Re: Handhelds/PDAs - Palm vs Zaurus vs others - Opinions? Experiences?

2007-03-26 Thread Ben Scott
And then there are these: Sony VGN-UX380N - http://tinyurl.com/3crnt6 OQO - http://www.oqo.com/ I walked past the Sony on a store display the other day, and spent the next several minutes playing with it. It's a pretty impressive little box. Still too big and heavy to be a PDA, but not by

Re: Handhelds/PDAs - Palm vs Zaurus vs others - Opinions? Experiences?

2007-03-23 Thread mike ledoux
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 09:47:40AM -0400, Paul Lussier wrote: Sacha Chua (Cc'ed on this e-mail) who's since become a good friend of mine, introduced me to my current PDA/PIM device of choice: The Hipster PDA. When they make a version that includes alarm functionality for repeating events and

Re: Handhelds/PDAs - Palm vs Zaurus vs others - Opinions? Experiences?

2007-03-22 Thread Tom Buskey
On 3/21/07, Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/21/07, Tom Buskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you want? A computer you can carry around with you? Or something to carry around w/ your data until you can get to a real computer? Ideally the former, but I'll settle for the latter if

Re: Handhelds/PDAs - Palm vs Zaurus vs others - Opinions? Experiences?

2007-03-22 Thread Jerry Feldman
On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 21:46:52 -0400 Jon 'maddog' Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess it depends on how much it costs and whether it is worth it to you. Look around. If you don't see what you like, buy another one and use that until it is held together with tape, the thumbwheel breaks off,

Re: Handhelds/PDAs - Palm vs Zaurus vs others - Opinions? Experiences?

2007-03-22 Thread Paul Lussier
Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 3/21/07, Brian Chabot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You know... I'd bet there would be a market for low-end PDAs ... There is. They're called cell phones. For me it's called a wife :) -- Seeya, Paul -- Key fingerprint = 1660 FECC 5D21 D286 F853 E808

Re: Handhelds/PDAs - Palm vs Zaurus vs others - Opinions? Experiences?

2007-03-22 Thread Paul Lussier
On 3/21/07, Tom Buskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you want? A computer you can carry around with you? Or something to carry around w/ your data until you can get to a real computer? [...] Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The ability to use it as a handheld -- i.e., *in my

Re: Handhelds/PDAs - Palm vs Zaurus vs others - Opinions? Experiences?

2007-03-22 Thread Bill Freeman
Ben Scott writes: ... Just wait until technology advances to the point where sound and video can be fed directly into human sensory perception. Audio will come first. I predict we will see implanted audio communication devices (phones) within ten years. Implanted hearing aids already

Re: Handhelds/PDAs - Palm vs Zaurus vs others - Opinions? Experiences?

2007-03-22 Thread Jeffry Smith
I'll comment again (although I don't own one yet) - check out the N800 by Nokia (http://www.nokiausa.com/N800). Not a cell phone, but a Linux PDA with built-in WiFi, Skype, Bluetooth, 2 x SD slots, 640x480 color display, 128MB RAM, 256MB flash, web camera, etc. Also an active open-source

Re: Handhelds/PDAs - Palm vs Zaurus vs others - Opinions? Experiences?

2007-03-22 Thread Ben Scott
On 3/22/07, Jeffry Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll comment again (although I don't own one yet) - check out the N800 by Nokia (http://www.nokiausa.com/N800). I did. Very cool looking device. Unfortunately, for my purposes, small as it is, it is still too big. It's more of a handSheld

Re: Handhelds/PDAs - Palm vs Zaurus vs others - Opinions? Experiences?

2007-03-22 Thread Brian Chabot
Jeffry Smith wrote: I'll comment again (although I don't own one yet) - check out the N800 by Nokia (http://www.nokiausa.com/N800). All well and good but Browsing time: up to 3 hours HUH? THREE HOURS?!? Are they %^%%%$[EMAIL PROTECTED] high!?!? That's a limitation not a feature. I

Re: Handhelds/PDAs - Palm vs Zaurus vs others - Opinions? Experiences?

2007-03-22 Thread Ben Scott
On 3/22/07, Brian Chabot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Browsing time: up to 3 hours What's up with PDAs, UMPCs, and even laptops these days and the severe lack of battery life? Partly increased CPU and RAM to run the latest bloatware. Mostly the display backlight and radios. That backlight

Re: Handhelds/PDAs - Palm vs Zaurus vs others - Opinions? Experiences?

