Re: [NH LoCo] I'm writing an opinion piece for the Concord Monitor -- care to weigh in?

2010-03-03 Thread Bill McGonigle
On 02/24/2010 09:06 PM, Benjamin Scott wrote: If you charge in there like a zealot, you'll hurt the cause, not help it. This was pretty much the strategy last time - get a bill sponsored and try to get it passed mandating it. State IT opposed it and it got marked 'inexpedient to

Re: I'm writing an opinion piece for the Concord Monitor -- care to weigh in?

2010-03-02 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
I have created an opinion piece in my blog at the Linux Pro Magzine site that addresses the actions of the United States Trade Representative in placing Indonesia, Brazil and India on the 301 Watch List because those countries advocate use of FOSS: The link is here:

Re: [NH LoCo] I'm writing an opinion piece for the Concord Monitor -- care to weigh in?

2010-02-26 Thread Joshua Judson Rosen
Jon 'maddog' Hall mad...@li.org writes: Ben, Tom, et. al., Thank you for the kind words. I meant it when I said: I hope I have partially answered your question. There is actually a lot more to this, but I am tired tonight. and I do intend on writing more about itand then

Re: [NH LoCo] I'm writing an opinion piece for the Concord Monitor -- care to weigh in?

2010-02-26 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
The only `issue' I have in reading your response is where you write: Who loses in a true FOSS environment? The investors. Jason, I really do not want to start a discussion of capitalism here, but I do want to answer your question. I will be more careful in the upcoming document addressing

Re: I'm writing an opinion piece for the Concord Monitor -- care to weigh in?

2010-02-25 Thread Tom Buskey
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Jon 'maddog' Hall mad...@li.org wrote: I hope I have partially answered your question. There is actually a lot more to this, but I am tired tonight. Excellent sunopsis as we'd expect from you :-) But remember two things: o FOSS favors the common person

Re: [NH LoCo] I'm writing an opinion piece for the Concord Monitor -- care to weigh in?

2010-02-25 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Jon 'maddog' Hall mad...@li.org wrote: Very simple.  Proprietary software is ... [pages deleted] Bravo! Well said! Very well thought-out and well-written piece. You articulated several things I've long had brewing in my subconscious, and explored some more

Re: I'm writing an opinion piece for the Concord Monitor -- care to weigh in?

2010-02-24 Thread Seth Cohn
Of interest... When using open source makes you an enemy of the state http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2010/feb/23/opensource-intellectual-property On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 7:06 PM, Susan Cragin susancra...@earthlink.net wrote: I'm writing an opinion piece for the Concord Monitor.

Re: I'm writing an opinion piece for the Concord Monitor -- care to weigh in?

2010-02-24 Thread Susan Cragin
http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/3911/125/ Apparently, Canada is an enemy, too. When they put Massachusetts on the list, I'm hiding. -Original Message- From: Seth Cohn sethc...@gnuhampshire.org Of interest... When using open source makes you an enemy of the state

Re: I'm writing an opinion piece for the Concord Monitor -- care to weigh in?

2010-02-24 Thread Joshua Judson Rosen
Seth Cohn sethc...@gnuhampshire.org writes: On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 7:06 PM, Susan Cragin susancra...@earthlink.net wrote: I'm writing an opinion piece for the Concord Monitor. Title:  All NH taxpayer-supported computers and systems should run open-source software. I need examples

Re: I'm writing an opinion piece for the Concord Monitor -- care to weigh in?

2010-02-24 Thread Susan Cragin
Piffle. From that article: I know open source has a tendency to be linked to socialist ideals, but I also think it's an example of the free market in action. The US Department of Defense appears to agree with the author, cf.:

Re: I'm writing an opinion piece for the Concord Monitor -- care to weigh in?

2010-02-24 Thread Jerry Feldman
We need to check to see if the People's Republik of Cambridge is on the list. On 02/24/2010 04:12 PM, Susan Cragin wrote: http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/3911/125/ Apparently, Canada is an enemy, too. When they put Massachusetts on the list, I'm hiding. -Original Message-

Re: I'm writing an opinion piece for the Concord Monitor -- care to weigh in?

2010-02-24 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
Yes, we know that it is crap and we know that FOSS is commercial software, but the enemies of FOSS (and this includes free information) have lots of money, hire lots of lobbyists, who takes lots of people to dinner and whisper things in their ear. It all sounds on the up-and-up. The Business

Re: I'm writing an opinion piece for the Concord Monitor -- care to weigh in?

2010-02-24 Thread Joshua Judson Rosen
Jon 'maddog' Hall mad...@li.org writes: Yes, we know that it is crap and we know that FOSS is commercial software, but the enemies of FOSS (and this includes free information) have lots of money, hire lots of lobbyists, who takes lots of people to dinner and whisper things in their ear. Man.

Re: I'm writing an opinion piece for the Concord Monitor -- care to weigh in?

2010-02-24 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Joshua Judson Rosen roz...@geekspace.com wrote: The US Department of Defense appears to agree with the author [accepting Open Source] Keep in mind that the US DoD is a huge organization -- one of the biggest in human history. Some factions love FOSS and hate

Re: [NH LoCo] I'm writing an opinion piece for the Concord Monitor -- care to weigh in?

2010-02-24 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Susan Cragin susancra...@earthlink.net wrote: ... the National Security Agency, uses Linux and only Linux ... That's flat-out wrong. Heck, their *web site* runs IIS 6.0. With respect, please check your facts before petitioning the NH government. If you

Re: I'm writing an opinion piece for the Concord Monitor -- care to weigh in?

2010-02-24 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
Man. If FOSS is so great, how come *we* don't have all of that money to do all of those things? Very simple. Proprietary software is written for investors by non-users. FOSS, for the most part, is written by the customers for the customers. FOSS is written by the people that have the itch

I'm writing an opinion piece for the Concord Monitor -- care to weigh in?

2010-02-22 Thread Susan Cragin
I'm writing an opinion piece for the Concord Monitor. Title: All NH taxpayer-supported computers and systems should run open-source software. I need examples of municipalities, states, and so on, that have switched to open-source successfully, and what they use. Did you use Drupal to put

Re: [NH LoCo] I'm writing an opinion piece for the Concord Monitor -- care to weigh in?

2010-02-22 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 7:06 PM, Susan Cragin susancra...@earthlink.net wrote: Title:  All NH taxpayer-supported computers and systems should run open-source software. You asked for opinions. My opinion would be that *I* would prefer that stated along the lines of All NH government IT

Re: [NH LoCo] I'm writing an opinion piece for the Concord Monitor -- care to weigh in?

2010-02-22 Thread Benjamin Scott
P.S.: On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Benjamin Scott dragonh...@gmail.com wrote: ... consider Open Source software a via option, to be evaluated in all cases ... s/software a via option/software a viable option/ (I would also recommend using the correct words, something I sometimes have

Re: I'm writing an opinion piece for the Concord Monitor -- care to weigh in?

2010-02-22 Thread Mark McSweeney
, gave a presentation about the LTSP deployment. Hope this helps. Mark From: Susan Cragin susancra...@earthlink.net To: Ubuntu-NH ubuntu-us...@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 19:06:28 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: I'm writing an opinion piece for the Concord Monitor -- care to weigh

Re: I'm writing an opinion piece for the Concord Monitor -- care to weigh in?

2010-02-22 Thread mark
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 7:06 PM, Susan Cragin susancra...@earthlink.netwrote: The Concord Monitor has in the past given my articles good exposure, the state is desperate to cut costs, and this could be a good thing for open-source. The state employs several dozen programmers and the