Re: Brother, can you spare a couple of SCSI SCA disks?

2007-10-31 Thread Chris
On 10/30/07, mike ledoux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 05:46:11PM -0400, mike ledoux wrote: On Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 04:17:07PM -0400, Ben Scott wrote: If somebody wants to donate sweet new 1U server with dual 500 GB SATA disks, that's fine too ;-) Not new, and

Re: Brother, can you spare a couple of SCSI SCA disks?

2007-10-31 Thread Drew Van Zandt
I'd be interested in one if the LUG doesn't need 'em. --DTVZ ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/

Re: Brother, can you spare a couple of SCSI SCA disks?

2007-10-23 Thread Drew Van Zandt
Does it have to be particularly fast, and are there USB connections available? If the answers are no and yes respectively... I have a 1U cable management thing that would probably fit a couple of external USB drive enclosures fairly well, and would let you hide cables pretty well too. I'm sure

Re: Brother, can you spare a couple of SCSI SCA disks?

2007-10-23 Thread Paul Lussier
Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Me too./AOL Heck, having a case makes it a high-budget item. What about the ever-popular bare disk drive sitting on a table design? :) A table? You could afford a table? Geez, damn rich folks! My drives are usually hanging out of the case by the SCSI

Re: Brother, can you spare a couple of SCSI SCA disks?

2007-10-23 Thread Jarod Wilson
On Tuesday 23 October 2007 08:40:32 am Drew Van Zandt wrote: Does it have to be particularly fast, and are there USB connections available? If the answers are no and yes respectively... I have a 1U cable management thing that would probably fit a couple of external USB drive enclosures

Re: Brother, can you spare a couple of SCSI SCA disks?

2007-10-23 Thread Henry Hall
Jarod Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 23 October 2007 08:40:32 am Drew Van Zandt wrote: Does it have to be particularly fast, and are there USB connections available? If the answers are no and yes respectively... I have a 1U cable management thing that would probably fit a couple of external USB

Brother, can you spare a couple of SCSI SCA disks?

2007-10-22 Thread Ben Scott
Hello, world! GNHLUG has an Internet server (it runs this list, amongst other things). It has a pair of 18 GB disks (mirrored). That is kind of small, by today's standards -- especially if we want to start doing things like hosting videos of meetings. It was pointed out that we might have

Re: Brother, can you spare a couple of SCSI SCA disks?

2007-10-22 Thread Star
The one wrinkle is that they must be 3.5-inch, 1/3-height, SCSI, 80-pin SCA (single connector attachment) disks. That's all that will fit the 1U server we have. I have a pair of Seagate 36g that I believe fit the bill here, though their size is also nuthin' to write home about... --

Re: Brother, can you spare a couple of SCSI SCA disks?

2007-10-22 Thread Ben Scott
On 10/22/07, Star [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The one wrinkle is that they must be 3.5-inch, 1/3-height, SCSI, I have a pair of Seagate 36g that I believe fit the bill here, though their size is also nuthin' to write home about... That would still be twice what we have now. So if you're

Re: Brother, can you spare a couple of SCSI SCA disks?

2007-10-22 Thread Star
That would still be twice what we have now. So if you're willing to part with them for a price we can afford (i.e., free), that would be *sweet*. I'd be willing to let 'em go for Fifty Nothings apiece, me thinks... I'll double-check 'em tonight to make sure that they're the correct

Re: Brother, can you spare a couple of SCSI SCA disks?

2007-10-22 Thread Tom Buskey
On 10/22/07, Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/22/07, Star [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The one wrinkle is that they must be 3.5-inch, 1/3-height, SCSI, What kind of hardware are these? Linux x86? SCA SCSI is kind of rare on x86 and bang/buck is low. If it's an option, how about a

Re: Brother, can you spare a couple of SCSI SCA disks?

