I am afraid I am going to be absent, because I don't have network in my home
these days.
Regards,
Li
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Joanmarie Diggs joanmarie.di...@gmail.com
wrote:
Ugh.
Tomorrow is our next a11y team meeting in #a11y-meeting at 14:30 UTC.
For those of you in Europe
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* What is atk?
===
The interface definitions of accessibility infrastructure.
* What's changed for atk 1.91.92?
BGO#638377: Add text_insert, text_remove, and text_update
It is Chinese New Year now, so I can not join the meeting. See you next
time.
Li
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 5:23 AM, Joanmarie Diggs joan...@gnome.org wrote:
Hey all.
Tomorrow is our next 07:00 UTC a11y team meeting in #a11y-meeting. The
tentative agenda, along with links to the minutes of
===
* What is atk?
===
The interface definitions of accessibility infrastructure.
* What's changed for atk 1.33.6?
Returns FALSE on atk_object_add_relationship if it is
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Piñeiro apinhe...@igalia.com wrote:
From: Li Yuan liy...@gnome.org
GAIL has been moved into Gtk+ for a long time. For new GAIL bugs, please
file them in Gtk+/gail categoty on bugzilla.gnome.org.
Well, I think that in order to avoid that it would be good
The gail part of patch looks OK to me. Like API said, please split the patch
so I can review the gail part.
Li
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Bill Cox waywardg...@gmail.com wrote:
Actually, I do have a bug report with a patch for GTK+ accessibility here:
to commit fixes directly.
Is this correct? If not, please let me know who to contact about
accepting accessibility patches to GTK+.
Thanks,
Bill
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 2:27 AM, Li Yuan liy...@gnome.org wrote:
Hi,
GAIL has been moved into Gtk+ for a long time. For new GAIL bugs, please
Hi,
GAIL has been moved into Gtk+ for a long time. For new GAIL bugs, please
file them in Gtk+/gail categoty on bugzilla.gnome.org.
I have cleared open bugs under atk/gail, moved 34 bugs to Gtk+/gail, and
closed 26 duplicated or obsoleted bugs. There are 68 bugs under
Gtk+/gail now.
Regards,
Li
===
* What is at-spi?
===
at-spi (assistive technology service provider interface) is the primary
assistive technology infrastructure for the Solaris and Linux
operating environments. Applications and toolkits supporting the
AT-SPI include the GNOME GTK+
I am at GUADEC too, only be able to connect to the network with my phone (do
not know why). Will join you next time.
Li
在 2010-7-28，17:00，Piñeiro apinhe...@igalia.com 写到：
Gently reminder.
Tomorrow 2010/07/29 at 15:00 UTC a11y weekly meeting.
Previous minutes [1]
Find tentative agenda
Hi Bill,
I am OK with what your patch does. But we need Gtk+ maintainers to
review the Gtk+ part of patch.
Li
于 2010/6/29 19:52, Bill Cox 写道:
We can test the patch over in VInux land. I'm busy today and
tomorrow, but I can probably upload a patched GTK+ on Thursday.
On a related issue,
They said they have bug triagers to triage bugs. You can write a mail to
Gtk+ mail alias if your bug is not triaged.
Li
于 2010/7/2 2:03, Bill Cox 写道:
That's good noew, Li. Do you know how to contact the maintainers to
get a review?
Thanks,
Bill
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 2:18 AM, Li
Hi Fernando,
于 2010/6/24 3:22, Fernando Herrera 写道:
Also, I would like to add that I'm working in libgail-gnome for GNOME
3, that is: removing bonobo controls and ensuring that the Atk
implementation of PanelApplet objects works fine with the new dbus
based gnome-applets branch.
It's
Hi Bill,
Thanks for the suggestion. Comments below.
于 2010/6/6 0:52, Bill Cox 写道:
Hi, Luke. The speed in gconf-editor is a big problem, but not
technically a bug.
We have a bug for gailtreeview's performance:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=577098, and we have done some
analysis
I am not aware of any at-spi-registryd crash which is relative to
gconf... It would be great if you can file one and paste a trace on it.
