Re: Proposal to make GnomeLove official and move it to developer.gnome.org

2015-04-21 Thread Magdalen Berns
On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Carlos Soriano Sanchez csori...@redhat.com wrote: Hi Magdalen, Thanks for your kind words. Still people like Allan and other people did a lot of work on this as well. I can provide my feelings when started contributing and personal vision, but they have

Re: Proposal to make GnomeLove official and move it to developer.gnome.org

2015-04-21 Thread Magdalen Berns
Hi Allan, On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 12:17 PM, Carlos Soriano Sanchez csori...@redhat.com wrote: Hi Allan, So if we continue with the wiki, most of the points I pointed before continue to be a problem... New jhbuild/git/whatever tutorials will came up... people won't find the appropriate

Re: Proposal to make GnomeLove official and move it to developer.gnome.org

2015-04-21 Thread Carlos Soriano Sanchez
Hi Allan, Thanks a lot for your feedback, disagreement is the best to reach an agreement =) This is not important I don't feel jhbuidl to me in practice very different. We do the same with git. What I want is creating an assistant (like a GtkAssistant,

Re: Proposal to make GnomeLove official and move it to developer.gnome.org

2015-04-21 Thread Carlos Soriano Sanchez
Hello all, We couldn't reach an agreement and the idea didn't have too much support from long time community members, so I'm dropping this proposal for now and therefore not taking an OPW intern. Thanks all for the feedback and time. Cheers, Carlos Soriano

Re: Proposal to make GnomeLove official and move it to developer.gnome.org

2015-04-21 Thread Carlos Soriano Sanchez
Hi Magdalen, Thanks for your kind words. Still people like Allan and other people did a lot of work on this as well. I can provide my feelings when started contributing and personal vision, but they have the experience. So I won't go alone on this if they don't agree =) That would mean I'm

Re: Proposal to make GnomeLove official and move it to developer.gnome.org

2015-04-21 Thread Carlos Soriano Sanchez
Hi Emmanuele, So for the scope and scale you are right, but I'm trying to higher the scope and scale of building and contributing to GNOME as well. Not to be in par with Gtk+, but enough to deserve to be in the website. You are logically right about Legitimacy is provided by being on the

Re: Proposal to make GnomeLove official and move it to developer.gnome.org

2015-04-21 Thread Carlos Soriano Sanchez
Hi Michael Hill, Whops I misunderstood you. You are right, HowDoI will continue to be like is now. I don't have any intention there. Actually, HowDoI/Jhbuild is so good that it could be in the official Jhbuild documentation instead, as a getting started with jhbuild since HowDoI/Jhbuild is well

Re: Proposal to make GnomeLove official and move it to developer.gnome.org

2015-04-21 Thread Carlos Soriano Sanchez
Hi Allan, So if we continue with the wiki, most of the points I pointed before continue to be a problem... New jhbuild/git/whatever tutorials will came up... people won't find the appropriate one given that the wiki is not official. i.e. people say: it's a wiki, just modify it! Which is true,

Proposal to make GnomeLove official and move it to developer.gnome.org

2015-04-21 Thread Carlos Soriano Sanchez
Hi, So after some work in GnomeLove and discussions in the gnome-love list, I would like to make this proposal. Read more here https://wiki.gnome.org/CarlosSoriano/GnomeLoveMoveTask So I would want to have feedback on this idea over this week, since I will take a intern from OPW for it, and

Re: Proposal to make GnomeLove official and move it to developer.gnome.org

2015-04-21 Thread Carlos Soriano Sanchez
Hi Michael Hill, Didn't you received private messages from newcomers overwhelmed with the different ways on how to contribute a patch? On how to do this or that in git? On how to know the code style? On how to just get the code? Why I have to read multiple tutorials? Because I did. And guides

Re: Proposal to make GnomeLove official and move it to developer.gnome.org

2015-03-20 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, 2015-03-19 at 09:54 -0400, Michael Hill wrote: On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 9:11 AM, Michael Catanzaro mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote: Having multiple conflicting tutorials is confusing to new contributors, and harmful when those two tutorials are incompatible.

Re: Proposal to make GnomeLove official and move it to developer.gnome.org

2015-03-20 Thread Michael Hill
Hi Michael, On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Michael Catanzaro mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote: I'm really thinking of jhbuild specifically here. I don't think this is a more general issue for us. What advantages do you see in this page over GnomeLove/BuildGnome?

