Re: [GNHLUG] MerriLUG Nashua, Thur 15 Jan, Help!!! Org Meeting at MerriLUG

2009-01-15 Thread Heather Brodeur
Jim Kuzdrall wrote: Who : The friendly, suave, intelligent, knowledgeable MerriLUG group What : New program coordinator and speaker list Where: Martha's Exchange Day : Thur 15 Jan **Tomorrow** Time : 6:00 PM for grub, 7:30 PM for discussion (usually upstairs) I expect to be arriving

Boston Linux Meeting Wednesday, January 21, 2009 Improving online education and documentation for developers

2009-01-15 Thread Jerry Feldman
When: January 21, 2009 7PM (6:30PM for QA) Topic: Improving online education and documentation for developers Moderator: Andy Oram, Senior Editor, O'Reilly Media Location: MIT Building E51, Room 325 NOTE: Room Change Andy talks about Praxagora, an API for Project Educational Tools Hundreds of

Re: Re: Blackduck Software and IP

2009-01-15 Thread paul . cour1
Bill said: I'm reading a book about why this destroys shareholder valueWhat is the name of the Book?-pcJan 14, 2009 06:43:40 PM, b...@bfccomputing.com wrote:On 2009-01-14 3:35 PM, Jeff Macdonald wrote: This isn't strictly Linux related, but a pointy-hair boss here mentioned to a peer of mine

Re: Re: Blackduck Software and IP

2009-01-15 Thread Jeff Macdonald
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 8:01 AM, paul.co...@verizon.net wrote: Bill said: I'm reading a book about why this destroys shareholder value What is the name of the Book? ditto -- Jeff Macdonald Ayer, MA ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list

Re: Blackduck Software and IP

2009-01-15 Thread Jeff Macdonald
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 6:39 PM, Bill McGonigle b...@bfccomputing.com wrote: The company I work for doesn't ship any code. We simply use open source in house to provide services. See SCO v. AutoZone, SCO v. Chrysler. Autozone, at least, is still spending lawyer-dollars on this case, c.,

Re: Blackduck Software and IP

2009-01-15 Thread Jeff Macdonald
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Paul Moore pcmo...@umich.edu wrote: [1] https://fossbazaar.org/home Wow, very cool. Thanks very much for that link. -- Jeff Macdonald Ayer, MA ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org

Re: Blackduck Software and IP

2009-01-15 Thread Kevin D. Clark
Jeff Macdonald writes: But, as I said before, we don't distribute any code. You've made this statement twice now, but I myself don't understand how this is relevant to the issue at hand. The common licenses that are being discussed here do not have language in them that reads if you don't

Fwd: [nhruby-announce] Meetup Reminder

2009-01-15 Thread Jonathan Linowes
I'll be there, and looking forward to seeing y'all :) Begin forwarded message: From: Nick Plante n...@zerosum.org Date: January 12, 2009 6:25:51 PM EST To: nhruby-announce nhruby-annou...@googlegroups.com Subject: [nhruby-announce] Meetup Reminder Reply-To: nhruby-annou...@googlegroups.com

Re: Blackduck Software and IP

2009-01-15 Thread Jeff Macdonald
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Kevin D. Clark kevin_d_cl...@comcast.net wrote: Jeff Macdonald writes: But, as I said before, we don't distribute any code. You've made this statement twice now, but I myself don't understand how this is relevant to the issue at hand. The common licenses

Re: Blackduck Software and IP

2009-01-15 Thread Arc Riley
I guess this could be ignorance on my part, but it was my understanding that at least with the GPL, one could do whatever they want with the code. But if the code was later distributed, one had to abide by the additional terms of the GPL. Your understanding is correct, private use is not

Re: Blackduck Software and IP

2009-01-15 Thread Kevin D. Clark
Jeff Macdonald writes: I guess this could be ignorance on my part, but it was my understanding that at least with the GPL, one could do whatever they want with the code. But if the code was later distributed, one had to abide by the additional terms of the GPL. I believe you have some

