YAQ on /usr/bin/ld

2008-07-23 Thread Labitt, Bruce
You all must be tired of me by now, but I've got YAQ (yet another question) on ld. (At least I have been bringing up new topics to the list, and they are linux related.) I have been trying to compile octave for a while and am stumbling on an odd failure (I think) with ld. About 20 minutes

Re: YAQ on /usr/bin/ld

2008-07-23 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Jul 23, 2008, at 09:36, Labitt, Bruce wrote: libpcre.so and libpcre.a are in /lib64. Why doesn't ld find it?, especially since I did pass the argument -L/lib64 ? Or am I looking in the wrong place? For giggles I tried /usr/bin/ld -L/lib64 -lpcre and get /usr/bin/ld: skipping

Meaning/usage of $_ in bash

2008-07-23 Thread Michael ODonnell
This is just a nit but I've never understood the meaning/usage of the $_ variable in bash. I did RTFM and it says: When bash invokes an external command, the variable $_ is set to the full file name of the command and passed to that command in its environment. ...which seems to describe

Re: Meaning/usage of $_ in bash

2008-07-23 Thread VirginSnow
From: Michael ODonnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:57:14 -0400 When bash invokes an external command, the variable $_ is set to the full file name of the command and passed to that command in its environment. ...which seems to describe one piece of how it actually

RE: YAQ on /usr/bin/ld

2008-07-23 Thread Labitt, Bruce
-Original Message- From: Bill McGonigle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 12:54 PM To: Labitt, Bruce Cc: gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org Subject: Re: YAQ on /usr/bin/ld On Jul 23, 2008, at 09:36, Labitt, Bruce wrote: libpcre.so and libpcre.a are in /lib64. Why

Re: Meaning/usage of $_ in bash

2008-07-23 Thread Thomas Charron
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:57 PM, Michael ODonnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is just a nit but I've never understood the meaning/usage of the $_ variable in bash. I did RTFM and it says: When bash invokes an external command, the variable $_ is set to the full file name of the command

Re: YAQ on /usr/bin/ld

2008-07-23 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Jul 23, 2008, at 13:21, Labitt, Bruce wrote: /lib is seen before /lib64. What does this mean? well, that reflects the search order, but that shouldn't be a problem if it finds the correct one. If ldconfig is seeing it, ld should know about it... WRT adding paths, how does one name

automatic hard linking

2008-07-23 Thread t . littlefield
Hello, A co-worker and I were talking about various ways to do 'backups' to try and prevent data loss. The topic came around to a file system we had used at a previous job. I can't remember the specifics, but we believe it was a Network Appliance system. One of the cool features it offered was

Re: automatic hard linking

2008-07-23 Thread Drew Van Zandt
I believe JRV has a script which does roughly what you're asking about, though I think it's a grandfathered setup in groups of three rather than a month... IOW if run hourly it would keep the past three hours, then 3/6/9 hours ago, then 27/54/81 hours ago, etc. - I think he's on-list, in which

Re: automatic hard linking

2008-07-23 Thread Michael ODonnell
The filesystem code sometimes forbids hard links for directories; I think ext3 is one example where it's not allowed. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/

Re: automatic hard linking

2008-07-23 Thread Cole Tuininga
On Wed, 2008-07-23 at 17:48 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the cool features it offered was a series of hourly, nightly and a monthly backup of files. We kind of surmised that it was some sort of hard linking of the same file name in a different directory... i.e. Check out rsnapshot

Re: automatic hard linking

2008-07-23 Thread mike ledoux
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 05:48:10PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the cool features it offered was a series of hourly, nightly and a monthly backup of files. We kind of surmised that it was some sort of hard linking of the same file name in a different directory... i.e. ~/foo.txt

Re: automatic hard linking

2008-07-23 Thread VirginSnow
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:48:10 + A co-worker and I were talking about various ways to do 'backups' to try and prevent data loss. The topic came around to a file system we had used at a previous job. I can't remember the specifics, but we believe it was a

Re: automatic hard linking

2008-07-23 Thread mike ledoux
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 03:39:07PM -0400, Ben Scott wrote: On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 3:01 PM, mike ledoux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (fscking scalix requires a complete copy of the mail store to extract even a single message for restore, which is nothing if not a massive PITA) Wow, it

