On Nov 14, 2007 11:40 PM, Chip Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Probably doable for now, but there's nothing stopping your ISP from
> intercepting all outgoing DNS traffic from end-user IPs and redirecting
> them to the ISP's recursive servers.
Yah, eventually, they can cut you off. They a
On November 14, 2007, Ben Scott sent me the following:
> I suggest just running your own caching resolver (ISC BIND named,
> tinydns, whatever) and bypassing the ISP's mess entirely.
Probably doable for now, but there's nothing stopping your ISP from
intercepting all outgoing DNS traffic from en
On Nov 14, 2007 9:03 PM, Ric Werme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And I still have no good idea of exactly what Gnome is and isn't ...
That's okay, the GNOME developers have the same problem.
HHOS.
-- Ben
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On Nov 14, 2007 2:12 PM, Ted Roche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> what's the benefits and downsides of running with the desktop
> the distro defaults to?
Things I like about my more minimalist approach:
A1. KISS. Complexity breeds problems. "Perfection is archived not
when there is nothing left to add
Ted Roche pondered:
>Star wrote:
>>
>> My question here is this: What are users here using if they shy away
>> from all of the main-stream (can that be said with Linux yet?)
>> desktops and go for that "One Off" style
>A counter question: what's the benefits and downsides of running with
>the de
I'd also be interested in a gambit like this; no way could I possibly
afford such wack entrance fees, but I'd be happy to chip in for hotel room/s
and I'd bring down however many cases of Vermont microbrew would be
necessary...
I'd guess this would have to be sorta "classified" should we go ahead
On Nov 14, 2007 5:22 PM, Rob Lembree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Verizon recently (I think) ...
Yup. NANOG thread here:
http://www.merit.edu/mail.archives/nanog/msg04321.html
I suggest just running your own caching resolver (ISC BIND named,
tinydns, whatever) and bypassing the ISP's mess e
On Nov 14, 2007 6:35 PM, Bill McGonigle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'll be in the hotel across the street at the CentOS Summit, where
> they'll simulcast the Redhat Summit from their attendee's wifi helmet-
> cam. Bring some chips and throw a five in the shoebox to help cover
> the room cost.
On Nov 14, 2007, at 17:22, Rob Lembree wrote:
> It breaks the internet.
Not just that, Verizon gets to own every domain name that their
customers might try to get to if they don't exist. Everybody else
has to pay real money to get that. Unfair abuse of a monopoly
position, anyone?
Next u
On Nov 14, 2007, at 17:22, Ted Roche wrote:
> Red Hat Summit 2005, N'Orleans, $999
> Red Hat Summit 2006, Nashville, $1199.
> Red Hat Summit 2007, San Diego, $1349
> Ted "Pattern? We don't see no stinkin' Pattern" Roche
Wow, breaking 2 grand this decade... IIRC we were offered a very nice
LUG d
Rob Lembree wrote:
> Verizon recently (I think) put in a handy DNS "helper" that redirects
> DNS requests that result in a "not found" to their own servers.
> This completely breaks lots of stuff, and they should be lashed 50
> times with a wet noodle for doing so. It breaks the internet.
>
>
Star wrote:
> I know the benies to using KDE and Gnome, i'm wondering about the
> multitude of users with Black/Whitebox with PERLed out menues and the
> likes...
>
For me, it has been only recently that my hardware has actually been of
a relatively current breed. During college, I relied upon a
Ben Scott wrote:
> On Nov 14, 2007 2:48 PM, Ted Roche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Customers, Partners and Open Source Community Members Invited to Join
>> Together June 18-20 in Boston, Mass.
>
> Anyone have ballpark figures for what admittance to this event usually
> costs?
>
Red Hat Summi
Verizon recently (I think) put in a handy DNS "helper" that redirects
DNS requests that result in a "not found" to their own servers.
This completely breaks lots of stuff, and they should be lashed 50
times with a wet noodle for doing so. It breaks the internet.
To their credit, they have an
On Nov 14, 2007 2:48 PM, Ted Roche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Customers, Partners and Open Source Community Members Invited to Join
> Together June 18-20 in Boston, Mass.
Anyone have ballpark figures for what admittance to this event usually costs?
-- Ben
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Ben Scott wrote:
> On Nov 14, 2007 2:48 PM, Ted Roche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Customers, Partners and Open Source Community Members Invited to Join
>> Together June 18-20 in Boston, Mass.
>
> Anyone have ballpark figures for what admittance to this event usually
> costs?
>
Well, JBossWo
About a year ago, I sent a Software Freedom CD to my patent lawyer,
because his WordPerfect could not read the doc files I was exporting
from OpenOffice. I suggested that he could copy and paste from my doc
format into WordPerfect if he had a copy of OO to display them.
