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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave
Mielke
Sent: 30 September 2005 16:22
To: Bill Haneman
Cc: gnome-accessibility-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: Gnome and support for the visually impaired
[quoted lines by Bill Haneman on 2005/09/30 at 15:54 +0100]
It's
Hi Sun folks other listers.
Bill Haneman :
Samuel Thibault wrote:
...
They say open source is not accessible, which is wrong, but what is
true is open source is not yet really accessible.
I do not agree with this assessment.
[snip]
Hey Bill. Just for an experience, please do the
On Thu, 2005-09-29 at 18:27, Sébastien Hinderer wrote:
Hi Sun folks other listers.
Hi Sebastien and all:
Bill Haneman :
Samuel Thibault wrote:
...
They say open source is not accessible, which is wrong, but what is
true is open source is not yet really
Hi Bill,
Congratulations ! You did it !
And it's nearly as well written as what you would produce with eyes
opened, I guess.
My guess is that Gnopernicus' support for speech is much, much better
than what it is for braille, cause I could certainly not do what you did
in braille, I think.
My
hank smith, le Thu 29 Sep 2005 11:25:15 -0700, a écrit :
what is the second screen reader?
orca, I guess.
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hI,
i CAN'T SPEAK FOR BRAILLE SUPPORT, BUT i CAN SSPEAK FOR SPEECH. i HAVE
USED GNGNOPERNICUS FOR MONTHS USING FESTIVAL AS MY SOFTWARE TTS TO GO ON
LINE USING mOZILLA aPRIL 20005 TO BUY AND SELL ON THE LINE, PAY BILLS,
USE EVOLUTION FOR EMAIL, WORK WITH oPENWRITER, AND GEDIT. i USE GAIM FOR
aol
Hi Thomas,
Strange, it seems there is also a case problem in your mail, just like
in the one of Bill.
Concerning gnome's accessibility through gnopernicus:
I can believe very easily that it is possible thanks to a speech
synthesis. However, I don't believe gnopernicus' support for braille is
[quoted lines by Bill Haneman on 2005/09/30 at 16:26 +0100]
Locktones sounds like a good idea. Perhaps it could be implemented in
gnopernicus as what Janina sometimes calls earcons.
Yes, I'm sure that's just the kind of thing she's referring to.
There's no reason
why screenreader audio
Subject: Re: Gnome and support for the visually impaired
On Thu, 2005-09-29 at 18:27, Sébastien Hinderer
wrote:
Hi Sun folks other listers.
Hi Sebastien and all:
Bill Haneman :
Samuel Thibault wrote:
...
They say open source is not accessible, which
Hi:
Orca attempts to address this problem by using a different
voice when speaking uppercase characters/words. The
default is to merely raise the pitch of the normal voice,
but it is configurable to be any voice from any synthesizer
one might want to use.
Will
Bill Haneman wrote On 09/30/05
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Hinderer
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 12:35 PM
To: gnome-accessibility-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: Gnome and support for the visually impaired
Hi Sun folks other listers.
Bill Haneman :
Samuel Thibault wrote:
...
They say open source
Agreed. In an earlier implementation of AccessX, we had
a ToggleKeys feature that would provide an audible indication
when the state of a lockable key changed. I'm sitting behind
an archaic system right now, so I cannot test whether we
rolled this forward into XKB and/or whether the GNOME
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Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 12:35 PM
To: gnome-accessibility-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: Gnome and support for the visually impaired
Hi Sun folks other listers.
Bill Haneman :
Samuel Thibault wrote:
...
They say
Hi Dave,
Many/most Braille users have their hearing, and so your locktones application,
or something like it, makes a lot of sense. But for deaf-blind, or for people
who otherwise want an audio-free environment, do you think some sort of
dot-pattern keyboard status indicator on the Braille
[quoted lines by Peter Korn on 2005/09/30 at 10:58 -0700]
But for
deaf-blind, or for people who otherwise want an audio-free environment, do
you think some sort of dot-pattern keyboard status indicator on the Braille
display would be useful? Though I've heard it is going out of style, many
On Sat, Oct 01, 2005 at 12:52:21AM EST, Sébastien Hinderer wrote:
Hi Thomas,
Strange, it seems there is also a case problem in your mail, just like
in the one of Bill.
Concerning gnome's accessibility through gnopernicus:
I can believe very easily that it is possible thanks to a speech
On Sat, Oct 01, 2005 at 12:54:22AM EST, Bill Haneman wrote:
Hi Dave:
It's not totally clear what the best solution is. If, for instance, we
announced when the CapsLock key changed state, I might not hear the
message or it might have gotten interrupted by some other message. If
Hi Bill,
Here is some user feedback from a user using Gnome, and what I would
like to see access for in htenear and not to distant future.
1. Support for Mozilla firefox. Firefox has become almost the industry
leader in web browsers, and it would be the best choice for the Sun Java
and Gnome
I am a newby to this list and will soon to be a newby to Linux when I
install a Linux distro on my new laptop.
I agree about support for Gnucash because that is one of the applications I
hope to use when I migrate to Linux, Quicken for windows is no longer
available in the UK and MS Money has
The following have emailed Mass. regarding the lack of support in Open Source
for the blind or visually impaired. Do you have any information to the
contrary. If so do you mind informing them of such.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] , [EMAIL PROTECTED] , [EMAIL PROTECTED] ,
[EMAIL
Hi David,
Dave Lister wrote:
The following have emailed Mass. regarding the lack of support in Open
Source for the blind or visually impaired. Do you have any information to the
contrary. If so do you mind informing them of such.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] , [EMAIL PROTECTED] ,
Hi Sun folks other listers.
Bill Haneman :
Samuel Thibault wrote:
...
They say open source is not accessible, which is wrong, but what is
true is open source is not yet really accessible.
I do not agree with this assessment.
[snip]
Hey Bill. Just for an experience, please do the
.
Jason
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Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 12:35 PM
To: gnome-accessibility-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: Gnome and support for the visually impaired
Hi Sun folks other listers.
Bill
, September 29, 2005 7:15 AM
Subject: Re: Gnome and support for the visually impaired
Samuel:
It is vital to our survival that we do not agree too quickly with such
people. We do already have end users who are using gnopernicus to carry
our their daily work; without our existing work
Hi,
Bill is right. We shouldn't sell the Gnome access to short yet. After
all there is work that needs to be done, but we have achieved huge
breakthroughs in access already.
For example, three years ago i could do nothing at all in Gnome. Now,
I daily use Evolution for my email, mozilla as my
Greetings,
There is no doubt that Gnome access is, at the moment, inferior to Windows
access for visually impaired people. However, those of us who were using
computers when Windows started will remember the problems we had then. I,
for one, appreciate very much the work that's being done
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