Hi all Just picking up on some recent threads.
Like most things in our arena it is down to personal preferance. For myself as a touch typist I favour the adjust in voice tone to indicate the status of the Caps Lock; taking on Dave's point about many fingers on the keyboard whilst away maybe a hot key combination to cycle through the various status of each lock. However, this does not take into account those who may be uncertain in the use of computers who require a more positive feeling about what they are doing; in this case a full announcement would be preferable ie Caps lock on or some such. So in essence there would need to be 3 settings in the verbosity depending on preferance - those being none, tone change, and full announcement. I quite like the tone keys of Dave's but I find my ear is more attuned to the voice than a tone in the background. I reckon the wizard is quite necessary for establishing Personal Interface Guides - well it's the best I can come up with that doesn't include the words profile or preferance! The main reason is that the accessability options would not be needed to be labeled as such but just as enhancements to the user's own profile. The way I would see this working is that the administrator would at Gnome set up create a default PIG; Gnome would then use this PIG to set up a number of PIGs that are specifically attributed to those requiring accessability. The user would then come along and either copy an existing PIG to their own and alter it or have the option to start from scratch. The reason for doing it this way would be the option is there for those who are not in denile to quickly grab a template to work on whilst those who are , or do not beed the facilities can add what they want easily. I think the important thing here is to ensure that whatever the feature / facility is called it does not show that it's operation is only for those requiring accessability functionality. For instance if there were an option for menu text size and highlighting all you would need to show would be standard or large texdt with the bar option of either inverted or bordered. Last comment for Bill / Peter. During the testing of varius apps I presume from the previous postings that it is up to the individual project to test their product? In view of our accessability needs over all GUIs could not the main stream releases be put through a group of people to specifically check for accessability or is that the purpose of the tools you mentioned? Keep up the interesting postings all - if we don't say it no one will know that there are problems with their product and are missing a potential market - ie us. Ian -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Mielke Sent: 30 September 2005 16:22 To: Bill Haneman Cc: gnome-accessibility-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: Gnome and support for the visually impaired [quoted lines by Bill Haneman on 2005/09/30 at 15:54 +0100] >It's not totally clear what the best solution is. If, for instance, we >announced when the CapsLock key changed state, I might not hear the >message or it might have gotten interrupted by some other message. Or, in my case (with 11 of 13 children still at home), any number of people could've changed the state of the key while I'm momentarily away. It'd also be way too inconvenient to have to test the key every time before typing. It's much better to have an on-going indication of the lock states, which, in fact, is exactly what the keyboard LEDs give a sighted user. That's why (see earlier post) I wrote locktones. It really does solve the problem. >If >gnopernicus announced each shift state change, would that be too >annoying? At least I might notice that pressing "shift" was causing >gnopernicus to say "lower case" (for instance) instead of "upper case". I think that announcing state changes like that would get annoying. Every time I start a new sentnece or type a name, I'd have to hear "upercase", "lowercase". Also, when using an application like vi, it's essential to know the state of the caps lock key before any key is ever typed. -- Dave Mielke | 2213 Fox Crescent | I believe that the Bible is the Phone: 1-613-726-0014 | Ottawa, Ontario | Word of God. Please contact me EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Canada K2A 1H7 | if you're concerned about Hell. http://FamilyRadio.com/ | http://Mielke.cc/bible/ _______________________________________________ gnome-accessibility-list mailing list gnome-accessibility-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-accessibility-list _______________________________________________ gnome-accessibility-list mailing list gnome-accessibility-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-accessibility-list