2007-03-22 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Mar 22, 2007, at 09:47, Paul Lussier wrote: So, where do you get this wonderful, almost too-good-to-be-true device? Insert time is good, delete time is good, updates can be good, unless I/O is blocked. Search can be O(n), unless the search tool is buggy, then it might fail. But

Re: Handhelds/PDAs - Palm vs Zaurus vs others - Opinions? Experiences?

2007-03-22 Thread Ben Scott
On 3/22/07, Bill McGonigle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But synchronization and garbage collection are a bitch! And the cut-and-paste implementation is even worse than X11's. -- One day I feel I'm ahead of the wheel / And the next it's rolling over me

Re: Handhelds/PDAs - Palm vs Zaurus vs others - Opinions? Experiences?

2007-03-22 Thread Paul Lussier
Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 3/22/07, Bill McGonigle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But synchronization and garbage collection are a bitch! And the cut-and-paste implementation is even worse than X11's. Well, no, they have a solution to that, carbon-paper :) Then it's more like a

Re: Handhelds/PDAs - Palm vs Zaurus vs others - Opinions? Experiences?

2007-03-21 Thread Travis Roy
That's not all I'm getting at (though it is part of it). I object to the whole attitude wireless carriers have. They want everything locked in to them, owned by them, controlled by them. Ideally, they want to charge me every time I press a button, take a picture, or think. It's Microsoft

Re: Handhelds/PDAs - Palm vs Zaurus vs others - Opinions? Experiences?

2007-03-21 Thread Ben Scott
On 3/21/07, Travis Roy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, then what cell phone carrier are you currently using that doesn't do that? I'm using the cell phone carrier that work uses and pays for (Nextel), because they want me to have a cell phone. It has a just make phone calls plan, and a phone

Re: Handhelds/PDAs - Palm vs Zaurus vs others - Opinions? Experiences?

2007-03-21 Thread Jerry Feldman
I've had a Palm since my days at Digital. I currently have a Treo 650 with GPS software so I can't get lost on my way to work or to the Galley Diner in South Boston. My only complaint is that with the Mapopolis software when I receive a cal while in GPS mode, the mapping software sometimes

Re: Handhelds/PDAs - Palm vs Zaurus vs others - Opinions? Experiences?

2007-03-21 Thread Tom Buskey
On 3/20/07, Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, world! So, I'm thinking about getting a new handheld computer (AKA PDA), before the one I have now finishes crumbling into dust. (For purposes of this discussion, let's assume my handheld and my mobile phone will be two different

Re: Handhelds/PDAs - Palm vs Zaurus vs others - Opinions? Experiences?

2007-03-21 Thread Brian Chabot
Not too long ago, I grabbed a cheap Handspring Visor off eBay (about $35 with shipping). Linux compatible (mostly), long battery life, AAA batteries, and great PIM. Add a CF adapter and it's actually useful as a text reader. Works out find for me. Now if those ePaper thingies had lower prices,

Re: Handhelds/PDAs - Palm vs Zaurus vs others - Opinions? Experiences?

2007-03-21 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
On Wed, 2007-03-21 at 16:38 -0400, Brian Chabot wrote: Not too long ago, I grabbed a cheap Handspring Visor off eBay (about $35 with shipping). Linux compatible (mostly), long battery life, AAA batteries, and great PIM. Add a CF adapter and it's actually useful as a text reader. Works

Re: Handhelds/PDAs - Palm vs Zaurus vs others - Opinions? Experiences?

2007-03-21 Thread Brian Chabot
Jon 'maddog' Hall wrote: On Wed, 2007-03-21 at 16:38 -0400, Brian Chabot wrote: Not too long ago, I grabbed a cheap Handspring Visor I bought a Palm m130 at the last Hosstraders. You know... I'd bet there would be a market for low-end PDAs if we could find a cheap way to build them and a way

Re: Handhelds/PDAs - Palm vs Zaurus vs others - Opinions? Experiences?

2007-03-21 Thread Ben Scott
On 3/21/07, Tom Buskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you want? A computer you can carry around with you? Or something to carry around w/ your data until you can get to a real computer? Ideally the former, but I'll settle for the latter if that's the only way to get good handheld

Re: Handhelds/PDAs - Palm vs Zaurus vs others - Opinions? Experiences?