Does rebooting the machine fix the problem? (I mean make the
accessibility work)
Li
On 04/16/2010 03:40 PM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
In going over
Have you enabled accessibility for the desktop? Seems the
at-spi-registryd runing on your system is launched by bonobo-activation
but not gnome-session.
Li
On 04/16/2010 04:05 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
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gnome-accessibility-list mailing
Both UTC 6:00 and UTC 7:00 is OK for me.
Li
On 04/12/2010 09:49 AM, Bryen M. Yunashko wrote:
On Sun, 2010-04-11 at 20:17 -0400, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
On Mon, 2010-04-12 at 09:36 +1000, Luke Yelavich wrote:
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 09:13:17AM EST, Bryen M. Yunashko wrote:
is required, take a look here:
http://live.gnome.org/Accessibility/GNOME3#libgail-gnome_.28drop_for_GNOME3.29
Anyway probably Li Yuan can give a concluding answer.
Best Regards,
[1]
http://git.gnome.org/browse/jhbuild/tree/modulesets/gnome-suites-3.0.modules#n1811
[2] http
Here is mine.
http://blogs.gnome.org/leeyuan/2010/04/02/gnome-accessibility-hackfest/
Li
On Thu, 2010-04-01 at 19:02 +0300, Eitan Isaacson wrote:
Thanks Ben, Willie, Flavio, Joanie and Bryen for blogging. Did I forget
someone?
I'll follow up with another post soon as well with links to all
===
* What is at-spi?
===
at-spi (assistive technology service provider interface) is the primary
assistive technology infrastructure for the Solaris and Linux
operating environments. Applications and toolkits supporting the
AT-SPI include the GNOME GTK+
Hi Bastien,
Please note that lacking of A11Y name is not the only problem of status
icon A11Y. AtkAction interface is also needed by on screen keyboard.
There are AtkPlug and AtkSocket interfaces now in ATK. So we probably
need to implement these interfaces for status icon in GAIL.
Li
On Wed,
===
* What is atk?
===
The interface definitions of accessibility infrastructure.
* What's changed for atk 1.29.92?
Fix: Bug #608399. Correct the link of accessibility page.
===
* What is at-spi?
===
at-spi (assistive technology service provider interface) is the primary
assistive technology infrastructure for the Solaris and Linux
operating environments. Applications and toolkits supporting the
AT-SPI include the GNOME GTK+
On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 12:04 +, Bastien Nocera wrote:
It would be nice if you could test that instant-on a11y works as
expected (module loading, application registering) and let us know
whether it works.
I'd like to. But instant-on seems doesn't work on my system. atk-bridge
isn't
On Tue, 2010-03-02 at 12:27 +, Bastien Nocera wrote:
On Tue, 2010-03-02 at 12:22 +0800, Li Yuan wrote:
Mathias made the patch
(http://bugzilla-attachments.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=118981 ) to
make at-spi support XSettings.
From a11y side, gail and atk-bridge/atk-adaptor, as GTK
+ already reads the XSettings variable and loads modules
accordingly in gtk_init(). The filling of that property is currently
done by gnome-settings-daemon.
Yes, you are right, I have just made a quick search, thanks.
Probably people like Mathias Clasen, Li Yuan and Willie Walker knows
more
XEvIE has not been maintained for some time. I remember it doesn't work
now. at-spi2 can intercept keyboard/mouse events through atk-adaptor.
Li
On Wed, 2010-02-10 at 12:55 +0100, Patrick Welche wrote:
While trying to sort out configure.ac in at-spi2-core, I came across
On Wed, 2010-02-10 at 19:04 -0500, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:
On Wed, 2010-02-10 at 16:18 -0800, Brian Cameron wrote:
Eitan:
Showroom
* We will be demonstrating GNOME to the industry and to users. As far
as I know, we are the only ones offering a completely free,
===
* What is at-spi?
===
at-spi (assistive technology service provider interface) is the primary
assistive technology infrastructure for the Solaris and Linux
operating environments. Applications and toolkits supporting the
AT-SPI include the GNOME GTK+
at-spi2 has been put into OpenSolaris' development releases. But I can't
put it into stable release without
http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=13438 fixed. I believe
this is a at-spi and at-spi2 co-exist bug. And we still have not run a
full test for CORBA based accessibility under
===
* What is at-spi?
