Re: OT: Forum legalish question

2006-03-13 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Mar 12, 2006, at 15:27, Ben Scott wrote: Law-breaking is a poor first choice for effecting change. There are other methods which work much better. Law-breaking should always be the *last* choice. The fact that it is sometimes the *only* choice does not change that. The old saying goes

Re: OT: Forum legalish question

2006-03-11 Thread Fred
On Monday 06 March 2006 23:40, Ben Scott wrote: ... I didn't mean that you one has to follow the law (the only thing one *has* to do is die), just that you have to accept it as being the current state of affairs. Reality, and all that. Since you bring it up: I also feel that law-breaking

Re: OT: Forum legalish question

2006-03-11 Thread Jeff Kinz
On Sat, Mar 11, 2006 at 06:55:01AM -0500, Fred wrote: On Monday 06 March 2006 23:40, Ben Scott wrote: Since you bring it up: I also feel that law-breaking is a poor first choice for effecting change,... Tell that to Rosa Parks. Ben said it was a poor first choice. You ignored

Re: OT: Forum legalish question

2006-03-07 Thread Travis Roy
Ben Scott wrote: On 3/3/06, Travis Roy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I was using the uncopywritten logo on my site. *Everything* is covered by copyright (except works by the US *Federal* government). This email I am writing right now is copyright by me, and I don't have to say so to

Re: OT: Forum legalish question

2006-03-07 Thread Randy Edwards
Since you bring it up: I also feel that law-breaking is a poor first choice for effecting change, Quite true, and there's that whole numbers thing... and that a thief is still a thief, even if he steals from another thief. (Fighting back the urge to drag out this OT thread and give

Re: OT: Forum legalish question

2006-03-07 Thread Ben Scott
On 3/7/06, Randy Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and that a thief is still a thief, even if he steals from another thief. (Fighting back the urge to drag out this OT thread and give an RMS-like rant about how copyright infringement is not theft. :-) (Fighting back the urge to drag out

Re: OT: Forum legalish question

2006-03-07 Thread Travis Roy
Ben Scott wrote: On 3/7/06, Randy Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and that a thief is still a thief, even if he steals from another thief. (Fighting back the urge to drag out this OT thread and give an RMS-like rant about how copyright infringement is not theft. :-) (Fighting back

Re: OT: Forum legalish question

2006-03-07 Thread Ben Scott
On 3/7/06, Travis Roy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Theft ... [1913 Webster] While I don't think that paints the complete picture, honor compels me to admit: Touché. :-) -- Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org

Re: OT: Forum legalish question

2006-03-07 Thread Ed Lawson
On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 08:56:01 -0500 Travis Roy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Theft \Theft\ (th[e^]ft), n. [OE. thefte, AS. [thorn]i['e]f[eth]e, [thorn][=y]f[eth]e, [thorn]e['o]f[eth]e. See Thief.] 1. (Law) The act of stealing; specifically, the felonious taking and

Re: OT: Forum legalish question

2006-03-07 Thread K1VP
On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 09:29:27 -0500 Ed Lawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Without taking a position on whether copyright infringement is theft, Just to clarify, all legal issues related to copyrights are controlled by federal law and under federal law the illegal use of copyrighted material is

Re: OT: Forum legalish question

2006-03-07 Thread John Abreau
Ben Scott wrote: *Everything* is covered by copyright (except works by the US *Federal* government). This email I am writing right now is copyright by me, and I don't have to say so to reserve my rights. You don't need to register or do *anything* to get copyright. So you can't just copy

Re: OT: Forum legalish question

2006-03-07 Thread Randy Edwards
I believe it is important to understand that the definition of what constitutes theft in a dictionary is totally irrelevant and just [...] Ed, Ed, Ed. Stop thinking like a lawyer. :-) You know the point of a legal debate in a mailing list is not about logic or even the law, it's

Re: OT: Forum legalish question

2006-03-06 Thread Travis Roy
So he called this other lawyer and put down a $500 retainer. Clearly this is only for letter writting. don't count on it. Well my sister-in-law is a paralegal, and she said the lawfirm is of the fly-by-night kind. The general thought now is that he had to do this, because the district

Re: OT: Forum legalish question

2006-03-06 Thread Fred
On Saturday 04 March 2006 22:05, Michael ODonnell wrote: Even if you are completely blameless and all of your actions have been so completely inside all legal and practical limits that nobody bringing suit against you could possibly prevail, the mere act of filing suit against you causes you

Re: OT: Forum legalish question

2006-03-06 Thread Ben Scott
On 3/3/06, Travis Roy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I was using the uncopywritten logo on my site. *Everything* is covered by copyright (except works by the US *Federal* government). This email I am writing right now is copyright by me, and I don't have to say so to reserve my rights. You

Re: OT: Forum legalish question

2006-03-06 Thread Randy Edwards
While Ben's observations were on the money, I would disagree with one point: You don't have to like this, but you do have to accept it (at least until/unless you can get the law changed). Of course you don't have to accept it! Breaking the law is a time-honored way of changing the

Re: OT: Forum legalish question

2006-03-06 Thread Ben Scott
On 3/6/06, Randy Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You don't have to like this, but you do have to accept it (at least until/unless you can get the law changed). Of course you don't have to accept it! Breaking the law ... I didn't mean that you one has to follow the law (the only thing

Re: OT: Forum legalish question

2006-03-05 Thread Star
There's a couple of groups on Yahoo (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nhlibertarians/ and http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NHPorcupines-announce/) that I'm sure would look at this with Rabid Fascination.With New Hampshire having been chosen as the Free State ( http://www.freestateproject.org) there are

Re: OT: Forum legalish question

2006-03-05 Thread Travis Roy
After talking to some people some interesting things came to light. At one point when Joe said he was going to sue me, I decided to call the district lawyer. I left a message saying that I wanted to talk to them to find out what the complaints were and comply with any law that I may be

Re: OT: Forum legalish question

2006-03-05 Thread elawson
Travis Roy wrote: So he called this other lawyer and put down a $500 retainer. Clearly this is only for letter writting. don't count on it. The general thought now is that he had to do this, because the district lawyer knew he couldn't win any case against, well, basically a bunch of

Re: OT: Forum legalish question

2006-03-04 Thread Jeff Kinz
On Fri, Mar 03, 2006 at 09:18:14PM -0500, Travis Roy wrote: I found out that he managed to get the other board members to approve a retainer to the district lawyer to sue me and other board members for slander and libel. He wants the town to subsidize his suing of you and other board

Re: OT: Forum legalish question

2006-03-04 Thread Travis Roy
One possible response is to apologize when actually presented with a complaint. That may be all it takes to put this issue to bed. Only you know what you have said about this guy so no one else can really know what the possible offenses are here. (Unless you've related everything there really

Re: OT: Forum legalish question

2006-03-04 Thread elawson
Travis Roy wrote: Should get very interesting soon. ___ You might consider the the fact that one of the more famous/wise/respected Supreme Court Justices once said that next to death he feared most a lawsuit. Ed Lawson

Re: OT: Forum legalish question

2006-03-04 Thread Michael ODonnell
Even if you are completely blameless and all of your actions have been so completely inside all legal and practical limits that nobody bringing suit against you could possibly prevail, the mere act of filing suit against you causes you real, measurable harm. It will cost you some combination of

OT: Forum legalish question

2006-03-03 Thread Travis Roy
Some of you on the list know about this, for those that don't here's a quick lowdown. I live in the Emerald Lake Village District in Hillsborough, NH. We have our own seperate board of commissioners. One of them is a real a-hole. The unofficial webiste (www.emeraldlake.org) had a forum. The