On Jul 9, 2007, at 17:44, Jarod Wilson wrote:
There are good reasons for _ instead of -, from a programming
standpoint.
Heh, that's funny, I hadn't thought of that. We could just call the
architecture '70' and be obtuse about it.
-Bill
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Bill McGonigle, Owner Work:
On 7/9/07, Jarod Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
... x86_64, not x86-64 ...
http://kerneltrap.org/node/2466
I give up. But I still like x86_64 better.
They're synonymous. The underscore variant exists because some
software likes that better, as you noted. The same idea exists in
plenty
Hi All,
I have a bunch of fairly high-end servers, all with dual dual-core Xeon
processors. Xeon's are supposed to be 64-bit processors, but they are all
running i386 kernels. I want to download the appropriate Debian distribution
for these boxes to enable 64-bit processing. Do I need the ia64
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64#Linux
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On 7/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi All,
I have a bunch of fairly high-end servers, all with dual dual-core Xeon
processors. Xeon's
are supposed to be 64-bit processors, but they are all running i386 kernels.
I want to
download the appropriate Debian distribution
On 7/9/07, Michael ODonnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64#Linux
Those links aren't really clear as to answer the question, tho. ;-)
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Hi All,
I have a bunch of fairly high-end servers, all with dual dual-core Xeon
processors. Xeon's are supposed to be 64-bit processors, but they are all
running i386 kernels. I want to download the appropriate Debian distribution
On 7/9/07, Mark Komarinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As others have said, you want the amd64 version. The kernels are
unified now, so the same kernel will work on an amd64 or em64t system.
Same as all other applications.
They unified the em64 and amd64 *kernel*?
Last I'd checked, they use
On 07/09/2007 11:52 AM, Thomas Charron wrote:
On 7/9/07, Mark Komarinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As others have said, you want the amd64 version. The kernels are
unified now, so the same kernel will work on an amd64 or em64t system.
Same as all other applications.
They unified the em64
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From: Thomas Charron [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 7/9/07, Mark Komarinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As others have said, you want the amd64 version. The kernels are
unified now, so the same kernel will work on an amd64 or em64t system.
Same
-- Original message --
From: Mark Komarinski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
As others have said, you want the amd64 version. The kernels are
unified now, so the same kernel will work on an amd64 or em64t system.
Same as all other applications.
If you have a need for
On 07/09/2007 12:07 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is good to know! I'm not concerned about the updating, since anything
that is 32-bit will be packages that we build ourselves. It will make the
conversion from 32-bit to 64-bit a bit easier if we run the existing 32-bit
apps that we
On 7/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Thomas Charron [EMAIL PROTECTED]
They unified the em64 and amd64 *kernel*?
Last I'd checked, they use the amd64 distributions, but there where
different kernel optimizations between amd64 and em64 kernel options.
It may be
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I have a bunch of fairly high-end servers, all with dual dual-core
Xeon processors. Xeon's are supposed to be 64-bit processors, but
they are all running i386 kernels. I want to download the
appropriate Debian distribution for these boxes to enable 64-bit
processing
:
Do I need the ia64, the amd64, or something else?
Well, who makes the Xeon? I'd go with the kernel for that chipset.
Hint: AMD does not make the Xeon ;)
iaXX stands for Intel Architecture where the XX is number of
bits...
As I understand it, the Intel Xeon 64 bit CPUs are EM64T
On 7/9/07, Jarod Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I find the use of 'amd64' for package arch in debian/ubuntu/derivatives...
well, dumb and confusing for end-users who don't know any better (as
evidenced by the existence of this thread).
I presume Debian jumped on building 64-bit packages for
Jarod Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I find the use of 'amd64' for package arch in debian/ubuntu/derivatives...
well, dumb and confusing for end-users who don't know any better (as
evidenced by the existence of this thread).
And evidently even for those (like me :) who *should*!
Oy...
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From: Jarod Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
amd64 = em64 = x86-64[1], I believe it's generally referred to as amd64
because AMD beat Intel to market with a widely used x86 compatible 64-bit
CPU.
[1] for certain values of =
I find the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It may be unified with options in the kernel config. I was looking
through the package archives, and I'm not seeing any kernels listed
as em64. I see plenty that are amd64, though. I'm downloading the
kernel source now to see what the configuration options are.
I
On Monday 09 July 2007 14:22:27 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
-- Original message --
From: Jarod Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I find the use of 'amd64' for package arch in
debian/ubuntu/derivatives... well, dumb and confusing for end-users who
don't know any better
-- Original message --
From: Jarod Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The jist is, it used to be x86-64, then it was amd64, but x86_64 is still
used. Now doesn't that just clear everything up? :-)
...only that seems in correct, from my recollection. I seem to recall
On 7/9/07, Jarod Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...only that seems in correct, from my recollection. I seem to recall amd64
being called x86_64 originally. Intel's implementation was then announced as
x86-64. (note the _ vs. the - ). After that, AMD went with amd64 to
differentiate more. But
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From: Paul Lussier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I just found these:
$ apt-cache search em64
kernel-image-2.6-em64t-p4 - Linux kernel image for version 2.6 on \
Intel EM64T systems - transition package
On Monday 09 July 2007 14:56:51 Chip Marshall wrote:
On 7/9/07, Jarod Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...only that seems in correct, from my recollection. I seem to recall
amd64 being called x86_64 originally. Intel's implementation was then
announced as x86-64. (note the _ vs. the - ).
On Monday 09 July 2007 14:46:22 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
-- Original message --
From: Jarod Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The jist is, it used to be x86-64, then it was amd64, but x86_64 is
still used. Now doesn't that just clear everything up? :-)
...only
On 7/9/07, Jarod Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I seem to recall amd64 being called x86_64 originally. Intel's implementation
was then announced as x86-64. (note the _ vs. the - ). After that, AMD went
with amd64 to differentiate more.
Yah, I believe AMD started out calling it x86-64. AMD
On 7/9/07, Jarod Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I find the use of 'amd64' for package arch in debian/ubuntu/derivatives...
well, dumb and confusing for end-users who don't know any better (as
evidenced by the existence of this thread).
Blame Intel. Intel *insisted*, *at length*, *loudly*,
The IA64 architecture refers to the Itanium processors. The IA32
architecture would cover most Xeon processors although there is a 64 bit
extended model that has an almost identical instruction set to the AMD-64
family of processors.
-Alex
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From: Kenneth E. Lussier
To be a bit more specific, Intel calls their extended 64 bit technology
EM64T. So you need a Xeon processor with the EM64T extensions to have a 64
bit capable processor. Like the AMD 64/Opteron processors, the extended Xeon
is expected to be 100% IA32 compatible.
-Alex
http://www.intel.com
You should probably confine yourself to IA32 processors since the vast
majority of Xeons you will encounter will be strictly IA32.
-Alex
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From: Kenneth E. Lussier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 2:20 PM
Subject: Xeon
Kenneth E. Lussier wrote:
This is a fairly dumb question, but can anyone tell me if a Xeon CPU is
32-bit or 64-bit? I am going to be doing some development work on dual
xeon servers, and I don't know if I need the ia64 version of Debian, or
the ia32 version. I know that the Xeon has been
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