===
at-spi (assistive technology service provider interface) is the primary
assistive technology infrastructure for the Solaris and Linux
operating environments. Applications and toolkits supporting the
AT-SPI include the GNOME GTK+
===
* What is atk?
===
The interface definitions of accessibility infrastructure.
* What's changed for atk 1.29.4?
Fix: 592146 - Build introspection data if available and
===
* What is at-spi?
===
at-spi (assistive technology service provider interface) is the primary
assistive technology infrastructure for the Solaris and Linux
operating environments. Applications and toolkits supporting the
AT-SPI include the GNOME GTK+
===
* What is atk?
===
The interface definitions of accessibility infrastructure.
* What's changed for atk 1.29.3?
Fix: 601552 - Need a way to denote out-of-process
===
* What is atk?
===
The interface definitions of accessibility infrastructure.
* What's changed for atk 1.29.2?
Fix: 569427 - Atk should include a reciprocal relationship
===
* What is at-spi?
===
at-spi (assistive technology service provider interface) is the primary
assistive technology infrastructure for the Solaris and Linux
operating environments. Applications and toolkits supporting the
AT-SPI include the GNOME GTK+
===
* What is at-spi?
===
at-spi (assistive technology service provider interface) is the primary
assistive technology infrastructure for the Solaris and Linux
operating environments. Applications and toolkits supporting the
AT-SPI include the GNOME GTK+
Yes, it is great to discuss AT_SPI/D-Bus on the Summit. We can review
the rest tasks and make sure someone is working on that.
And also we can discuss better support for coexistence of two toolkits
which raised by Mark recently. I will try to figure out the solution in
the following month.
Li
===
* What is at-spi?
===
at-spi (assistive technology service provider interface) is the primary
assistive technology infrastructure for the Solaris and Linux
operating environments. Applications and toolkits supporting the
AT-SPI include the GNOME GTK+
I believe Firefox has a similar problem. To fix it, we created
environment variables (NO_GAIL_ENV and NO_AT_BRIDGE) to tell GAIL and
atk-bridge it is not the time to be loaded. So if applications set
these environment variables, even they call gtk_init(), GAIL and
atk-bridge will not be loaded.
Hi Timothy,
If you can call functions in X library, getting the root window's
property will tell you if accessibility is enabled.
/*--example code-*/
Atom AT_SPI_IOR;
Atom actual_type;
int actual_format;
unsigned char *data = NULL;
unsigned long
I will be there.
Li
Willie Walker wrote:
Hey All:
Who here will be at GUADEC? If you're going, let me know because
there are some accessibility topics that would make for some
opportunistic 'hallway' conversations.
Will
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Hi Timothy,
For Python threads issues, have you followed the suggestions in
http://faq.pygtk.org/index.py?req=showfile=faq20.006.htp ? I think your
way is approach #2 in that page. It is important to wrap main loop and
other gtk functions with gtk.threads_enter()/gtk.threads_leave().
I don't have Debian by my hand. But I think we need label for relation
here.
Li
Jude DaShiell wrote:
I use debian's gnome orca. I was trying to get sound playing after a
successful login before orca starts talking. One of the places I went
was system-sounds-preferences-switches tab. Very
Do you know which process' ID is 4584 on your system?
Li
Jude DaShiell wrote:
You may be right, but when I used the second numbers I was able to
kill those processes.
On Wed, 10 Jun 2009, Li Yuan wrote:
I thought line numbers are followed by the UID. And then the two
lines have the same
Id's right after the line numbers. The line numbers come first
followed by the process ID's.
On Tue, 9 Jun 2009, Li Yuan wrote:
The format of the two lines doesn't match. Do they get a same process
ID?
Li
Jude DaShiell wrote:
The registryd process comes up under two different numbers each
===
* What is at-spi?
===
at-spi (assistive technology service provider interface) is the primary
assistive technology infrastructure for the Solaris and Linux
operating environments. Applications and toolkits supporting the
AT-SPI include the GNOME GTK+
===
* What is atk?
===
The interface definitions of accessibility infrastructure.
* What's changed for atk 1.26.0?
Bug fixes:
Improve the documentation, Sven Herzberg.
