Re: Authentication on the Internet (bogus emails looking for money)

2010-04-27 Thread Lloyd Kvam
On Tue, 2010-04-27 at 16:22 -0400, Benjamin Scott wrote: If you're still using a passWORD on today's Internet, you're already in a very high risk category. Using an English word for a password is supposed to be roughly equivalent to using 12 bit encryption or something like that. I

Re: Authentication on the Internet (bogus emails looking for money)

2010-04-27 Thread Alan Johnson
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Lloyd Kvam lk...@venix.com wrote: Do you think it is hopeless trying to educate users to import a certificate and protect it with a pass phrase? Yes, see #5: http://www.ranum.com/security/computer_security/editorials/dumb/ However, that's not to say you can't

Re: Authentication on the Internet (bogus emails looking for money)

2010-04-27 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Lloyd Kvam lk...@venix.com wrote: Has anyone here tried to use certificates or public-keys to control access? Yes. A few of our customers at $WORK do this. (Of course, they usually email us the private key without any transport protection, but hey, you

Re: Authentication on the Internet (bogus emails looking for money)

2010-04-27 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Alan Johnson a...@datdec.com wrote: Personally, I like the open id concept.  Assuming you have a secure provider, and a secure password/cert with them ... So, it fails on both counts, then. HHOS. Large-scale SSO systems scare me because if the SSO host is