Re: Blackduck Software and IP

2009-01-15 Thread jkinz
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 11:22:47AM -0500, Jeff Macdonald wrote: Jeff Macdonald writes: But, as I said before, we don't distribute any code. .. I guess this could be ignorance on my part, but it was my understanding that at least with the GPL, one could do whatever they want with

Re: Blackduck Software and IP

2009-01-15 Thread Tom Buskey
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Kevin D. Clark kevin_d_cl...@comcast.netwrote: Jeff Macdonald writes: But, as I said before, we don't distribute any code. You've made this statement twice now, but I myself don't understand how this is relevant to the issue at hand. The common

Re: Blackduck Software and IP

2009-01-15 Thread Donald M Leslie
I think that calling them a scam is a thoughtless remark. They presented at Pierce Law along with Richard Stallman , Dan Ravisher ( Free Software Foundation) and others on Law and Technology. They said today you can no longer blindly ship software hoping you actually own everything in the

Re: Blackduck Software and IP

2009-01-15 Thread Don Leslie
I think that calling them a scam is a thoughtless remark. They presented at Pierce Law along with Richard Stallman , Dan Ravisher ( Free Software Foundation) and others on Law and Technology. They said today you can no longer blindly ship software hoping you actually own everything in the

Re: Blackduck Software and IP

2009-01-15 Thread Bill McGonigle
On 2009-01-15 8:43 AM, Jeff Macdonald wrote: um, but that would mean that BlackDuck has copies of everyone propriety code, which it can't. The A,B,C example earlier in this thread is more like what I believe BlackDuck is trying to prevent. But, as I said before, we don't distribute any code.

Re: Blackduck Software and IP

2009-01-15 Thread Bill McGonigle
On 2009-01-15 8:01 AM, paul.co...@verizon.net wrote: Bill said: I'm reading a book about why this destroys shareholder value What is the name of the Book? The Innovator's Solution. I'm only done with the first couple chapters, so I can't recommend the book as a whole yet, but the premise

Re: Blackduck Software and IP

2009-01-15 Thread Kevin D. Clark
Tom Buskey writes: I think the confusion is over what code refers to. Instead, use binaries and source so there's no ambiguity. I think that this is the best observation in the entire thread. This is what I stumbled over in the original question. Now that I re-read the original question I

Re: Blackduck Software and IP

2009-01-15 Thread Paul Lussier
Jeff Macdonald macfisher...@gmail.com writes: Hi all, This isn't strictly Linux related, but a pointy-hair boss here mentioned to a peer of mine the desire to bring these folks in. I'm at a loss why any company would actually need such a service, so I'm wondering if any of you have

Re: Blackduck Software and IP

2009-01-15 Thread Jeff Macdonald
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Kevin D. Clark kevin_d_cl...@comcast.net wrote: Tom Buskey writes: I think the confusion is over what code refers to. Instead, use binaries and source so there's no ambiguity. I think that this is the best observation in the entire thread. This is what I

Re: Blackduck Software and IP

2009-01-15 Thread Bill McGonigle
On 2009-01-15 5:36 PM, Paul Lussier wrote: BlackDuck (i.e. specifically my friend) has spent months painstakingly researching each and every package for Debian (and probably RH, others) and created a database correlating versions with packages with licenses, etc. Additionally, they've created

Re: Blackduck Software and IP

2009-01-15 Thread Dan Jenkins
Paul Lussier wrote: BlackDuck (i.e. specifically my friend) has spent months painstakingly researching each and every package for Debian (and probably RH, others) and created a database correlating versions with packages with licenses, etc. Additionally, they've created checksums of

Ubuntu NH Remix 9.04

2009-01-15 Thread Arc Riley
Hey Everyone The Ubuntu NH LoCo is putting together a locally themed Ubuntu remix CD for the 9.04 release this April. The CD will be locally themed with it's own artwork pack and links/integration with local/state resources (ie, NH law search in Firefox/Deskbar, book search via regional library