Hi Filippo,
Filippo Argiolas wrote:
I believe I fixed it with the last svn commit.
I was looking for the locking issue in the wrong place. It was not the
flash who was failing but the photo-saved callback called right after.
This signal is emitted from a gstreamer callback so it's outside the
Hi Filippo,
I reproduced the bug. I think cheese is hanging. From the trace, I found
10 threads in cheese, but I don't find any accessibility code involved.
I am not familiar with cheese's code so I don't know why there is a
hang. But note that, when accessibility is enabled, a thread could
Willie Walker wrote:
Aha - the plot thickens as the situation becomes clearer. :-)
OK, so it sounds like if there is a substantial amount of work to do
for something(s) related to accessibility where direct contact with
the GTK+ maintainers/developers would be crucial for success, then we
Hi Nolan,
Nolan Darilek wrote:
On Wed, 2009-01-21 at 10:52 +0100, API wrote:
Yes, this cell renderers are part of GTK [1], used a lot on the GtkTreeView [2].
And yes there are a way to get the cell and expose the accessible name, in
fact, this is what happens, but seems that in this
===
* What is at-spi?
===
at-spi (assistive technology service provider interface) is the primary
assistive technology infrastructure for the Solaris and Linux
operating environments. Applications and toolkits supporting the
AT-SPI include the GNOME GTK+
.
on Tuesday 01/13/2009 Li Yuan(li.y...@sun.com) wrote
Hi John,
Seems your at-spi-registryd isn't started. Is you at-spi-registryd built
with XEVIE but X doesn't load that extension?
Regards,
Li
John covici wrote:
Hi. I have a gentoo system using kernel 2.6.27-gentoo-r4
-gtk-doc
--build=i686-pc-linux-gnu
and there is a at-spi-registryd in /usr/libexec .
Now one of the messages I get says:
Xlib: extension XEVIE missing on display :0.0.
How in the heck should I fix this?
on Tuesday 01/13/2009 Li Yuan(li.y...@sun.com) wrote
You can try to build at-spi
Hi Nolan,
I didn't notice serious leak in at-spi-registryd. I will take a look at
it these days.
Nolan Darilek wrote:
I tried checking out the latest at-spi-registryd from subversion. I
use stow to keep all locally-installed stuff separate and removable
from distribution-installed
===
* What is at-spi?
===
at-spi (assistive technology service provider interface) is the primary
assistive technology infrastructure for the Solaris and Linux
operating environments. Applications and toolkits supporting the
AT-SPI include the GNOME GTK+
===
* What is atk?
===
The interface definitions of accessibility infrastructure.
* What's changed for atk 1.25.2?
Bug fixes:
*
===
* What is at-spi?
===
at-spi (assistive technology service provider interface) is the primary
assistive technology infrastructure for the Solaris and Linux
operating environments. Applications and toolkits supporting the
AT-SPI include the GNOME GTK+
===
* What is at-spi?
===
at-spi (assistive technology service provider interface) is the primary
assistive technology infrastructure for the Solaris and Linux
operating environments. Applications and toolkits supporting the
AT-SPI include the GNOME GTK+
for all objects in an application.
Will
On Sat, 2008-11-01 at 16:36 +, Steve Lee wrote:
2008/10/27 Li Yuan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
A way to do this in my mind is to create functions in atkmisc, to tell gail
and other accessibility implementations to send out signal
Willie Walker wrote:
So...to make a long story short, I'd guess most of the work needed is
independent of CORBA/D-Bus and would live in the AT-SPI implementation
for the toolkit (e.g., GAIL). Li Yuan would be a good person to help
us understand the scope of this problem.
A way to do
Steve Lee wrote:
2008/10/22 Aaron Leventhal [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
There is no need for an enable
a11y flag in the OS. Just the fact that something asks us for an accessible
object wakes us up.
We really need lazy instantiation like that under Gnome. If the AT is loaded
and starts
Halim Sahin wrote:
Hi
Sorry Will that does not work for me.
The desktop hangs as described in my previous mail.
Do you have a trace for the gksu at the moment? I suspect this is
because gksu is doing some write() stuff. One reason that
gksuaccessibility hang the desktop is gksu doesn't
===
* What is at-spi?
