Re: linux accounting software or cheap winxp

2009-12-03 Thread Lloyd Kvam
On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 09:58 -0500, Lloyd Kvam wrote: On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 09:06 -0400, Bruce Dawson wrote: Hmmm. Maybe its time to have a presentation on GNUCash? Seems there have been lots of changes since I last looked at it! Are there any volunteers? I'll attempt the conversion

Re: linux accounting software or cheap winxp

2009-03-02 Thread Paul Lussier
virgins...@vfemail.net writes: Ah. I thought, by ledger, you were referring to part of Gnucash. ledger is the name of one of Gnucash's components (the part in which the transactions are entered). It seems ledger is also a the name of an altogether different accounting package... Indeed.

Re: linux accounting software or cheap winxp

2009-03-01 Thread VirginSnow
From: Paul Lussier p.luss...@comcast.net Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 19:54:44 -0500 Cc: gnhlug-disc...@gnhlug.org Bruce Dawson j...@codemeta.com writes: OK. I'll ask the obvious next question - where did this 'ledger' command come from? Err, apt-get install ledger ? Though I tend to

Re: linux accounting software or cheap winxp

2009-02-28 Thread Paul Lussier
Bill McGonigle b...@bfccomputing.com writes: On 02/24/2009 02:55 PM, Paul Lussier wrote: My goal is to track the gasoline usage, not the cost of the gasoline I use. The former doesn't vary much, whereas the latter varies drastically. Can you just enter gallons as dollars? No, because I

Re: linux accounting software or cheap winxp

2009-02-28 Thread Bruce Dawson
Paul Lussier wrote: Bill McGonigle b...@bfccomputing.com writes: On 02/24/2009 02:55 PM, Paul Lussier wrote: My goal is to track the gasoline usage, not the cost of the gasoline I use. The former doesn't vary much, whereas the latter varies drastically. Can you just enter

Re: linux accounting software or cheap winxp

2009-02-28 Thread Paul Lussier
Bruce Dawson j...@codemeta.com writes: OK. I'll ask the obvious next question - where did this 'ledger' command come from? Err, apt-get install ledger ? Though I tend to compile from source. It's a John Wiegley production, so it should be available from his website, www.newartisans.com. --

Re: linux accounting software or cheap winxp

2009-02-27 Thread Bill McGonigle
On 02/24/2009 02:55 PM, Paul Lussier wrote: My goal is to track the gasoline usage, not the cost of the gasoline I use. The former doesn't vary much, whereas the latter varies drastically. Can you just enter gallons as dollars? -Bill -- Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440

Re: linux accounting software or cheap winxp

2009-02-25 Thread Derek Atkins
Paul Lussier p.luss...@comcast.net writes: virgins...@vfemail.net writes: There's a GTK-based (gnome-based glade-based guile-based...) accounting package called Gnucash (www.gnucash.org). My latest current complaint with GnuCash is the lack of support for commodities purchased outside of a

Re: linux accounting software or cheap winxp

2009-02-24 Thread Paul Lussier
virgins...@vfemail.net writes: There's a GTK-based (gnome-based glade-based guile-based...) accounting package called Gnucash (www.gnucash.org). My latest current complaint with GnuCash is the lack of support for commodities purchased outside of a commodity exchange. What I want to do is

Re: linux accounting software or cheap winxp

2009-02-22 Thread Ben Scott
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Dan Jenkins d...@rastech.com wrote: I used to be amazed that no-one had developed a common framework that everyone could simply incorporate in their products. They have; it's called ADP, Inc.. ;-) -- Ben ___

Re: linux accounting software or cheap winxp

2009-02-21 Thread Dan Jenkins
Derek Atkins wrote: Lloyd Kvam pyt...@venix.com writes: NOTE-- The payroll documentation says: GnuCash does not have an integrated payroll system. While you can track payroll expenses in GnuCash, the calculation of taxes and deductions has to be done outside of GnuCash. That's the

Re: linux accounting software or cheap winxp

2009-02-19 Thread Ed lawson
On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 08:41:25 -0500 Derek Atkins warl...@mit.edu wrote: I can't speak to Ubuntu, but www.gnucash.org says: GnuCash is personal and small-business financial-accounting software, I have used GnuCash for several years and have been pleased with it as a means of budgeting and

Re: linux accounting software or cheap winxp

2009-02-18 Thread Derek Atkins
Lloyd Kvam lk...@venix.com writes: Also the package description blurbs focus on Quicken and QIF support so it's not obvious that Gnucash is meant for general business use. The Ubuntu package info says: A personal finance tracking program This is not meant to justify my ignorance,