2007-03-21 Thread Paul Lussier
Brian Chabot [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Any hardware engineers out there want to take a stab at a mass-producible, cheap PDA? First there was OLTPC, now there will be OPDAPG (One PDA Per Geek). Or would it be 2 or 3 or 4 PDA/Geek ? -- Seeya, Paul -- Key fingerprint = 1660 FECC 5D21 D286 F853

Re: Handhelds/PDAs - Palm vs Zaurus vs others - Opinions? Experiences?

2007-03-21 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Mar 20, 2007, at 18:30, Ben Scott wrote: But wireless carriers universally see any cell phone, and all the data on it, as *their* property. They don't sell you a phone, they let you use their phone, maybe, for a little while, so long as you keep up on your protection payments. You can use

Re: Handhelds/PDAs - Palm vs Zaurus vs others - Opinions? Experiences?

2007-03-21 Thread Ben Scott
On 3/21/07, Bill McGonigle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... what NexTel has ... Since you bring it up: Nextel uses iDEN (which is incompatible with everything else, of course). I think Nextel is the only carrier in the US to use iDEN. iDEN was designed by Motorola as a wide-area trunked radio

Re: Handhelds/PDAs - Palm vs Zaurus vs others - Opinions? Experiences?

2007-03-20 Thread Jeffry Smith
On 3/21/07, Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, world! So, I'm thinking about getting a new handheld computer (AKA PDA), before the one I have now finishes crumbling into dust. (For purposes of this discussion, let's assume my handheld and my mobile phone will be two different devices.)

Re: Handhelds/PDAs - Palm vs Zaurus vs others - Opinions? Experiences?

2007-03-20 Thread Travis Roy
So, I'm thinking about getting a new handheld computer (AKA PDA), before the one I have now finishes crumbling into dust. (For purposes of this discussion, let's assume my handheld and my mobile phone will be two different devices.) I'd like to hear people's opinions and experiences on

Re: Handhelds/PDAs - Palm vs Zaurus vs others - Opinions? Experiences?

2007-03-20 Thread mike ledoux
On Tue, Mar 20, 2007 at 05:11:00PM -0400, Ben Scott wrote: I'm especially interested in the Sharp Zaurus. I understand that, while it's nominally not sold in the US, it's pretty easy to find vendors importing it, and that the manufacturer support picture is pretty good (for the immediate

Re: Handhelds/PDAs - Palm vs Zaurus vs others - Opinions? Experiences?

2007-03-20 Thread Ben Scott
On 3/20/07, Travis Roy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (For purposes of this discussion, let's assume my handheld and my mobile phone will be two different devices.) I would seriously consider combining the two devices. I find it very helpful. ~sigh~ Yes, yes. That's the way it would be, in an

Re: Handhelds/PDAs - Palm vs Zaurus vs others - Opinions? Experiences?

2007-03-20 Thread brk
On Mar 20, 2007, at 6:30 PM, Ben Scott wrote: ~sigh~ Yes, yes. That's the way it would be, in an ideal world. But wireless carriers universally see any cell phone, and all the data on it, as *their* property. They don't sell you a phone, they let you use their phone, maybe, for a little

Re: Handhelds/PDAs - Palm vs Zaurus vs others - Opinions? Experiences?

2007-03-20 Thread Travis Roy
~sigh~ Yes, yes. That's the way it would be, in an ideal world. But wireless carriers universally see any cell phone, and all the data on it, as *their* property. They don't sell you a phone, they let you use their phone, maybe, for a little while, so long as you keep up on your

Re: Handhelds/PDAs - Palm vs Zaurus vs others - Opinions? Experiences?

2007-03-20 Thread brk
On Mar 20, 2007, at 8:44 PM, Ben Scott wrote: I object to the whole attitude wireless carriers have. So do I, but in the end I have bigger things to worry about. Besides, as soon as Google rolls out their nationwide Wifi, and accompanying phone it won't be such an issue anymore.

Re: Handhelds/PDAs - Palm vs Zaurus vs others - Opinions? Experiences?

2007-03-20 Thread Ben Scott
On 3/20/07, brk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I object to the whole attitude wireless carriers have. So do I, but in the end I have bigger things to worry about. From what I can tell, most people have that attitude. Which, of course, is what lets so many companies get away with such lousy