===
at-spi (assistive technology service provider interface) is the primary
assistive technology infrastructure for the Solaris and Linux
operating environments. Applications and toolkits supporting the
AT-SPI include the GNOME GTK+
===
* What is at-spi?
===
at-spi (assistive technology service provider interface) is the primary
assistive technology infrastructure for the Solaris and Linux
operating environments. Applications and toolkits supporting the
AT-SPI include the GNOME GTK+
===
* What is at-spi?
===
at-spi (assistive technology service provider interface) is the primary
assistive technology infrastructure for the Solaris and Linux
operating environments. Applications and toolkits supporting the
AT-SPI include the GNOME GTK+
Seems svn command failed when I released tarball. There is one now.
Li
Stephen Shaw wrote:
Is there no tag in svn?
Thanks,
Stephen
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Yes, I think so. Just talked to a PolicyKit developer, unlike gksu,
PolicyKit only checks if an application has permission to do something,
but does not require the application running in that permission's
environment. network-admin is currently using PolicyKit. I tried it, it
is accessible.
I took a look at this today. Basically it is accessible, although there
are some bugs. Please refer to
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=545282 and
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=545284. Also, the conversation
history doesn't support caret mode. I remember pidgin has
Willie Walker wrote:
2) gnome-panel keyboard navigation for the notification area is
supposed to be fixed, but I'm still seeing issues on Ubuntu Intreprid
as of yesterday. I'd like people to try to confirm this. For
example, I cannot use the keyboard to navigate to the wireless status
Willie Walker wrote:
I suspect we should probably log a bug/rfe with empathy (I haven't
compiled/run it yet, so I cannot write a good bug report for it) to
allow for better keyboard traversal of the UI if Shift+F6 is not
supported and to also support F7 to enable caret navigation in the
Accessibility is a problem for conduit. The GUI is simple, but the left
tree view doesn't support keyboard navigation well. Also one has to drag
some items to the right sync area, there is no way to do this by
keyboard. And the sync area is not accessible. I suspect accessibility
work is need
===
* What is atk?
===
The interface definitions of accessibility infrastructure.
* What's changed for atk 1.23.5?
Bug fixes:
*
===
* What is gail?
===
GAIL provides accessibility support for gtk+ by implementing
AtkObjects for widgets in gtk+. The GAIL library is a GTK+ module.
* What's changed for gail 1.22.3?
===
* What is at-spi?
===
at-spi (assistive technology service provider interface) is the primary
assistive technology infrastructure for the Solaris and Linux
operating environments. Applications and toolkits supporting the
AT-SPI include the GNOME GTK+
Ginn Chen is going to Istanbul.
Li
Willie Walker wrote:
Hey All:
Just a quick check to see if anyone from the accessibility community is
going to GUADEC 2008 in Istanbul this year.
http://guadec.org
Anyone?
Will
___
What's the version of gnome-session on your system? Is it earlier than
2.17? If so, you need to upgrade your gnome-session to versions later
than 2.17. gnome-session before version 2.17 do not start
at-spi-registryd. If you can not upgrade gnome-session, you can try to
start at-spi-registryd
Hi Gerald,
Gerald Hsiao wrote:
Hi,
I am working on a project which needs accessibility support.
The program works fine on GNOME but fail on Xfce.
A warning message was returned whenever I try to run my program:
AT_SPI_REGISTRY was not started at session startup
Is there any way to enable
===
* What is at-spi?
===
at-spi (assistive technology service provider interface) is the primary
assistive technology infrastructure for the Solaris and Linux
operating environments. Applications and toolkits supporting the
AT-SPI include the GNOME GTK+
Willie Walker 写道:
OK - seems like there's enough of an interest for people to want to have
a formal time to get together versus just 'hanging out' and running into
each other.
Sowe're now back to finding good times for everyone. This is hard
given that we're all over the world:
Hi Mike,
Normally I login from another machine and run gdb remotely (keyboard will not
work if you run gdb and attach at-spi-registryd locally). But I'm not sure if
this is a good idea if you want to attach it for a few months.
Li
Mike Gorse 写道:
Hi all,
I've had at-spi-registryd crash a
===
* What is atk?