Re: linux accounting software or cheap winxp

2009-02-17 Thread Bruce Dawson
Hmmm. Maybe its time to have a presentation on GNUCash? Seems there have been lots of changes since I last looked at it! Are there any volunteers? --Bruce virgins...@vfemail.net wrote: Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 19:49:38 -0400 From: Bruce Dawson j...@codemeta.com CC:

Re: linux accounting software or cheap winxp

2009-02-17 Thread VirginSnow
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 09:06:03 -0400 From: Bruce Dawson j...@codemeta.com Hmmm. Maybe its time to have a presentation on GNUCash? Seems there have been lots of changes since I last looked at it! I seem to remember Rob Anderson doing a presentation on Gnucash at one of the SLUG meetings a

Re: linux accounting software or cheap winxp

2009-02-17 Thread Lloyd Kvam
On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 17:31 -0500, Lloyd Kvam wrote: On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 21:42 +, virgins...@vfemail.net wrote: Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 08:45:25 -0500 From: Jerry Feldman g...@blu.org GNUCash is not really an accounting system. Others have listed several.=20 Oh, really?!

Re: linux accounting software or cheap winxp

2009-02-17 Thread Lloyd Kvam
On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 09:06 -0400, Bruce Dawson wrote: Hmmm. Maybe its time to have a presentation on GNUCash? Seems there have been lots of changes since I last looked at it! Are there any volunteers? I'll attempt the conversion of my books to Gnucash and keep notes. I'll still need to

Re: linux accounting software or cheap winxp

2009-02-17 Thread Derek Atkins
Hi, Lloyd Kvam pyt...@venix.com writes: I've been using accounting software on my old winNT computer, which is just about dead. I was able to close out the year by moving the software to my Linux laptop and using crossover office. However, there are too many glitches to stick with this for

Re: linux accounting software or cheap winxp

2009-02-17 Thread Derek Atkins
virgins...@vfemail.net writes: That is, except for the crashes. For reasons only my CPU may ever know, Gnucash decided to crash every ten or so transactions I entered into it. My workaround was to save early and often, but it eventually got to be so annoying that I stopped using Gnucash all

Re: linux accounting software or cheap winxp

2009-02-17 Thread Derek Atkins
Jerry Feldman g...@blu.org writes: GNUCash is not really an accounting system. Others have listed Why do you say this? What makes something an accounting system? -derek -- Derek Atkins, SB '93 MIT EE, SM '95 MIT Media Laboratory Member, MIT Student Information Processing Board

Re: linux accounting software or cheap winxp

2009-02-17 Thread Derek Atkins
virgins...@vfemail.net writes: When I used Gnucash, I made most of my entries with the ledger in general journal mode. It wasn't immediately obvious how to do it, but there were ways to make it look like/behave real books. Much of the code that I contributed (the PL report among it) was

Re: linux accounting software or cheap winxp

2009-02-17 Thread Derek Atkins
Lloyd Kvam pyt...@venix.com writes: NOTE-- The payroll documentation says: GnuCash does not have an integrated payroll system. While you can track payroll expenses in GnuCash, the calculation of taxes and deductions has to be done outside of GnuCash. That's the last piece a small business

Re: linux accounting software or cheap winxp

2009-02-17 Thread Bruce Dawson
Lloyd Kvam wrote: On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 09:06 -0400, Bruce Dawson wrote: Hmmm. Maybe its time to have a presentation on GNUCash? Seems there have been lots of changes since I last looked at it! Are there any volunteers? I'll attempt the conversion of my books to Gnucash and keep

Re: linux accounting software or cheap winxp

2009-02-16 Thread Lloyd Kvam
On Sat, 2009-02-14 at 08:18 -0500, Jerry Feldman wrote: In summary this is what I would do: 1. If you find a native accounting package that suits your needs, then use it GnuCash does not appear to be adequate for business use. I will check further. 2. If you can run your accounting package

Re: linux accounting software or cheap winxp

2009-02-16 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 02/16/2009 08:04 AM, Lloyd Kvam wrote: On Sat, 2009-02-14 at 08:18 -0500, Jerry Feldman wrote: . Use a workstation VMM (like VMWare Workstation, Virtualbox, KVM/QEMU, Xen). Most can run Windows NT or Windows Vista. And remember, performance is very much a factor of memory.