He reluctantly
Red Hat Announces Fourth-Annual Red Hat Summit
Customers, Partners and Open Source Community Members Invited to Join
Together June 18-20 in Boston, Mass.
(FUDCon is planned for the same time/place: a separate,
no-admission-charged venue for that one...)
http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site
On Nov 14, 2007 2:12 PM, Ted Roche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A counter question: what's the benefits and downsides of running with
> the desktop the distro defaults to? Assuming a recent machine (say, two
> gigahertz of some CPU or two, at least a gig a RAM), what's the pros and
> cons?
What ma
Star wrote:
>
> My question here is this: What are users here using if they shy away
> from all of the main-stream (can that be said with Linux yet?)
> desktops and go for that "One Off" style
>
A counter question: what's the benefits and downsides of running with
the desktop the distro default
A lean desktop I like is icewm. It installs
easily (fedora/yum) and runs well on trailing edge
hardware. It's good for remote desktop use
too... To get the menus populated, there is a tool
MenuMaker which works like magic. I think it supports
fvwm as well.
http://www.icewm.org
http://menumaker.so
.. Original Message ...
On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:30:06 -0500 "Star" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>My question here is this: What are users here using if they shy away
>from all of the main-stream (can that be said with Linux yet?)
>desktops and go for that "One Off" style
I've been using fvw
On Nov 14, 2007 10:27 AM, TARogue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The problem with most of those is that they are FVWM2, which is nothing
> at all like regular FVWM.
The config file syntax was heavily modified in FVWM version 2.x, no
question. For the better, I think, but it's certainly a pain to
Star said:
>
> ...
>
> My question here is this: What are users here using if they shy away
> from all of the main-stream (can that be said with Linux yet?)
> desktops and go for that "One Off" style
>
> ...
>
It's still probably too "mainstream" compared to fvwm, but I just want
something simple
On Nov 14, 2007 12:30 AM, Star <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Okay, so it sounded better with the Bob Seger riff playing in the back
> of my head...
>
> Anyway: Lately, I realized that I was nothing short of bored with the
> two major-player options for the desktop interface. Sure, the
> convienie
On Nov 14, 2007 9:10 AM, Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A Google Image Search for "fvwm" gives you a good idea of what one
> can do with FVWM for bling:
>
> http://www.google.com/images?q=fvwm
>
> -- Ben
>
The problem with most of those is that they are FVWM2, which is nothing
at all like
I've used all desktop environments and minimalistic window managers:
GNOME, KDE, Fluxbox, blackbox, WindowMaker, AfterStep, FVWM,
Enlightenment, Openbox, ton of them, and for the past 6+ months I've
been using wmii which I have to say is by far the best out of all the
minimalistic Window Mangers. T
On Nov 14, 2007 12:30 AM, Star <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I know Ben has his 'puter wired to Model 37 Teletype, 'cause that's
> how Unix was meant to be run ...
ROTFL!
Actually, I use FVWM. It's about as completely customizable as you
can get (short of modifying source code), so I can twea
Call 775-8680 for Technical Assistance
I am out of the office today.
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I use ctwm because it's an un-bloated, multi-workspace
WM. Here's my (compressed & uuencoded) .ctwmrc, FWIW:
begin 644 .ctwmrc.gz
M'XL(")'U.D<``RYC='=M!GZ5?,A?=NZ*!]F=9+C[>._QW:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"('\KJ
MT^$BG;@Z^9R?H)*N3T[3*TG'NDGKA)[EMAIL PROTECTED]
M6>A7PZ;2)DDKETPJE^+^X<^Z2:MFN=BA'<#/AQ,'#5J3
Who : Ted Roche, Ted Roche and Associates, http://www.tedroche.com
What : An introduction to Cascading Style Sheets
Where: Martha's Exchange
Day : Thur 15 Nov **Tomorrow**
Time : 6:00 PM for grub, 7:30 PM for discussion
:: Overview
A Cascading Style Sheet (CSS) describes the visual presen
> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:30:06 -0500
> From: Star <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> starting to visualize blood). So I cracked open the man-pages,
> trudged through all of the forums that I could find (locating
> thousands of links that are years out of date) and have a great
> beginning on a working, fun
On Nov 14, 2007, at 00:30, Star wrote:
> I know the benies to using KDE and Gnome, i'm wondering about the
> multitude of users with Black/Whitebox with PERLed out menues and the
> likes...
Lots of people rave about fluxbox. I once really liked WindowMaker,
haven't tired it recently enough to
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