===
The interface definitions of accessibility infrastructure.
* What's changed for atk 1.22.0?
Translation update.
=
* Where can I
Hi Yannick,
Yannick PLASSIARD 写道:
Hi here,
I was thinking about AT-SPI several days ago and would like to
ask :
- Which packages or libraries AT-SPI depends on ?
atk, gtk+, gail (now in gtk+), libbonobo.
- Do you think that it would be possible to make a console-application
Hi,
There have been a lot of discussions about the AT-SPI over DBus Feasibility
Study. Seems to me that there is something need to implement in DBus and a
lot of things need to be coordinated between accessibility infrastructure
and DBus. It would be great that we can find someone who has DBus
Great program! It will definitely bring better accessibility support for
GNOME.
I'd like to help people who participate the program and need support from
accessibility infrastructure.
Li
2008/2/27, Behdad Esfahbod [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
GNOME Foundation Announces Program to Sponsor Accessibility
===
* What is atk?
===
The interface definitions of accessibility infrastructure.
* What's changed for atk 1.21.92?
Bug fixes: #508846
Hi Will,
I am always doing bugs triage for infrastructure modules.
Li
On 日, 2008-01-27 at 11:26 -0500, Willie Walker wrote:
Hi All:
The current list of bugs with the 'accessibility' keyword can be found
via the following search (this is the same link under the Help Fix
Bugs header on
===
* What is at-spi?
===
at-spi (assistive technology service provider interface) is the primary
assistive technology infrastructure for the Solaris and Linux
operating environments. Applications and toolkits supporting the
AT-SPI include the GNOME GTK+
===
* What is at-spi?
===
at-spi (assistive technology service provider interface) is the primary
assistive technology infrastructure for the Solaris and Linux
operating environments. Applications and toolkits supporting the
AT-SPI include the GNOME GTK+
===
* What is gail?
===
GAIL provides accessibility support for gtk+ by implementing
AtkObjects for widgets in gtk+. The GAIL library is a GTK+ module.
* What's changed for gail 1.21.5?
===
* What is gail?
===
GAIL provides accessibility support for gtk+ by implementing
AtkObjects for widgets in gtk+. The GAIL library is a GTK+ module.
* What's changed for gail 1.21.5?
On 三, 2007-12-05 at 17:54 -0500, Eric Kostn wrote:
2. within evolution, I am not able to hear the text that I am
backspacing over. Does anyone else have this problem?
I assume you mean the mail body area. Yes, this is a bug for Evolution.
Regards,
Li
===
* What is at-spi?
===
at-spi (assistive technology service provider interface) is the primary
assistive technology infrastructure for the Solaris and Linux
operating environments. Applications and toolkits supporting the
AT-SPI include the GNOME GTK+
===
* What is at-spi?
===
at-spi (assistive technology service provider interface) is the primary
assistive technology infrastructure for the Solaris and Linux
operating environments. Applications and toolkits supporting the
AT-SPI include the GNOME GTK+
===
* What is gail?
===
GAIL provides accessibility support for gtk+ by implementing
AtkObjects for widgets in gtk+. The GAIL library is a GTK+ module.
* What's changed for gail 1.20.1?
===
* What is at-spi?
===
at-spi (assistive technology service provider interface) is the primary
assistive technology infrastructure for the Solaris and Linux
operating environments. Applications and toolkits supporting the
AT-SPI include the GNOME GTK+
===
* What is gail?
===
GAIL provides accessibility support for gtk+ and libgnomecanvas by
implementing AtkObjects for widgets in gtk+ and libgnomecanvas. The
GAIL library is a GTK+ module.
* What's changed for gail
The most use of Bonobo in A11Y infrastructure was activation before
GNOME 2.18, although our idl are based on Bonobo::Unknown. In GNOME2.18
we change the way of activation, so we can remove Bonobo dependency
because it is announced as upcoming deprecation. And also, it creates
the *possibility* of
Hi Bram,
在 2007-08-14二的 23:46 +0200，Bram Duvigneau写道：
Hi all,
I know that the notification area itself isn't accessible yet as
noted
in bug:
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103223
But, it seems that I couldn't even navigate to the area itself in
Ubuntu
Gutsy, is there a
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