2007-10-22 Thread Ben Scott
On 10/22/07, Tom Buskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What kind of hardware are these? Linux x86? Linux x86. Actually, the hardware is x86 no matter what OS is running on it. ;-) Gory details are available: http://wiki.gnhlug.org/twiki2/bin/view/Organizational/ServerHardware SCA SCSI is

Re: Brother, can you spare a couple of SCSI SCA disks?

2007-10-22 Thread Tom Buskey
On 10/22/07, Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SCA SCSI is kind of rare on x86 ... If you say so. I've been getting SCA on most of my x86 servers for something close to a decade now. :) I suppose if you compare vs the entire population of x86 boxes, including $200 Wal-Mart specials,

Re: Brother, can you spare a couple of SCSI SCA disks?

2007-10-22 Thread Ben Scott
On 10/22/07, Tom Buskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only place I'd seen SCA is on Sun boxes Yah, we pee cee weenies have SCA too. ;-) Needs to be rack mounted then. Needs is a strong word, but MV Communications has been generously hosting us for free, and the fact that it only takes up

Re: Brother, can you spare a couple of SCSI SCA disks?

2007-10-22 Thread Brian
Hmm, I always thought it was power, not space. Datacenter space varies wildly, but use $20/sqft/mo. A typical cabinet will take about 17sqft on average (that's not actual footprint, but allowing for aisleways, etc). So, $240/mo for the space. A 42U cabinet will generally hold about 35U of

Re: Brother, can you spare a couple of SCSI SCA disks?

2007-10-22 Thread Ben Scott
On 10/22/07, Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm, I always thought it was power, not space. many != all != most -- Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/

Re: Brother, can you spare a couple of SCSI SCA disks?

2007-10-22 Thread Tom Buskey
On 10/22/07, Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/22/07, Tom Buskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only place I'd seen SCA is on Sun boxes Yah, we pee cee weenies have SCA too. ;-) As I should have said, I haven't looked into enough PCs :-) Needs to be rack mounted then. Needs is

Re: Brother, can you spare a couple of SCSI SCA disks?

2007-10-22 Thread Brian
OK. I've never seen a single datacenter where you were paying for space above anything else. Even if that's the unit of measure being sold. On Oct 22, 2007, at 5:08 PM, Ben Scott wrote: On 10/22/07, Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm, I always thought it was power, not space. many !=

Re: Brother, can you spare a couple of SCSI SCA disks?

2007-10-22 Thread Ben Scott
On 10/22/07, Tom Buskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Needs to look fairly decent and not take up lots of space. Pretty much. Well, really, needs to not take lots of space, power, or bandwidth. SATA is inherently hot plug. 2) power off the drive case Just to be a wise-ass: In the above,

Re: Brother, can you spare a couple of SCSI SCA disks?

2007-10-22 Thread mike ledoux
On Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 04:17:07PM -0400, Ben Scott wrote: If somebody wants to donate sweet new 1U server with dual 500 GB SATA disks, that's fine too ;-) Not new, and not really all that sweet, but I have a couple of old (PIII-era) 1U servers that I'd be willing to donate to the cause.

Re: Brother, can you spare a couple of SCSI SCA disks?

2007-10-22 Thread Tom Buskey
On 10/22/07, Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/22/07, Tom Buskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Needs to look fairly decent and not take up lots of space. Pretty much. Well, really, needs to not take lots of space, power, or bandwidth. SATA is inherently hot plug. 2) power off

Re: Brother, can you spare a couple of SCSI SCA disks?

2007-10-22 Thread Star
Bugger! My drives are not the 80-pin connectors :( Anyone else? -- ~ * ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/

Re: Brother, can you spare a couple of SCSI SCA disks?

2007-10-22 Thread Ben Scott
On 10/22/07, Tom Buskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2) power off the drive case Just to be a wise-ass: In the above, there's a small wrinkle in your hot plug scenario... ;-) Maybe I'm using the term wrong. What I mean is you can plug the SATA drive into the system while the system is