[GNHLUG] [DLSLUG-Announce] DLSLUG Monthly Meeting 2012-04-05

2012-04-05 Thread Lloyd Kvam
Next Meeting Thursday Apr 5, 2012 A program of nifties and chat Dartmouth College Carson 060 5:30 Pre-meeting dinner at Everything But Anchovies. That's a pizza joint on Allen Street by the Dartmouth Bookstore. RSVP and bring cash. 7:00 Sign-in, networking

EMACS - enabling at spi2 support

2012-04-05 Thread Susan Cragin
Does anyone know how to enable at-spi2 support in emacs? My understanding is that it doesn't automatically kick in when you start EMACS, but that there is a module you can load, and that the module is included with the program or available on the debian / ubuntu packaging. So far I've

Re: EMACS - enabling at spi2 support

2012-04-05 Thread Marc Nozell (m...@nozell.com)
I don't know anything about at-spi2, but... The 'apropos' command within emacs is useful for poking around as is the info manuals (C-h i). You won't see any el files unless you install emacs32-el and you don't need that unless you are curious. The compiled versions will on your system, so look

Am I 32-bit, or 64-bit?

2012-04-05 Thread Ken D'Ambrosio
Okay, because I think that Ubuntu 10.10 with Compiz, the cube, wobbly windows and Gnome 2.x is the epitome of the Linux experience, I've given up on more recent stuff, and installed 10.10 -- 32-bit -- on my laptop. But I'm a total btrfs whore, so I installed that (aside from my /boot partition).

Re: EMACS - enabling at spi2 support

2012-04-05 Thread Kevin D. Clark
Susan Cragin writes: Does anyone know how to enable at-spi2 support in emacs? Obviously, I think that you are smart enough to find atspi.el here: http://delysid.org/atspi.el ...and of course the comments in the elisp code list some dependencies. After you'll pulled down everything and

Re: Am I 32-bit, or 64-bit?

2012-04-05 Thread Michael ODonnell
It'd take some pretty bizarre build errors to generate a kernel that describes itself as x86_64 when it isn't. Therefore, (assuming you're really running in the filesystem that your x86 system was based on) what's likely happening is that the exec() machinery that allows mixed use of x86 and

Re: Am I 32-bit, or 64-bit?

2012-04-05 Thread Brian St. Pierre
On 04/05/2012 09:20 AM, Ken D'Ambrosio wrote: But... i386 seems to be missing as a possible architecture. The closest I could find was x86. But this concerned me, because x86_64's bzImage is a soft link to x86's. Anyway, What the hell, I thought, and compiled it. Installed it. Booted

Re: Am I 32-bit, or 64-bit?

2012-04-05 Thread Ken D'Ambrosio
Brian: I'm gonna pull the whole repo. I really like btrfs, and anything pre-10.10 isn't recent enough to support it for an installation. And I ain't doing 12.04 because, well, it ain't the epitome of the Linux user experience. ;-) On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 10:29:23 -0400 Michael ODonnell

Re: Am I 32-bit, or 64-bit?

2012-04-05 Thread Tom Buskey
I've been 64bit forawhile. What does 32bit do that 64 won't? Besides browser plugins, though that's gotten beter too. I installed 11.10 and then installed lxde and lubuntu over it so I didn't have to learn Unity. There is also xubuntu. In my case I was debian 6.0x on the server and wanted a

Re: Am I 32-bit, or 64-bit?

2012-04-05 Thread Joshua Judson Rosen
Brian St. Pierre br...@bstpierre.org writes: On 04/05/2012 09:20 AM, Ken D'Ambrosio wrote: But... i386 seems to be missing as a possible architecture. The closest I could find was x86. But this concerned me, because x86_64's bzImage is a soft link to x86's. Anyway, What the hell, I

Re: Am I 32-bit, or 64-bit?

2012-04-05 Thread Joshua Judson Rosen
Ken D'Ambrosio k...@jots.org writes: Brian: I'm gonna pull the whole repo. I really like btrfs, and anything pre-10.10 isn't recent enough to support it for an installation. And I ain't doing 12.04 because, well, it ain't the epitome of the Linux user experience. ;-) Ken, Have you

Re: Am I 32-bit, or 64-bit?

2012-04-05 Thread Michael ODonnell
On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 10:29:23 -0400 Michael ODonnell michael.odonn...@comcast.net wrote BTW, for recent kernel sources I think the value you wanted to use for ARCH is i686 rather than i386, even though the latter may be what the arch command reports. Well... here's my /usr/src/linux/arch

Re: Am I 32-bit, or 64-bit?

