Re: Re: broke package management (warning long)

2011-02-13 Thread Lori Nagel
jastiv@localhost:/var/log$ dpkg -S /lib/modules/2.6.30.7-libre-fshoppe1 dpkg: /lib/modules/2.6.30.7-libre-fshoppe1 not found. then I tried on a file I know was installed by the package manager. jastiv@localhost:/var/log$ dpkg -S /usr/share/gnome/help/gnect/it/figures gnome-games-data: /usr/shar

Re: [gNewSense-users] broke package management (warning long)

2011-02-13 Thread Lori Nagel
> jastiv@localhost:~/Programs$ sudo dpkg --configure -a > [sudo] password for jastiv: > Setting up initramfs-tools (0.85eubuntu36) ... > update-initramfs: deferring update (trigger activated) > > Processing triggers for initramfs-tools ... > update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.30.7-

Re: broke package management (warning long)

2011-02-13 Thread Jeffry Smith
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 1:35 AM, Lori Nagel wrote: > jastiv@localhost:~/Programs$ sudo dpkg --configure -a > [sudo] password for jastiv: > Setting up initramfs-tools (0.85eubuntu36) ... > update-initramfs: deferring update (trigger activated) > > Processing triggers for initramfs-tools ... > updat

Re: Force apt-get to ignore dependencies?

2011-02-13 Thread Joshua Judson Rosen
Benjamin Scott writes: > > On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Joshua Judson Rosen > wrote: > > >   The Debian package downloads and runs an executable installer. > > > d-m.org offered a proper packaging of the installed files. > > > > I'd go for that, but... is that even *legal*? In the USA? > >

Re: broke package management (warning long)

2011-02-13 Thread Chris Linstid
I'm pretty sure that this was broken before you issued your first listed apt-get install command. It looks like you have a kernel package registered as installed, but one of the directories it installed, /lib/modules/2.6.30.7-libre-fshoppe1, is now gone. You should be able to track down the package

broke package management (warning long)

2011-02-13 Thread Lori Nagel
For anyone interested in how I broke my package management in gNewSense (a ubuntu derivative) read on the terminal commands that I have tried. I still do not understand what I did that led to it not working anymore. jastiv@localhost:~/Programs$ sudo apt-get install gtk-devel [sudo] password for

Re: I hate apt-get

2011-02-13 Thread Tom Buskey
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Ken D'Ambrosio wrote: > On Sun, February 13, 2011 11:06 am, Jeffry Smith wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Lori Nagel wrote: > > > >> I hate apt-get stuff. > > > I guess the bottom line is, ain't no package management system that's > perfect (though

Re: I hate apt-get

2011-02-13 Thread Ken D'Ambrosio
On Sun, February 13, 2011 11:06 am, Jeffry Smith wrote: > On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Lori Nagel wrote: > >> I hate apt-get stuff. >[T]he only way I've found to hose up apt-get or aptitude (which > does a better job of resolving conflicts) is to use dpkg > --force-(insert option here). I wil

Re: Force apt-get to ignore dependencies?

2011-02-13 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Joshua Judson Rosen wrote: >>   The Debian package downloads and runs an executable installer. >> d-m.org offered a proper packaging of the installed files. > > I'd go for that, but... is that even *legal*? In the USA? IANAL, but I believe that's an open questi

Re: Force apt-get to ignore dependencies?

2011-02-13 Thread Joshua Judson Rosen
Benjamin Scott writes: > > On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Joshua Judson Rosen > wrote: > > I don't even understand how/why the word "conveniently" is supposed > > to apply, here--how do you, as an end user, even see any difference? > > The Debian package downloads and runs an executable ins

Re: I hate apt-get

2011-02-13 Thread Jeffry Smith
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Lori Nagel wrote: > I hate apt-get stuff.  I don't know what kernel you have.  I assume you > probably > > are not using the libre-fshoppe kernel or something since you are installing > proprietary software. > > I want to say go back to a red hat (rpm)  based dist

Re: I hate apt-get

2011-02-13 Thread Joseph Smith
On 02/12/2011 11:22 PM, Lori Nagel wrote: > I hate apt-get stuff. I don't know what kernel you have. I assume you > probably > > are not using the libre-fshoppe kernel or something since you are installing > proprietary software. > > I want to say go back to a red hat (rpm) based distro. honest

Re: Force apt-get to ignore dependencies?

