Re: running Linux at work with Windows apps

2002-11-13 Thread Roger H. Goun
On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 07:04:03PM -0500, Tom Buskey wrote: Roger H. Goun said: On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 12:52:16PM -0500, Tom Buskey wrote: Unfortunately, VMware changed the file format of thier virtual disks going from 2.x to 3.x. This doesn't work with the .vmdk files. The old format was

Re: running Linux at work with Windows apps

2002-11-13 Thread Bill Sconce
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, at 5:28pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Put another way, if there is a need continuing into the future to keep up with proprietary produccts VMWare may be a better choice. Win4Lin's design target is more tightly focused. Remember, for instance, that

Re: running Linux at work with Windows apps

2002-11-13 Thread Tom Buskey
Bill Sconce said: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As for the question of Should they?, I think the potential market for such emulation environments is good for the foreseeable future. Microsoft is going to be around for a long time (remember, there are companies still running software written

Re: running Linux at work with Windows apps

2002-11-12 Thread Bill Sconce
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, at 3:56am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One reason I ran VMware was to sync my visor via USB to a MeetingMaker server. I think I remember that Win4Lin 2.0 couldn't do USB. I this true with newer versions? No, Win4Lin does not (yet) support USB in

Re: running Linux at work with Windows apps

2002-11-12 Thread Tom Buskey
Roger H. Goun said: On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 02:51:40PM -0500, Scott Prive wrote: I'll interpret the question as: Can the Linux (host) OS access files of the Windows (client) OS, even when the client is not running? ... 3) If you use only disk images, then no (unless there's a mount tool

Re: running Linux at work with Windows apps

2002-11-11 Thread Bill Sconce
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, at 2:27pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: VMware works *very* well for the occasional windows app. You need decent hardware and RAM behind it. Also check out Win4Lin from NeTraverse. It only supports Win95/98/ME (not NT/2000/XP), and does not

Re: running Linux at work with Windows apps

2002-11-11 Thread Michael O'Donnell
3) If you use only disk images, then no (unless there's a mount tool for vmware images, which there may be I don't know..). I don't know of a VMware-specific mount tool, but see my previous message. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL

Re: running Linux at work with Windows apps

2002-11-11 Thread pll
In a message dated: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:13:54 EST Jerry Feldman said: Another advantage of Win4Lin over VMWare is that the Windows directories are installed within a Linux directory tree, so the files are all available directly from Linux. Correct me if I am wrong, but AFAIK, under VMWare,

Re: running Linux at work with Windows apps

2002-11-11 Thread pll
In a message dated: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:32:34 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Footnotes - [1] But not the word NT -- that is a trademark of Northern Telecom[2]. [2] Now DBA[3] as Nortel. [3] Doing Business As currently trading at $1.21 per share. Which makes that stupid e-mail about

Re: running Linux at work with Windows apps

2002-11-11 Thread Jerry Feldman
The question more specifically: If you are running VMWare and the Linux OS is running and the Windows OS is not running, can Linux access any files in the Windows container, or must Windows be running. In Win4Lin, since the Windows directories are part of the Linux file system, all the Windows

RE: running Linux at work with Windows apps

2002-11-11 Thread Price, Erik
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bscott;ntisys.com] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 1:39 PM To: Greater NH Linux User Group Subject: Re: running Linux at work with Windows apps Just FYI, the best term is probably Win32. That is what Microsoft officially

Re: running Linux at work with Windows apps

2002-11-11 Thread pll
In a message dated: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:02:44 EST Jerry Feldman said: The question more specifically: If you are running VMWare and the Linux OS is running and the Windows OS is not running, can Linux access any files in the Windows container, or must Windows be running. In Win4Lin, since the

RE: running Linux at work with Windows apps

2002-11-11 Thread Tilly, Lawrence
-Original Message- From: Price, Erik [mailto:eprice;ptc.com] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 2:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: running Linux at work with Windows apps -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bscott;ntisys.com] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 1:39 PM

RE: running Linux at work with Windows apps

2002-11-11 Thread Jerry Feldman
Thanks for the explanation. I am sometimes asked that question. When both OS systems are running, then one may use SMB to access shares between each os as if each were on separate networks. WRT: both Win4Lin and VMWare, VMWare is certainly the more complete product, as well as the more

Re: running Linux at work with Windows apps

2002-11-11 Thread pll
In a message dated: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 15:41:31 EST Jerry Feldman said: Thanks Paul, I believe that was not the case on early versions of VMWare. See Scott Prive's answer, as his knowledge seems more informed and detailed than my own. I'm not sure how far back you're talking, but I know I was

RE: running Linux at work with Windows apps

2002-11-11 Thread Scott Prive
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:tbuskey;attbi.com] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 3:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:running Linux at work with Windows apps snip Win4Lin uses less resources, is easier to network (no iptables NAT needed), and

Re: running Linux at work with Windows apps

2002-11-11 Thread Jerry Feldman
It always worked with Samba. On 11 Nov 2002 at 16:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure how far back you're talking, but I know I was able to do it close to 2 years ago. I don't know what version of VMWare that was, but it worked using Samba exports. -- Jerry Feldman [EMAIL

RE: running Linux at work with Windows apps

2002-11-08 Thread Travis Roy
How well do they work.. Sure they can work and suck, but are they just as good as they would be on a windows box.. Also what video card and xserver are you running? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:gnhlug-discuss-admin;mail.gnhlug.org] On Behalf Of Ben Boulanger

RE: running Linux at work with Windows apps

2002-11-08 Thread Ben Boulanger
On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, Travis Roy wrote: How well do they work.. Sure they can work and suck, but are they just as good as they would be on a windows box.. Also what video card and xserver are you running? Geforce 3 ti200, using the opengl drivers from NVidia, I'm using Xfree86, on an AMD Athlon

Re: running Linux at work with Windows apps

2002-11-08 Thread pll
In a message dated: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 14:55:49 EST Travis Roy said: How well do they work.. Sure they can work and suck, but are they just as good as they would be on a windows box.. Also what video card and xserver are you running? I've been using CrossOver Office + Plugin for about 6 months

Re: running Linux at work with Windows apps

2002-11-08 Thread Ben Boulanger
On Fri, 2002-11-08 at 15:55, Derek Martin wrote: I'd say you have it backwards... Unix users expect their stuff to work. Microsoft users expect their software to be buggy and crash. They think computers are SUPPOSED to crash... Maybe you're on to something here. Maybe this is the problem