2012-04-05 Thread Ken D'Ambrosio
On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 12:40:35 -0400 Joshua Judson Rosen roz...@geekspace.com wrote Have you considered upgrading to Debian 6.0/Squeeze? It really sounds more like what you want...: http://www.debian.org/News/2011/20110205a I use the same Compiz/GNOME setup as you're describing. I don't

Re: Am I 32-bit, or 64-bit?

2012-04-05 Thread Michael ODonnell
What does 32bit do that 64 won't? Besides browser plugins, though that's gotten beter too. Lack of 64bit browser plugins (particularly Flash) is a big deal for some. Adobe's official stance on the matter has been all over the map (I don't know whether their problem is technical or

Re: Am I 32-bit, or 64-bit?

2012-04-05 Thread Ken D'Ambrosio
On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 13:01:02 -0400 Michael ODonnell Well... here's my /usr/src/linux/arch directory: [...] avr32 frvKconfig mipspowerpc sparc x86 Wooops! dainbramage... I meant to say that my arch command reports i686 but (as you've indicated) that's not one of

Re: Am I 32-bit, or 64-bit?

2012-04-05 Thread Michael ODonnell
but they've heavily favored the 32bit version and seem either unable or unwilling to produce and support a stable 64bit plugin. I meant to say ...to *consistently* produce... In fairness, the 64bit Flash plugin I have running with Firefox right now has actually been quite stable, especially

Re: Am I 32-bit, or 64-bit?

2012-04-05 Thread michael miller
The '60s vintage CDC machines like the 3600 6500 used 48 bit OSs. Mike Miller Thu, 2012-04-05 at 12:25 -0400, Joshua Judson Rosen wrote: Brian St. Pierre br...@bstpierre.org writes: On 04/05/2012 09:20 AM, Ken D'Ambrosio wrote: But... i386 seems to be missing as a possible

Re: Am I 32-bit, or 64-bit?

2012-04-05 Thread Shawn O'Shea
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Michael ODonnell michael.odonn...@comcast.net wrote: The most recent announcement from them that I'm aware of is that they (once again) plan to abandon the 64bit version altogether. They're actually only providing limited security fix releases of Flash

Re: Am I 32-bit, or 64-bit?

2012-04-05 Thread Michael ODonnell
In the meantime... is there any possible downside of having a 64-bit kernel in a 32-bit userspace? Everything -- drivers, camera, apps -- seems just ducky. I've seen instances where 32bit apps and libraries disagreed with some 64bit drivers about the layout of the data structures that get

Re: Am I 32-bit, or 64-bit?

2012-04-05 Thread Joshua Judson Rosen
Ken D'Ambrosio k...@jots.org writes: On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 12:40:35 -0400 Joshua Judson Rosen roz...@geekspace.com wrote Have you considered upgrading to Debian 6.0/Squeeze? It really sounds more like what you want...: http://www.debian.org/News/2011/20110205a I use the same

Re: Am I 32-bit, or 64-bit?

2012-04-05 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 04/05/2012 02:39 PM, Michael ODonnell wrote: In the meantime... is there any possible downside of having a 64-bit kernel in a 32-bit userspace? Everything -- drivers, camera, apps -- seems just ducky. I've seen instances where 32bit apps and libraries disagreed with some 64bit drivers

Re: Am I 32-bit, or 64-bit?

2012-04-05 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Joshua Judson Rosen roz...@geekspace.com wrote: You think you're joking, but it worked for ATM:    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asynchronous_Transfer_Mode ATM didn't work for ATM. -- Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing

Re: Am I 32-bit, or 64-bit?

2012-04-05 Thread Michael ODonnell
I have seen that in 64-bit Linux, 32-bit processes tend to execute a bit faster. I've seen a number of cases where 32-bit apps run faster than their 64-bit version, but I've also seen 64-bit apps run faster than their 32-bit versions. The 1g/3g memory split I mentioned allowed the kernel

Re: Am I 32-bit, or 64-bit?

2012-04-05 Thread Joshua Judson Rosen
Ben Scott dragonh...@gmail.com writes: On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Joshua Judson Rosen roz...@geekspace.com wrote: You think you're joking, but it worked for ATM:    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asynchronous_Transfer_Mode ATM didn't work for ATM. I do note that it's the only