Re: Meaning/usage of $_ in bash

2008-07-23 Thread Ben Scott
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:57 PM, Michael ODonnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When bash invokes an external command, the variable $_ is set to the full file name of the command and passed to that command in its environment. That appears to function as described. I wrote a small program to

Re: automatic hard linking

2008-07-23 Thread Tom Buskey
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 1:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, A co-worker and I were talking about various ways to do 'backups' to try and prevent data loss. The topic came around to a file system we had used at a previous job. I can't remember the specifics, but we believe it was a

Re: Meaning/usage of $_ in bash

2008-07-23 Thread VirginSnow
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:27:09 -0400 From: Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] As Thomas Charon hinted at, it appears to start out set to the last external command, but then it gets set to the last word of the previous command line. I dunno if that's by design, or just an accident of

Re: Meaning/usage of $_ in bash

2008-07-23 Thread Michael ODonnell
OK - I now believe all observed behaviors are explainable if that passage from TFM: When bash invokes an external command, the variable $_ is set to the full file name of the command and passed to that command in its environment. ...is augmented thus: Internally, bash uses $_ as

Re: Meaning/usage of $_ in bash

2008-07-23 Thread Michael ODonnell
The _ variable appears to be overloaded... with different meanings in different circumstances. Qutoing the bash man page: _ At shell startup, set to the absolute file name of the shell or shell script being executed as passed in the argument list. Subsequently, expands to the last

mythtv and digital tv

2008-07-23 Thread Frank DiPrete
It looks like it's time to switch tv service. I am using basic analog cable and Comcrap has been eliminating channels from the lineup to use the bandwidth for their digital tv service. Of course they kept all of the ^$*-ing shopping channels in tact. To sum it up, comcrap customers are forced

Re: mythtv and digital tv

2008-07-23 Thread Travis Roy
To sum it up, comcrap customers are forced to pay to solve their technical problem. This would be true if you were using analog OTA channels, you still need a digital tuner. Anybody out there using a digital tuner card (pci) with mythtv or perhaps a fourth friggin box ? I know Kenta is

Re: mythtv and digital tv

2008-07-23 Thread Frank DiPrete
Travis Roy wrote: To sum it up, comcrap customers are forced to pay to solve their technical problem. This would be true if you were using analog OTA channels, you still need a digital tuner. but I'm not so it still is. Anybody out there using a digital tuner card (pci) with mythtv or

Re: Meaning/usage of $_ in bash

2008-07-23 Thread Ben Scott
For added fun, try this series of commands: echo foo echo /$_/ echo /$_/ echo /$_/ echo /$_/ -- Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/

Re: Meaning/usage of $_ in bash

2008-07-23 Thread Michael ODonnell
For added fun, try this series of commands: echo foo echo /$_/ And given what's been learned (ie. that $_ and !$ are equivalent in this context) it should now be no surprise that the same result is seen with echo /!$/ ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing

Re: mythtv and digital tv

2008-07-23 Thread Ben Scott
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 6:25 PM, Frank DiPrete [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It looks like it's time to switch tv service. I am using basic analog cable and Comcrap has been eliminating channels from the lineup to use the bandwidth for their digital tv service. Obtain (e.g., purchase) TVs or

Re: mythtv and digital tv

2008-07-23 Thread Ben Scott
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 6:41 PM, Travis Roy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can get TiVo on yhe Motorola set top box. A friend of mine got that, and I spent a few minutes trying it out. My cursory impresion: It appears to basically be the Motorola/Comcast DVR box, with a TiVo theme or skin in the

Re: mythtv and digital tv

2008-07-23 Thread Michael ODonnell
Full disclosure: I hate Comcast. You're not alone. The Worst Company In America competition at consumerist.com is now down to CountryWide vs. ComCast: http://tinyurl.com/65wcns ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org

Re: mythtv and digital tv

2008-07-23 Thread Jarod Wilson
On Wed, 2008-07-23 at 18:25 -0400, Frank DiPrete wrote: It looks like it's time to switch tv service. I am using basic analog cable and Comcrap has been eliminating channels from the lineup to use the bandwidth for their digital tv service. Of course they kept all of the ^$*-ing shopping