On 03/05/2010 03:52 PM, Tom Buskey wrote:
In this case, because the ZFS license isn't compatible with the GPL in
the Linux kernel.
And there's no patent grant for re-implementations (you have to use the
CDDL code to get patent grants). Without patent problems, I'm confident
it would have
Hi,
I am doing some consulting about Why Linux is good for cloud
computing (and for that matter Software as a Service (SaaS), which I
consider more or less one and the same).
I am going to start with the fact that Unix systems were designed
(almost) from the beginning to be multi-tasking and
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Jon 'maddog' Hall mad...@li.org wrote:
Any other ideas on the topic of Why Linux for Cloud Computing?
Virtualization?
Any blatant negatives for Linux as a platform?
Too many choices. Once you've chosen linux over other options, you've
still got a ton of
On 03/05/2010 02:03 PM, Brian St. Pierre wrote:
Virtualization?
Yes, and to drive home that point, this is what's being chosen
empirically by the extant service providers. Amazon's EC2 is Xen on
RHEL. I seem to recall that Rackspace also went this route.
And if you don't like Xen on
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Bill McGonigle b...@bfccomputing.comwrote:
On 03/05/2010 02:03 PM, Brian St. Pierre wrote:
Virtualization?
Yes, and to drive home that point, this is what's being chosen
empirically by the extant service providers. Amazon's EC2 is Xen on
RHEL. I seem to
Virtualization?
Well, I did not mention virtualization before, since there are so many
answers for virtualization for different operating systems, but there is
an element of efficiency in virtualization and
Too many choices.
A good point, but I think it is overblown for uber cloud computing
On Fri, March 5, 2010 3:12 pm, Jon 'maddog' Hall wrote:
It has been some time since I have looked at file systems, and
particularly COW file systems, so pardon me if these questions are
naive.
Any traction to ext3cow or using the COW layering capability of the UDB
block driver? Or LVM
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Bill McGonigle b...@bfccomputing.comwrote:
On 03/05/2010 02:45 PM, Tom Buskey wrote:
Samba works well here. ZFS also has a CIFS server built in that does
all the ACLs that Windows needs.
But you still have to boot Windows off of a C: block-device, right?
Tom,
Networking Linux can do vlans, VPN, firewalls in the base install. Its
very flexible in what you allow to be exposed.
AWESOME with the networking mention.
The BSD guys often said in the early days that they had a better
networking stack, but I am fairly sure that Linux has caught up. :-)
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Jon 'maddog' Hall mad...@li.org wrote:
Bill,
ZFS is only on *Solaris and FreeBSD (albeit an old one). Linux
doesn't yet have a stable, consistent COW filesystem. Certainly a
combination of the two is a great win.
It has been some time since I have looked
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Jon 'maddog' Hall mad...@li.org wrote:
So just like I said RIP to Grace Murray Hopper, I now say RIP to
DECnet Linux.
There is still some good stuff happening with VMS, for example if you
are an hp software partner, you can get ssh access to a virtual
machine
Mark,
There is still some good stuff happening with VMS, for example if you
are an hp software partner, you can get ssh access to a virtual
machine running OpenVMS 8.4 EFT.
I did not mean to imply that there was not good stuff happening with
VMSbut VMS is and was not DECnet.
Even when I was
Also Process Software's MultiNET, which we were using circa '98-2000 at one
site here in Vermont.
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Jon 'maddog' Hall mad...@li.org wrote:
Mark,
There is still some good stuff happening with VMS, for example if you
are an hp software partner, you can get ssh
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