For all you outspoken people....and some of you quiet ones...

2009-01-12 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
I have been asked to nominate some people and products for "the most" or "the best" for 2008. Now I am happy to do this, but I also am a firm believer in the concept that (for the most part) a group of people usually gives a better answer than a single person, so I am going to open this up to the

Re: Bots don't honor 301 :(

2009-01-12 Thread VirginSnow
> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:46:26 -0500 > From: "Ben Scott" > not to. There are orders of magnitude more bots then web servers. That's quite a claim. Do you have evidence for this? In order for the scenario you're suggesting to take place, vulnerable hosts would have to be attacked by *multip

Re: Bots don't honor 301 :(

2009-01-12 Thread Ben Scott
DISCLAIMER: I always speak only for myself, unless otherwise explicitly indicated. On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 3:02 PM, wrote: >> > They would just come back or go bother someone else. >> >> This is not a effective deterrent. > > How so? What part of "come back or go bother someone else" is unc

Re: [k]ubuntu Jaunty

2009-01-12 Thread jkinz
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 03:59:01PM -0500, Thomas Charron wrote: > On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Arc Riley wrote: > > Not recommended yet unless you're willing to deal bug reports. > > I suggest waiting until beta1 at minimum, end of March. See: > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule

Re: [k]ubuntu Jaunty

2009-01-12 Thread Thomas Charron
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Arc Riley wrote: > On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Thomas Charron wrote: >> Anyone using Kubuntu Jaunty? Considering moveing from Intrepid, I >> *really* want to get some of the newer versions of KDE apps. > Not recommended yet unless you're willing to deal bug

Re: [k]ubuntu Jaunty

2009-01-12 Thread Arc Riley
Not recommended yet unless you're willing to deal bug reports. I suggest waiting until beta1 at minimum, end of March. See: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Thomas Charron wrote: > Anyone using Kubuntu Jaunty? Considering moveing from Intrepid, I

[k]ubuntu Jaunty

2009-01-12 Thread Thomas Charron
Anyone using Kubuntu Jaunty? Considering moveing from Intrepid, I *really* want to get some of the newer versions of KDE apps. -- -- Thomas ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-

Re: Bots don't honor 301 :(

2009-01-12 Thread VirginSnow
> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 10:35:05 -0500 > From: "Ben Scott" > On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Larry Cook wrote: > > They would just come back or go bother someone else. > > #ifdef CURMUDGEON > > They'll do that anyway. > > This is not a effective deterrent. How so? If you're keeping a

Re: Bots don't honor 301 :(

2009-01-12 Thread Thomas Charron
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Cole Tuininga wrote: > On Mon, 2009-01-12 at 12:41 -0500, jk...@kinz.org wrote: >> IIRC that effort was shut down by concentrated counter attacks >> by the spammers. As for the name, all I can recall was it had >> the word blue in it, I think. > I believe Blue Fro

Re: Bots don't honor 301 :(

2009-01-12 Thread Cole Tuininga
On Mon, 2009-01-12 at 12:41 -0500, jk...@kinz.org wrote: > IIRC that effort was shut down by concentrated counter attacks > by the spammers. As for the name, all I can recall was it had > the word blue in it, I think. I believe Blue Frog (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Frog) is what you're spe

Re: compiling gcc q's

2009-01-12 Thread Michael Nolin
> > dependencies. I have to be sure I get releases of gcc > and binutils > > that were part of the same tools release. > > > > mno...@nolin-ws:/local/gnu> > > binutils-2.17/ gcc-4.1.0/ gdb > > > > > > > > Michael Nolin > > > > > > > > How does one match them up? Is there a binutils

Re: compiling gcc q's

2009-01-12 Thread bruce . labitt
Michael Nolin wrote on 01/12/2009 12:14:42 PM: > > > > > > I'm trying to get a more modern version of gcc on my > > Cell Blade, so I > > thought I'd compile it. I've run into an error > > right away in the > > configure stage. > > > > > configure:4573: gcc -o conftest -g O2 -I/usr/local/

