RE: OT- Comcast Subscriber Agreement

2003-06-16 Thread brian
On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 13:51, Tilly, Lawrence wrote: > As an aside to this, it's interesting how some cable ISPs are configured > differently than others. I was on attbi for a little over a year, and with > them I had to actually "register" each of my PCs that I wanted to be on the Having worked wi

RE: OT- Comcast Subscriber Agreement

2003-06-16 Thread Tilly, Lawrence
day, June 16, 2003 12:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT- Comcast Subscriber Agreement Greg Kettmann wrote: > I kind of liked the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" method, which someone > mentioned so kind of wish I'd just kept quiet, but I'm sure they're v

Re: OT- Comcast Subscriber Agreement

2003-06-16 Thread Tom Buskey
Greg Kettmann wrote: I kind of liked the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" method, which someone mentioned so kind of wish I'd just kept quiet, but I'm sure they're very aware of all the routers out there. I would assume that their all a dead givaway based on their MAC addresses. Most cable firewall

Re: OT- Comcast Subscriber Agreement

2003-06-16 Thread Greg Kettmann
Interestingly Comcast actually wrote back.  They said:   "Thank you for writing to Comcast. I apologize for any inconvenience that you may be experiencing. For now the information that we have available is that you will be able to use a router on our network. More information will be released

Re: OT- Comcast Subscriber Agreement

2003-06-11 Thread David Long
On Tue, 2003-06-10 at 06:38, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > One of the things I read in attbi.ne.techtalk.general > > is that all a Linux user like me has to do is config > > different IP addrs for the POP, SMTP and NNTP servers, > > reportedly these: > > > > send email (SMTP):smtp.comcast.net

Re: OT- Comcast Subscriber Agreement

2003-06-10 Thread Jerry Feldman
On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 16:22:48 -0400 Jeff Kinz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 06:35:01PM -0400, Michael O'Donnell wrote: > > > > .. > > One of the things I read in attbi.ne.techtalk.general > > is that all a Linux user like me has to do is config > > different IP a

Re: OT- Comcast Subscriber Agreement

2003-06-10 Thread Jeff Kinz
On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 06:35:01PM -0400, Michael O'Donnell wrote: > > .. > One of the things I read in attbi.ne.techtalk.general > is that all a Linux user like me has to do is config > different IP addrs for the POP, SMTP and NNTP servers, > reportedly these: > > send email (SMTP):

Re: OT- Comcast Subscriber Agreement

2003-06-10 Thread Jerry Feldman
On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 15:59:05 -0400 "Travis Roy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Except that all of those things have a nice disclaimer that basically > states that they can change it at any time at any reason to anything > and not tell you, you just have to go look at the agreement online > every onc

RE: OT- Comcast Subscriber Agreement

2003-06-10 Thread Travis Roy
> The only document I ever signed was the Continental Cablevision > document. Somewhere in my archives I may have email from a VP > authorizing an internal network. I could probably use that if Comcast > starts playing hardball but it would be more like, "our agreement > supercedes that, cease and

Re: OT- Comcast Subscriber Agreement

2003-06-10 Thread Erik Price
Andrew W. Gaunt wrote: Well, the farmer awoke to find a nice fattened pig there one Sunday morning. He sure made a fine meal that evening. Wait, I don't understand -- did the other pig jump the farmer? That was a good plan, I bet that farmer never expected there were *two* pigs involved! Of

Re: OT- Comcast Subscriber Agreement

2003-06-10 Thread Jerry Feldman
The only document I ever signed was the Continental Cablevision document. Somewhere in my archives I may have email from a VP authorizing an internal network. I could probably use that if Comcast starts playing hardball but it would be more like, "our agreement supercedes that, cease and desist".

Re: OT- Comcast Subscriber Agreement

2003-06-10 Thread Andrew W. Gaunt
It's a big pig, little pig thing. The story goes something like this: There were two baby pigs. Every night after the farmer had gone to bed, they would sneak under the wire, steal a bit of grain from the barn, eat it and and then sneak back before morning. One of the pigs had a larger appetite t

Re: OT- Comcast Subscriber Agreement

2003-06-10 Thread Michael O'Donnell
>This was cut from the email announcement. Yes, that would be an example of one of those lowest-common-denominator messages I referred to. [.] >I believe from this that attbi email forwarding will not >be available if the transition wizard is not used You are, of cour

Re: OT- Comcast Subscriber Agreement

2003-06-10 Thread Chris
This was cut from the email announcement. Time is running out to make the transition to Comcast High-Speed Internet. Take a couple of minutes to make the necessary changes now. If you have already downloaded the Transition Wizard, the only thing you need to do is restart your com

Re: OT- Comcast Subscriber Agreement

2003-06-10 Thread Michael O'Donnell
>What is even more disturbing from their latest notice >to subscribers is the fact that unless you use their >update agent, you will not be able to use the att >email forwarding That to me seems wrong, coupled >with the fact that the update agent only works on OE, >not any other email client

Re: OT- Comcast Subscriber Agreement

2003-06-10 Thread R. Sean Hartnett
I recall that Comcast is tight with Microsoft. MS made a big investment in Comcast a few years ago. On Tue, 2003-06-10 at 10:31, Chris wrote: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > On Mon, 9 Jun 2003, at 5:58pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Section 6, subsection g of [Comcast's TOS] states ...

Re: OT- Comcast Subscriber Agreement

2003-06-10 Thread Chris
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Mon, 9 Jun 2003, at 5:58pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Section 6, subsection g of [Comcast's TOS] states ... > > I'm pretty sure AT&T Broadband's TOS has similar prohibitions on > multiplexing their service. They also prohibit a number of other things. > At one

Re: OT- Comcast Subscriber Agreement

2003-06-10 Thread bscott
On Mon, 9 Jun 2003, at 5:58pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Section 6, subsection g of [Comcast's TOS] states ... I'm pretty sure AT&T Broadband's TOS has similar prohibitions on multiplexing their service. They also prohibit a number of other things. At one time, you could read their TOS as pr

Re: OT- Comcast Subscriber Agreement

2003-06-09 Thread Michael O'Donnell
FYI, machines within the attbi.com domain can connect to the NNTP server(s) named netnews.attbi.com and you may find some postings of interest related to this topic. The best group is probably attbi.ne.techtalk.general ...but there are a number of others that might also provide info of inte

OT- Comcast Subscriber Agreement

2003-06-09 Thread Greg Kettmann
Sorry if this is somewhat off topic.  Perhaps it's not since it involves Linux and NAT.   I have many friends using "Broadband Routers" that I've set up.  As I imagine we all know these allow one machine to act like a proxy for a group of other machines.  (Yes, I know it's technically not a pro