Re: SPARC Live CD?

2006-12-21 Thread Neil Joseph Schelly
On Wednesday 20 December 2006 07:13 pm, Paul Lussier wrote: I wouldn't call myself a Solaris fan, I haven't really used it in about 5 or 6 years. But I know it well enough to feel at home there and found your description of painfully lacking a bit extreme. That wasn't a dig on all Solaris

Re: SPARC Live CD?

2006-12-21 Thread Tom Buskey
On 12/21/06, Neil Joseph Schelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 20 December 2006 07:13 pm, Paul Lussier wrote: I wouldn't call myself a Solaris fan, I haven't really used it in about 5 or 6 years. But I know it well enough to feel at home there and found your description of painfully

Re: SPARC Live CD?

2006-12-21 Thread Paul Lussier
Neil Joseph Schelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That wasn't a dig on all Solaris boxes everywhere. On this machine, it's appropriate. It was setup long ago by people who shouldn't be allowed to touch a computer. I turned it on and /usr/local couldn't be mounted. I don't know the root

Re: SPARC Live CD?

2006-12-21 Thread Ben Scott
On 12/21/06, Paul Lussier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: removing the drive and attaching it to another system is still alot faster than downloading, burning, and booting from a live CD. You need a faster Internet connection, then. ;-) Or are you still trying to route your Internet feed through

Re: SPARC Live CD?

2006-12-21 Thread Ben Scott
On 12/21/06, Paul Lussier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... gzip or bzip2. And since both are gnu tools, I wouldn't expect them on a non-gnu system ... The point you seem to be missing, Paul, is that if one has spent forever working on GNU systems, and is then suddenly put on to a non-GNU system,

Re: SPARC Live CD?

2006-12-21 Thread Tom Buskey
On 12/21/06, Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/21/06, Paul Lussier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... gzip or bzip2. And since both are gnu tools, I wouldn't expect them on a non-gnu system ... The point you seem to be missing, Paul, is that if one has spent forever working on GNU

Re: SPARC Live CD?

2006-12-21 Thread Tom Buskey
On 12/21/06, Paul Lussier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neil Joseph Schelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (though not with locate because that's not there). Locate is too often wrong (i.e. not up-to-date) to be dependable for me. It's not up to date? It's as up to date as it was when it last

Re: SPARC Live CD?

2006-12-21 Thread Paul Lussier
Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 12/21/06, Paul Lussier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: removing the drive and attaching it to another system is still alot faster than downloading, burning, and booting from a live CD. You need a faster Internet connection, then. ;-) Well, yes, but don't

Re: SPARC Live CD?

2006-12-21 Thread Paul Lussier
Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 12/21/06, Paul Lussier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... gzip or bzip2. And since both are gnu tools, I wouldn't expect them on a non-gnu system ... The point you seem to be missing, Paul, is that if one has spent forever working on GNU systems, and is

Re: SPARC Live CD?

2006-12-21 Thread Ben Scott
On 12/21/06, Paul Lussier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seriously though, LiveCDs are not usually less than 100MB. To download that is going to take some time. With bittorrent, I can and have pulled down CD images in 12 minutes. Pulling apart two computer cases, powering things on and off, etc.,

SPARC Live CD?

2006-12-20 Thread Neil Joseph Schelly
for a SPARC live CD have proved relatively empty so far. Even distros with live CDs and SPARC distributions like Gentoo and Ubuntu don't have any ISOs that are both. Anyone else have any great finds in this regard? -N ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug

Re: SPARC Live CD?

2006-12-20 Thread Tom Buskey
running Linux, but first I need to get around in the system and ensure no useful data lingers around on it. Since Solaris 7 is paingully lacking modern command line utilities, it'd sure be easier to boot this thing up with a Live CD. My searches for a SPARC live CD have proved relatively empty so

Re: SPARC Live CD?

2006-12-20 Thread Neil Joseph Schelly
searches for a SPARC live CD have proved relatively empty so far. Even distros with live CDs and SPARC distributions like Gentoo and Ubuntu don't have any ISOs that are both. Anyone else have any great finds in this regard? -N ___ gnhlug

Re: SPARC Live CD?

