Re: spam filters

2004-05-19 Thread Cole Tuininga
On Wed, 2004-05-19 at 13:48, Kevin D. Clark wrote: > Cole Tuininga writes: > > This definitely depends on your setup. I have a couple systems running > > spamd as root to allow it to su to the given user. It works quite well. *sigh* I looked into doing things this way. It turns out that whe

Re: spam filters

2004-05-19 Thread Kevin D. Clark
Cole Tuininga writes: > This definitely depends on your setup. I have a couple systems running > spamd as root to allow it to su to the given user. It works quite well. Did you roll your own code to handle the su-ing to a given user, or did you get some code from somewhere? IIRC, I had to man

Re: SPF and spam (was: spam filters)

2004-05-19 Thread Paul Iadonisi
On Mon, 2004-05-17 at 23:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Sun, 16 May 2004, at 5:41pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > 2. SPF. This seems to be promoted as something we should really want - > > tightening the loose SMTP rules which permit spammers to pretend to be > > sending from arbitrary address

Re: spam filters

2004-05-19 Thread Cole Tuininga
On Wed, 2004-05-19 at 01:13, Jason Stephenson wrote: > Spamassassin looks in the home directory of the user it is running as > for the bayes database. It is really designed to be called from a > procmail filter running as the user whose mail is being scanned. > However, most setups configure it

Re: spam filters

2004-05-18 Thread Kevin D. Clark
Jason Stephenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Spamassassin looks in the home directory of the user it is running as > for the bayes database. Yes, and spamd seems to do this too. I think that this is a problem. The problem is obvious: one person's ham is another person's spam, and spam/ham wo

Re: spam filters

2004-05-18 Thread Jason Stephenson
Kevin D. Clark wrote: [snip] However, I recall that I encountered two problems when I attempted to use SpamAssassin's spamd/spamc combination: o my databases for spam/ham wordlists seemed to get misplaced, or, at least, not consulted when spamc was processing incoming mail. Spamass

Re: spam filters

2004-05-17 Thread Kevin D. Clark
I haven't messed around with my SpamAssassin setup for a while now, except to enhance some of the basic scoring checks. However, I recall that I encountered two problems when I attempted to use SpamAssassin's spamd/spamc combination: o my databases for spam/ham wordlists seemed to get mispla

SPF and spam (was: spam filters)

2004-05-17 Thread bscott
On Sun, 16 May 2004, at 5:41pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > 2. SPF. This seems to be promoted as something we should really want - > tightening the loose SMTP rules which permit spammers to pretend to be > sending from arbitrary addresses (including yours). Background information (for the list)

Re: spam filters

2004-05-17 Thread bscott
On Sun, 16 May 2004, at 5:41pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > OTOH, my honest answer is that only after I 'fessed up to myself that > there's no free lunch have we been able to be in control of the spam mess. Indeed. Spam-filtering is a great "one size does NOT fit all" case. One person's spam is

Re: spam filters

2004-05-17 Thread bscott
On Fri, 14 May 2004, at 9:09pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I am looking for recommendations for spam filtering. As others have said, SpamAssassin is a very good foundation. Even in the untrained "factory install" configuration, I find it does a very good job. I just used the canned procmailrc

Re: spam filters

2004-05-17 Thread Neal Richardson
I would like to thank all on the list for there recommendations. We have decided to change ISP's and install spamassassin. Thank you Neal ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss

Re: spam filters

2004-05-17 Thread Larry Cook
Dan Jenkins wrote: Bill Sconce wrote: 1. Thunderbird. The "training" interface is presented in a streamlined way - perhaps that makes it better. Any field experience from the group? I use Mozilla (1.6) which has the junk mail training like Thunderbird. I too have been using Mozilla's junk mail filt

Re: spam filters

2004-05-16 Thread Dan Jenkins
Bill Sconce wrote: 1. Thunderbird. The "training" interface is presented in a streamlined way - perhaps that makes it better. Any field experience from the group? I use Mozilla (1.6) which has the junk mail training like Thunderbird. I also use SpamAssassin & Procmail on the mail server and som

Re: spam filters

2004-05-16 Thread Bill Sconce
On Fri, 14 May 2004 21:09:51 -0400 Neal Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am looking for recommendations for spam filtering. The current > situation is this. Our current ISP told us that spam is our problem not > theirs (this I believe to be fair except they are hosting our email). We > ar

Re: spam filters

2004-05-16 Thread Chris Brenton
On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 09:44, Jerry Feldman wrote: > > Your ISP is a bit misguided. SPAM is a serious problem for ISPs as it > takes up a significant part of their bandwidth. > But, there is another issue. Should an ISP filter your email. IMHO, they > should allow their clients to decide whether or

Re: spam filters

2004-05-16 Thread Jerry Feldman
On Sun, 16 May 2004 08:00:57 -0400 Travis Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Neal Richardson wrote: > > I am looking for recommendations for spam filtering. The current > > situation is this. Our current ISP told us that spam is our problem > > not theirs (this I believe to be fair except they are h

Re: spam filters

2004-05-16 Thread Travis Roy
Neal Richardson wrote: I am looking for recommendations for spam filtering. The current situation is this. Our current ISP told us that spam is our problem not theirs (this I believe to be fair except they are hosting our email). We are looking for some sort of a gateway/filtering system to try and

Re: spam filters

2004-05-14 Thread William Stearns
Good evening, Neal, On Fri, 14 May 2004, Neal Richardson wrote: > I am looking for recommendations for spam filtering. The current > situation is this. Our current ISP told us that spam is our problem not > theirs (this I believe to be fair except they are hosting our email). We > are looking for

spam filters

2004-05-14 Thread Neal Richardson
I am looking for recommendations for spam filtering. The current situation is this. Our current ISP told us that spam is our problem not theirs (this I believe to be fair except they are hosting our email). We are looking for some sort of a gateway/filtering system to try and stop the hemorrhaging.