2011-02-13 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Benjamin Scott wrote: >  (1) Updates work automatically, like every other managed package on > the system. P.S.: Given Flash's history of frequent security vulnerabilities and consequence fix releases, this is pretty significant. -- Ben

Re: Force apt-get to ignore dependencies?

2011-02-13 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Joshua Judson Rosen wrote: > I don't even understand how/why the word "conveniently" is supposed > to apply, here--how do you, as an end user, even see any difference? The Debian package downloads and runs an executable installer. d-m.org offered a proper packa

Re: Force apt-get to ignore dependencies?

2011-02-13 Thread Joshua Judson Rosen
Benjamin Scott writes: > > On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 7:44 PM, Alan Johnson wrote: > > If you don't want to fish through the repos, you will likely find it in > > /var/cache/apt/archives/ > > Alas, no. apt-get won't even download the package because it thinks > there are unsolved dependencies.

Re: Force apt-get to ignore dependencies?

2011-02-13 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Tom Buskey wrote: > It's nice/sad to see Debian getting the symptoms of RPM hell that people > always bring up. Debian -- or rather, dpkg/APT -- has always had the exact same behavior as RPM/YUM, it's just Debian bigots (who crawl out of the woodwork whenever pa

Re: Force apt-get to ignore dependencies?

2011-02-13 Thread Joshua Judson Rosen
Benjamin Scott writes: > > On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 11:30 PM, Joshua Judson Rosen > wrote: > > What's wrong with the `flashplugin-nonfree' package that Debian has > > in lenny-backports? > > On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Benjamin Scott wrote: > > They conveniently kept a > > current release p

Re: Force apt-get to ignore dependencies?

2011-02-13 Thread Michael ODonnell
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Re: Force apt-get to ignore dependencies?

2011-02-13 Thread Michael ODonnell
>> If you don't want to fish through the repos, you will likely find it in >> /var/cache/apt/archives/ > > Alas, no. apt-get won't even download the package because it thinks >there are unsolved dependencies. You should be able to pull an inventory from any repo mentioned in your /etc/apt/sour

Re: Force apt-get to ignore dependencies?

2011-02-13 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Jon 'maddog' Hall wrote: >> after a unfortunate accident involving a package manager, a liquid >> lunch, and a pair of rubber bands > > I would love to hear more about this at the upcoming ManchLUG meeting. > I knew there was a reason for avoiding rubber bands.

Re: I hate apt-get

2011-02-13 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 11:22 PM, Lori Nagel wrote: > (unlike rpm distros where you could just compile it from source as long > as you don't need a package for the program installed) Source packages exist in dpkg/APT land as well. -- Ben ___ gnhlug-d

Re: Force apt-get to ignore dependencies?

2011-02-13 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
>after a unfortunate accident involving a package manager, a liquid >lunch, and a pair of rubber bands I would love to hear more about this at the upcoming ManchLUG meeting. I knew there was a reason for avoiding rubber bands. md ___ gnhlug-discuss mai

Re: Force apt-get to ignore dependencies?

2011-02-13 Thread Tom Buskey
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Benjamin Scott wrote: > On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 7:44 PM, Alan Johnson wrote: > > If you don't want to fish through the repos, you will likely find it in > > /var/cache/apt/archives/ > > Alas, no. apt-get won't even download the package because it thinks > there

Re: Force apt-get to ignore dependencies?

2011-02-13 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 8:22 PM, Roger H. Goun wrote: > Is the source package available? If so, you could remove the errant > dependencies from the control file and rebuild the .deb. The reason I liked d-m.org's packaging of Flash was that it gave me a proper package that was maintained at curr

Re: Force apt-get to ignore dependencies?

2011-02-13 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 7:44 PM, Alan Johnson wrote: > If you don't want to fish through the repos, you will likely find it in > /var/cache/apt/archives/ Alas, no. apt-get won't even download the package because it thinks there are unsolved dependencies. -- Ben ___

Re: Force apt-get to ignore dependencies?

2011-02-13 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 11:30 PM, Joshua Judson Rosen wrote: > What's wrong with the `flashplugin-nonfree' package that Debian has > in lenny-backports? On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Benjamin Scott wrote: > They conveniently kept a > current release packaged in a "real" Debian package, not th