Re: Silly DNS question

2010-01-24 Thread Brian Chabot
Ben Scott wrote: The detective in me has to point out that doesn't necessarily prove it's Amazon's *DNS* servers doing that. Their provisioning system might replace potentially problematic characters with dashes when creating DNS records. This distinction is mostly academic, but I

Re: Silly DNS question

2010-01-23 Thread Ben Scott
On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 12:25 AM, Brian Chabot br...@datasquire.net wrote: Toying with a piece of trivia who's origin I no longer recall, I seem to recall that some DNS servers will treat an underscore as a dash. Yikes! That's disturbing. Domain names are supposed to be unique keys. I

Silly DNS question

2010-01-22 Thread Thomas Charron
Is an _ allowed in a DNS name? I didn't think so, and my home DNS proxy doesn't think so, but other networks seem fine with it. http://www.thingiverse.com/image:8662 Above is an example, where the image is stored by amazon at

Re: Silly DNS question

2010-01-22 Thread Star
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Thomas Charron twaf...@gmail.com wrote:  Is an _ allowed in a DNS name?  I didn't think so, and my home DNS proxy doesn't think so, but other networks seem fine with it. http://www.thingiverse.com/image:8662  Above is an example, where the image is stored

Re: Silly DNS question

2010-01-22 Thread Ted Roche
On 01/22/2010 11:50 AM, Thomas Charron wrote: Is an _ allowed in a DNS name? I didn't think so, and my home DNS proxy doesn't think so, but other networks seem fine with it. http://www.thingiverse.com/image:8662 Above is an example, where the image is stored by amazon at

Re: Silly DNS question (underscore in hostname)

2010-01-22 Thread Michael ODonnell
After refreshing my memory here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hostname ...which references (what appear to be) the relevant RFCs, I recall that underscores are definitely not legal, but the corner cases (and instances of blatant [cough]Microsoft[cough] disregard) are interesting...

Re: Silly DNS question

2010-01-22 Thread Joshua Judson Rosen
Thomas Charron twaf...@gmail.com writes: Is an _ allowed in a DNS name? DNS-SD, DKIM, ADSP, and a whole bunch of other parts of the greater internet infrastructure think so--actually, they depend on it. But allowed is a long way away from in general good taste. I take _ in domains as being

Re: Silly DNS question

2010-01-22 Thread Ben Scott
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Thomas Charron twaf...@gmail.com wrote:  Is an _ allowed in a DNS name? As usual, the real world is complicated. DNS != Internet The protocol part of DNS can handle an underscore just fine. Labels can include any character except a dot (.) or ASCII NUL.

Re: Silly DNS question (underscore in hostname)

2010-01-22 Thread Ben Scott
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Michael ODonnell michael.odonn...@comcast.net wrote: ... and instances of blatant [cough]Microsoft[cough] disregard ... Not sure what you're after there. Windows allows underscores in the hostname. Linux also allows underscores in the hostname. There is

Re: Silly DNS question

2010-01-22 Thread Thomas Charron
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Ben Scott dragonh...@gmail.com wrote:  That would generally be considered non-compliant with the requirements for Internet hosts, even though DNS can handle it.  Some software attempts to enforce the former despite the later.  It's a matter of opinion who is

Re: Silly DNS question

2010-01-22 Thread Ben Scott
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Thomas Charron twaf...@gmail.com wrote:  Interesting.  My nameserver at home ends up telling me to bugger off.  :-D  Not sure which one, either our DNS forwarder, or the TDS nameservers.  Will have to take a look. Some DNS software definitely has the option

Re: Silly DNS question (underscore in hostname)

2010-01-22 Thread Michael ODonnell
(I detest FUD, even if it's aimed at a target I also dislike.) (sigh) You're right. I could swear that just before I posted my comment I had read (parts of) a rant (with examples) about how Microsoft disregards the DNS hostname rules on the Internet, but maybe I was hallucinating - I now

Re: Silly DNS question (underscore in hostname)

2010-01-22 Thread Joshua Judson Rosen
Michael ODonnell michael.odonn...@comcast.net writes: (I detest FUD, even if it's aimed at a target I also dislike.) (sigh) You're right. I could swear that just before I posted my comment I had read (parts of) a rant (with examples) about how Microsoft disregards the DNS hostname rules

Re: Silly DNS question

2010-01-22 Thread Brian Chabot
Thomas Charron wrote: On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Ben Scott dragonh...@gmail.com wrote: That would generally be considered non-compliant with the requirements for Internet hosts, even though DNS can handle it. Interesting. My nameserver at home ends up telling me to bugger off.