and some ideas for new stuff to buy ... We've got handouts left over from LinuxWorld that should cover us. And a banner. I can bring an extension cord or two. And I'm snaking ethernet in the house so we can hang a WAP out the window if anyone

Exim as a secondary MX?

2006-04-19 Thread Mark Komarinski
A friend of mine (also using Exim) had a lightning strike at his house, taking out his 'net connection for a few days. Since he's running his own mail server at home, he wasn't able to receive anything for a few days. I'd like to get my server set up as a secondary MX, but I really don't know

GNHLUG - Hosstraders - May 5 & 6 - Hopkinton

2006-04-19 Thread Ben Scott
What : Hosstraders Hamfest Who : Anyone Why : Advocacy/education/help, buy/sell/trade, fun Where: Hopkinton State Fairgrounds, Hopkinton, NH Start: Fri 5 May at 9 AM End : Sat 6 May at around 2 PM It's Hosstraders time again! As many GNHLUGers know, it has become something of a tradition f

GNHLUG Nashua, Thr 20 Apr, Eric Eldred explains the CC copyright alternative

2006-04-19 Thread Jim Kuzdrall
Who  : Eric Eldred What : Creative Commons copyright alternative Where: Martha's Exchange Day  : Thur 20 Apr (*Tomorrow*) Time : 6:00 PM for grub, 7:30 PM for presentation :: Overview Have you found that the code-oriented GPL doesn't quite fit your text, music, or visual creation? The Creati