Re: Frames and Motorola's New Router.
At 2023 Mar 14 Tue 08:07 PM +, Lori Nagel wrote: > It is a new motorola router. What model? -- Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Frames and Motorola's New Router.
I found this, maybe it will help. https://kevinlocke.name/bits/2019/12/28/checking-802.11w-support/ On Tue, Mar 14, 2023, 4:08 PM Lori Nagel wrote: > > I think that is it. It is a new motorola router. > On Monday, March 13, 2023 at 07:46:17 PM EDT, Thomas Charron < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > He might mean protected management frames? > > On Mon, Mar 13, 2023, 7:36 PM Ben Scott wrote: > > At 2023 Mar 12 Sun 09:36 PM -0400, Bruce Labitt < > [email protected]> wrote: > >>> Why don't linux machines let me use the Wi-Fi when the router is set > to frames. > >>> It is supposed to be enhanced security, but it only works under > windows. > >> > >> I'm not sure what you mean here. > > > > Perhaps the router was set to use jumbo frames? > > Jumbo frames aren't a security feature. They also work under Linux. They > also don't make any sense on a home router, where the MTU for the WAN side > will almost always be the same or less than regular Ethernet frames, let > alone jumbo. > > -- Ben > ___ > gnhlug-discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ > > ___ > gnhlug-discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ > ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Frames and Motorola's New Router.
That wouldn't be a "Linux won't work" as much as it may be a driver incompatibility or, something that requires some setup. What brand is your wifi card? On Tue, Mar 14, 2023, 4:08 PM Lori Nagel wrote: > > I think that is it. It is a new motorola router. > On Monday, March 13, 2023 at 07:46:17 PM EDT, Thomas Charron < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > He might mean protected management frames? > > On Mon, Mar 13, 2023, 7:36 PM Ben Scott wrote: > > At 2023 Mar 12 Sun 09:36 PM -0400, Bruce Labitt < > [email protected]> wrote: > >>> Why don't linux machines let me use the Wi-Fi when the router is set > to frames. > >>> It is supposed to be enhanced security, but it only works under > windows. > >> > >> I'm not sure what you mean here. > > > > Perhaps the router was set to use jumbo frames? > > Jumbo frames aren't a security feature. They also work under Linux. They > also don't make any sense on a home router, where the MTU for the WAN side > will almost always be the same or less than regular Ethernet frames, let > alone jumbo. > > -- Ben > ___ > gnhlug-discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ > > ___ > gnhlug-discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ > ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Frames and Motorola's New Router.
I think that is it. It is a new motorola router. On Monday, March 13, 2023 at 07:46:17 PM EDT, Thomas Charron wrote: He might mean protected management frames? On Mon, Mar 13, 2023, 7:36 PM Ben Scott wrote: At 2023 Mar 12 Sun 09:36 PM -0400, Bruce Labitt wrote: >>> Why don't linux machines let me use the Wi-Fi when the router is set to >>> frames. >>> It is supposed to be enhanced security, but it only works under windows. >> >> I'm not sure what you mean here. > > Perhaps the router was set to use jumbo frames? Jumbo frames aren't a security feature. They also work under Linux. They also don't make any sense on a home router, where the MTU for the WAN side will almost always be the same or less than regular Ethernet frames, let alone jumbo. -- Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Frames and Motorola's New Router.
He might mean protected management frames? On Mon, Mar 13, 2023, 7:36 PM Ben Scott wrote: > At 2023 Mar 12 Sun 09:36 PM -0400, Bruce Labitt < > [email protected]> wrote: > >>> Why don't linux machines let me use the Wi-Fi when the router is set > to frames. > >>> It is supposed to be enhanced security, but it only works under > windows. > >> > >> I'm not sure what you mean here. > > > > Perhaps the router was set to use jumbo frames? > > Jumbo frames aren't a security feature. They also work under Linux. They > also don't make any sense on a home router, where the MTU for the WAN side > will almost always be the same or less than regular Ethernet frames, let > alone jumbo. > > -- Ben > ___ > gnhlug-discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ > ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Frames and Motorola's New Router.
At 2023 Mar 12 Sun 09:36 PM -0400, Bruce Labitt wrote: >>> Why don't linux machines let me use the Wi-Fi when the router is set to >>> frames. >>> It is supposed to be enhanced security, but it only works under windows. >> >> I'm not sure what you mean here. > > Perhaps the router was set to use jumbo frames? Jumbo frames aren't a security feature. They also work under Linux. They also don't make any sense on a home router, where the MTU for the WAN side will almost always be the same or less than regular Ethernet frames, let alone jumbo. -- Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Frames and Motorola's New Router.
On 3/12/23 9:29 PM, Benjamin Scott wrote: > At 2023 Mar 12 Sun 10:42 PM +, Lori Nagel wrote: >> Why don't linux machines let me use the Wi-Fi when the router is set to >> frames. > I'm not sure what you mean here. A "frame" is the unit of network data > transmission at the data link level (Ethernet or Wifi). Literally all > routers use frames. Everything you send or receive gets encapsulated into > frames, whether you're using Linux or Windows. > > What model router do you have? > > -- Ben > ___ > gnhlug-discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/ > Perhaps the router was set to use jumbo frames? ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Re: Frames and Motorola's New Router.
At 2023 Mar 12 Sun 10:42 PM +, Lori Nagel wrote: >Why don't linux machines let me use the Wi-Fi when the router is set to frames. I'm not sure what you mean here. A "frame" is the unit of network data transmission at the data link level (Ethernet or Wifi). Literally all routers use frames. Everything you send or receive gets encapsulated into frames, whether you're using Linux or Windows. What model router do you have? -- Ben ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
Frames and Motorola's New Router.
Why don't linux machines let me use the Wi-Fi when the router is set to frames. It is supposed to be enhanced security, but it only works under windows. I googled it and can't find anything about it. It only requires a password just like regular WPA2. Sorry, if I didn't explain this better. ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-discuss/