Re: Unrelated C runtime error

2009-01-12 Thread bruce . labitt
fftw3.2-alpha3 for the past 4 months. The library was not updated, to my knowledge. or fftw3.2 ==> it does the same thing. -Bruce "Thomas Charron" 01/12/2009 12:01 PM To bruce.lab...@autoliv.com cc gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org Subject Re: Unrelated C runtime error On Mon, Jan 12,

Re: Bots don't honor 301 :(

2009-01-12 Thread jkinz
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 10:53:19AM -0500, Thomas Charron wrote: > I remember what I considered one of the most effective efforts to > shut down spammers, by simply taking away the cost insentive to use > the service. Unfortunatly, it was considered a counter attack, and > hence shut down.. > >

Re: compiling gcc q's

2009-01-12 Thread Michael Nolin
> I'm trying to get a more modern version of gcc on my > Cell Blade, so I > thought I'd compile it. I've run into an error > right away in the > configure stage. > > configure:4573: gcc -o conftest -g O2 -I/usr/local/include > -I/usr/local/include conftest.c -L/usr/local/lib > -L/usr/loca

Re: Unrelated C runtime error

2009-01-12 Thread Thomas Charron
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 11:23 AM, wrote: > For some reason, unknown to me, a previously running program now has a > runtime error. Here is the error snippet: > It appears in my program when I used the fftw3 call to free up memory. It > is somewhat puzzling, since I have used this for 4 months n

Re: compiling gcc q's

2009-01-12 Thread Mark Komarinski
bruce.lab...@autoliv.com wrote: > /usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/local/lib/libmpfr.so when > searching for -lmfpr > . > . > . > /usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/local/lib/libgmp.a when searching > for -lgmp > > Yes, it says it is incompatible. How does one make it compativble?

Unrelated C runtime error

2009-01-12 Thread bruce . labitt
For some reason, unknown to me, a previously running program now has a runtime error. Here is the error snippet: *** glibc detected *** ./bladefftw: double free or corruption (!prev): 0x00. *** Backtrace: /lib64/libc.so.6 /lib64/libc.so.6(cfree-0xed5c8) /usr/local/lib/libfftw3.

Re: Bots don't honor 301 :(

2009-01-12 Thread Larry Cook
Ben Scott wrote: > On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Larry Cook wrote: >> They would just come back or go bother someone else. > This is not a effective deterrent. It's the security equivalent of > masturbation. It may make you feel good, but that's all it's doing. It felt good until you poin

compiling gcc q's

2009-01-12 Thread bruce . labitt
I'm trying to get a more modern version of gcc on my Cell Blade, so I thought I'd compile it. I've run into an error right away in the configure stage. Two of the pre-requisites for gcc are libgmp and libmfpr. I compiled them according to their respective instructions and passed all the make

Re: Bots don't honor 301 :(

2009-01-12 Thread Thomas Charron
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Ben Scott wrote: > On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Larry Cook wrote: >> They would just come back or go bother someone else. > #ifdef CURMUDGEON > They'll do that anyway. > This is not a effective deterrent. It's the security equivalent of > masturbation. It

Re: Bots don't honor 301 :(

2009-01-12 Thread Ben Scott
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Larry Cook wrote: > They would just come back or go bother someone else. #ifdef CURMUDGEON They'll do that anyway. This is not a effective deterrent. It's the security equivalent of masturbation. It may make you feel good, but that's all it's doing. If

Re: Bots don't honor 301 :(

2009-01-12 Thread Larry Cook
virgins...@vfemail.net wrote: > I was thinking about accepting the connection, maybe sending out a few > headers, and then the stalling the connection. A friend, back in 2003, was having problems with bad bots so I wrote him the following script which accepts the connection, logs and emails some