2006-12-20 Thread Tom Buskey
, but first I need to get around in the system and ensure no useful data lingers around on it. Since Solaris 7 is paingully lacking modern command line utilities, it'd sure be easier to boot this thing up with a Live CD. My searches for a SPARC live CD have proved relatively empty so far. Even

Re: SPARC Live CD?

2006-12-20 Thread Jason Stephenson
Tom Buskey wrote: I'd imagine there's a NetBSD and maybe OpenBSD or Gentoo. I'd imagine that, too, but I can't find a working link to either for the Sparc architecture. The only live OpenBSD CDs that I find are for i386. The working links that I can find for NetBSD live CDs are also for

Re: SPARC Live CD?

2006-12-20 Thread Tom Buskey
On 12/20/06, Jason Stephenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom Buskey wrote: I'd imagine there's a NetBSD and maybe OpenBSD or Gentoo. I'd imagine that, too, but I can't find a working link to either for the Sparc architecture. The only live OpenBSD CDs that I find are for i386. The working

Re: SPARC Live CD?

2006-12-20 Thread Kevin D. Clark
Neil Joseph Schelly writes: I'm trying to get an UltraSPARC server running Linux, but first I need to get around in the system and ensure no useful data lingers around on it. Since Solaris 7 is paingully lacking modern command line utilities, it'd sure be easier to boot this thing up

Re: SPARC Live CD?

2006-12-20 Thread Neil Joseph Schelly
On Wednesday 20 December 2006 09:25 am, Kevin D. Clark wrote: Neil Joseph Schelly writes: I'm trying to get an UltraSPARC server running Linux, but first I need to get around in the system and ensure no useful data lingers around on it. Since Solaris 7 is paingully lacking modern command

Re: SPARC Live CD?

2006-12-20 Thread Chris Linstid
Can't you just install GNU versions of the utilities? http://sunfreeware.mirrors.tds.net/indexsparc7.html They have pretty much everything there that you could possibly need as far as CLI utils go. I'd hit up fileutils-4.1 and tar-1.16 for starters. I believe they all install in

Re: SPARC Live CD?

2006-12-20 Thread Tom Buskey
On 12/20/06, Neil Joseph Schelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 20 December 2006 09:25 am, Kevin D. Clark wrote: Neil Joseph Schelly writes: I'm trying to get an UltraSPARC server running Linux, but first I need to get around in the system and ensure no useful data lingers around on

Re: SPARC Live CD?

2006-12-20 Thread Neil Joseph Schelly
On Wednesday 20 December 2006 11:20 am, Tom Buskey wrote: Ah, not using ps -ef? /usr/ucb/ps instead of /bin/ps. I bet you want the BSD ls behavior too? /usr/ucb/ls. Probably some others in /usr/ucb too. Hmm, tar isn't gnutar. I think gzip is in Solaris 7. SSH is not. For gnu stuff and

Re: SPARC Live CD?

2006-12-20 Thread Paul Lussier
Neil Joseph Schelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Since Solaris 7 is paingully lacking modern command line utilities, it'd sure be easier to boot this thing up with a Live CD. I'm curious what you mean by painfully lacking modern command line utilities. What more do you need than various

Re: SPARC Live CD?

2006-12-20 Thread Ben Scott
On 12/20/06, Paul Lussier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm curious what you mean by painfully lacking modern command line utilities. What more do you need than various combinations of ... I can sympathize with the OP. After working almost exclusively with Linux and/or systems with the full GNU

Re: SPARC Live CD?

2006-12-20 Thread Neil Joseph Schelly
On Wednesday 20 December 2006 02:23 pm, Paul Lussier wrote: Neil Joseph Schelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Since Solaris 7 is paingully lacking modern command line utilities, it'd sure be easier to boot this thing up with a Live CD. I'm curious what you mean by painfully lacking modern

Re: SPARC Live CD?

2006-12-20 Thread mike ledoux
On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 03:04:33PM -0500, Ben Scott wrote: On 12/20/06, Paul Lussier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm curious what you mean by painfully lacking modern command line utilities. What more do you need than various combinations of ... Someone who works in a more heterogeneous