Re: Proposal to make GnomeLove official and move it to developer.gnome.org

2015-03-20 Thread Allan Day
Carlos Soriano Sanchez csori...@redhat.com wrote: ... I understand what you mean with removing community maintained, but can be misleading for others. Let me explain: developer.gnome.org is still maintained by the community, but they go through a review process, and gives control to the

Re: Proposal to make GnomeLove official and move it to developer.gnome.org

2015-03-19 Thread Andres G. Aragoneses
On 17/03/15 13:33, Carlos Soriano Sanchez wrote: Hi, So after some work in GnomeLove and discussions in the gnome-love list, I would like to make this proposal. Read more here https://wiki.gnome.org/CarlosSoriano/GnomeLoveMoveTask So I would want to have feedback on this idea over this week,

Re: Proposal to make GnomeLove official and move it to developer.gnome.org

2015-03-19 Thread Michael Hill
On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 9:11 AM, Michael Catanzaro mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote: Having multiple conflicting tutorials is confusing to new contributors, and harmful when those two tutorials are incompatible. Disclaimer: I am not a jhbuild beginner. Please find an example other than jhbuild for

Re: Proposal to make GnomeLove official and move it to developer.gnome.org

2015-03-19 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, 2015-03-19 at 07:17 -0400, Carlos Soriano Sanchez wrote: I finished, and I linked BuildGnome on GnomeLove as the *official* guide. One month after that Ryan Lortie write a full jhbuild guide in HowDoI/Jhbuild because he thought there were no guide for jhbuild! He is a experienced

Re: Proposal to make GnomeLove official and move it to developer.gnome.org

2015-03-19 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, 2015-03-19 at 13:42 +0100, Andres G. Aragoneses wrote: On 17/03/15 13:33, Carlos Soriano Sanchez wrote: Hi, So after some work in GnomeLove and discussions in the gnome-love list, I would like to make this proposal. Read more here

Re: Proposal to make GnomeLove official and move it to developer.gnome.org

2015-03-19 Thread Michael Hill
Hi Carlos, On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Carlos Soriano Sanchez csori...@redhat.com wrote: I am not testing only how a beginner person that came to a hackfest, given a tutorial on jhbuild and fedora distro, how it successfully builds. This is only the tip of the iceberg. Jhbuild is just a

Re: Proposal to make GnomeLove official and move it to developer.gnome.org

2015-03-18 Thread Allan Day
Carlos Soriano Sanchez csori...@redhat.com wrote: ... So after some work in GnomeLove and discussions in the gnome-love list, I would like to make this proposal. Read more here https://wiki.gnome.org/CarlosSoriano/GnomeLoveMoveTask So I would want to have feedback on this idea over this

Re: Proposal to make GnomeLove official and move it to developer.gnome.org

2015-03-18 Thread Emmanuele Bassi
Hi; On 17 March 2015 at 12:33, Carlos Soriano Sanchez csori...@redhat.com wrote: So after some work in GnomeLove and discussions in the gnome-love list, I would like to make this proposal. Read more here https://wiki.gnome.org/CarlosSoriano/GnomeLoveMoveTask So I would want to have

Re: Proposal to make GnomeLove official and move it to developer.gnome.org

2015-03-18 Thread Allan Day
Magdalen Berns m.be...@thismagpie.com wrote: ... New jhbuild/git/whatever tutorials will came up... people won't find the appropriate one given that the wiki is not official. Echo this. The developer.gnome jhbuild instructions are quite misleading because they are not up to date. Yet, this

Re: Proposal to make GnomeLove official and move it to developer.gnome.org

2015-03-18 Thread Allan Day
, Carlos Soriano Sanchez csori...@redhat.com wrote: So if we continue with the wiki, most of the points I pointed before continue to be a problem... New jhbuild/git/whatever tutorials will came up... I'm not sure why this is an issue... it is perfectly acceptable for you to manage the

Re: Proposal to make GnomeLove official and move it to developer.gnome.org

2015-03-17 Thread Daniel Mustieles GarcĂ­a
Completely agree with this idea :) 2015-03-17 16:31 GMT+01:00 Magdalen Berns m.be...@thismagpie.com: +1 On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Carlos Soriano Sanchez csori...@redhat.com wrote: Hi, So after some work in GnomeLove and discussions in the gnome-love list, I would like to make