On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 9:30 PM, Jon 'maddog' Hall mad...@li.org wrote:
I've already heard of people running an emulator on
top of an emulator inside of a VM solely to keep some old application
alive.
One or two years ago I was at a small technical college someplace and
the professors
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 9:21 PM, Benjamin Scott dragonh...@gmail.com wrote:
Vernor Vinge (of technological singularity fame), in his fiction
novel /A Deepness In The Sky/, posited the job role of software
archaeologist. Given enough time (say, 100s or 1000s of years),
we're going to get to
Because they thought they wouldn't have to find a new solution to
replace the old. And the new one won't last as long.
A very Unix Philosophy type of answer.
AND because the current solution did everything they wanted it to do
(run the payroll)...another Unix-like reason.
md
On 03/07/2010 11:01 AM, Jon 'maddog' Hall wrote:
o every hardware support contract received a letter
o every software support contract received a letter
There are real advantages to knowing who is using your software. The
Fedora people have excellent academic debates about using software
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Jon 'maddog' Hall mad...@li.org wrote:
In any statistical analysis there is the answer, then the statistical
range and deviations, then the probability that the answer and
statistical range and deviations are accurate ...
... which is more commonly stated as
Free Software doesn't mean it comes without costs, just the costs are
different than a license fee (and a support fee, and an upgrade fee,
and...). If nobody is willing to invest any effort in the stuff they
use, they shouldn't be surprised when it disappears.
Playing devil's advocate again, if
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Jon 'maddog' Hall mad...@li.org wrote:
I thought that this project added to DECnet's life, and that
DEC/Compaq/HP would have to be crazy to object.
...
http://www.csamuel.org/2010/02/19/decnet-now-orphaned-in-the-linux-kernel-for-2-6-33
That seems more like it
Ben said this: ... trying to get
everyone's bridges and routers configured to properly support IPX,
NetBEUI, AppleTalk, DECnet, etc., etc., etc. My apologies to maddog
and other ex-DECers, but I say good riddance.
Being of Ancient Daze myself, and a former DECoid, I well remember having to
Ben,
That seems more like it was due to a total lack of interest. Could
it simply be that most everyone has moved to Internet Protocol now?
I agree to a point that the current orphaning of the code in the kernel
is probably due to a total lack of interest, and that there is a good
possibility
Ben,
One other comment:
I think widespread adoption of IP has tended to eliminate less-used
network transports. Why go with something weird, proprietary, and
expensive when you could go with what everybody is using, for free?
I agree. But I also remember that in 1984 DEC was still waiting for
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Jon 'maddog' Hall mad...@li.org wrote:
But in walking back to my house from breakfast today, it occurred to me
that the average user of DECnet Linux probably does not read the
DECnet Linux mailing lists.
You think neither of them are subscribed? ;-)
I've already heard of people running an emulator on
top of an emulator inside of a VM solely to keep some old application
alive.
One or two years ago I was at a small technical college someplace and
the professors (knowing I had worked for DEC) offered to show me an
ancient PDP-11 running RSX-11
Oh, does THAT bring back the golden oldie memories! My first-ever paid IT
gig was working with, yes, a PDP-11 running RSX-11 (for CAD/CAM engineering
apps) and a microVAX running, I think, VAX/VMS 3.5.
Then, off to DEC itself, in Marlborough and The Mill.
No Linux for me until twelve years
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