Re: linux accounting software or cheap winxp

2009-02-16 Thread Lloyd Kvam
On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 08:45 -0500, Jerry Feldman wrote: But, one option is to try to run your legacy system under WINE or Crossover Office. Moving from one accounting package to another is always a pain. I managed to close out the year using Crossover Office, but there were too many glitches

Re: linux accounting software or cheap winxp

2009-02-16 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 02/16/2009 09:12 AM, Lloyd Kvam wrote: On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 08:45 -0500, Jerry Feldman wrote: But, one option is to try to run your legacy system under WINE or Crossover Office. Moving from one accounting package to another is always a pain. I managed to close out the year using

Re: linux accounting software or cheap winxp

2009-02-16 Thread VirginSnow
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 08:45:25 -0500 From: Jerry Feldman g...@blu.org GNUCash is not really an accounting system. Others have listed several.=20 Oh, really?! Now that you mention it, you're right. It's funy how I've contributed code to Gnucash and never noticed that it wasn't an accounting

Re: linux accounting software or cheap winxp

2009-02-16 Thread Lloyd Kvam
On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 21:42 +, virgins...@vfemail.net wrote: Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 08:45:25 -0500 From: Jerry Feldman g...@blu.org GNUCash is not really an accounting system. Others have listed several.=20 Oh, really?! Now that you mention it, you're right. It's funy how I've

Re: linux accounting software or cheap winxp

2009-02-16 Thread Bruce Dawson
virgins...@vfemail.net wrote: Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 08:45:25 -0500 From: Jerry Feldman g...@blu.org GNUCash is not really an accounting system. Others have listed several.=20 Oh, really?! Now that you mention it, you're right. It's funy how I've contributed code to

Re: linux accounting software or cheap winxp

2009-02-16 Thread VirginSnow
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 19:49:38 -0400 From: Bruce Dawson j...@codemeta.com CC: gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org How is Gnucash not an accounting system? GNUCash is/was more of a bookkeeping system than an accounting system. Accounting systems usually have something akin to a

Re: linux accounting software or cheap winxp

2009-02-14 Thread Bill McGonigle
On 02/13/2009 06:29 PM, Lloyd Kvam wrote: I could not find any adequate business accounting packages for Linux. I'm going to be trying out Postbooks once I get my current set of billing out (currently on LedgerSMB, a fork of SQLLedger). -Bill -- Bill McGonigle, Owner Work:

Re: linux accounting software or cheap winxp

2009-02-14 Thread Greg Rundlett (freephile)
On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Bill McGonigle b...@bfccomputing.com wrote: On 02/13/2009 06:29 PM, Lloyd Kvam wrote: I could not find any adequate business accounting packages for Linux. I'm going to be trying out Postbooks once I get my current set of billing out (currently on LedgerSMB, a

linux accounting software or cheap winxp

2009-02-13 Thread Lloyd Kvam
I've been using accounting software on my old winNT computer, which is just about dead. I was able to close out the year by moving the software to my Linux laptop and using crossover office. However, there are too many glitches to stick with this for the long term. I could not find any adequate

Re: linux accounting software or cheap winxp

2009-02-13 Thread Ben Scott
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Lloyd Kvam pyt...@venix.com wrote: I could not find any adequate business accounting packages for Linux. In the past, I examined Quasar Accounting from Linux Canada http://www.linuxcanada.com/. The core is GPL. True client/server. Runs on Linux and Windows.

Re: linux accounting software or cheap winxp

2009-02-13 Thread Dan Jenkins
Lloyd Kvam wrote: I could not find any adequate business accounting packages for Linux. It's been a couple of years since I evaluated them, but here's a few packages I checked out back then which looked reasonable. Without knowing what depth purpose of accounting software you need, it is

Re: linux accounting software or cheap winxp

2009-02-13 Thread VirginSnow
From: Lloyd Kvam pyt...@venix.com Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 18:29:27 -0500 I could not find any adequate business accounting packages for Linux. IIRC, this has been discussed previously on this list. Have you tried searching the list archives? I haven't. And I don't remember if I've babbled

Re: linux accounting software or cheap winxp

2009-02-13 Thread Peter Dobratz
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 8:13 PM, virgins...@vfemail.net wrote: From: Lloyd Kvam pyt...@venix.com Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 18:29:27 -0500 I could not find any adequate business accounting packages for Linux. There's a GTK-based (gnome-based glade-based guile-based...) accounting package