Re: Meld changing default git branch

[Claude Paroz]

Le 06.09.22 à 00:08, Kai via gnome-i18n a écrit :

Hi all,

Meld has changed its default git branch from master to main (see 
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/meld/-/issues/703 
).


Thanks Kai, l10n.gnome.org was updated.

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Re: String freeze break requests

[Claude Paroz]

Le 03.09.22 à 06:06, Daniel Mustieles García via gnome-i18n a écrit :

1/2 from i18n


2/2. Thanks!

Claude


El vie., 2 sept. 2022 21:36, Carlos Garnacho > escribió:


On Fri, Sep 2, 2022 at 9:05 PM Carlos Garnacho mailto:carl...@gnome.org>> wrote:
 >
 > Hello translators!,
 >
 > There are two merge requests (unrelated between them) that add some
 > new strings, and would be nice to get for GNOME 43:
 >
 > -
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gsettings-desktop-schemas/-/merge_requests/57


 > adds speciific settings for pointing sticks (the red knob in the
 > middle of lenovo laptops)
 >
 > -
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-settings-daemon/-/merge_requests/295

 > adds notifications about applications being closed due to OOM

Oops, make it three:

https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gsettings-desktop-schemas/-/merge_requests/58

,
containing more settings for missing libinput features.

Cheers,
   Carlos

 >
 > Each contains a small number of new translatable strings, it would be
 > nice to get your approvals to get this small niceties ready before
 > GNOME 43 :).
 >
 > Cheers,
 >   Carlos

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Re: Calls to change default branch

[Claude Paroz]

Le 29.08.22 à 11:52, Evangelos Ribeiro Tzaras a écrit :

On Mon, 2022-08-29 at 11:15 +0200, Claude Paroz wrote:

Le 28.08.22 à 21:07, Evangelos Ribeiro Tzaras a écrit :

Hi everyone,

the default branch of calls should be renamed to "main" from "master" [0].
I thought I'd inform you of this pending change
in case this requires some form of coordination
or has other unintended side effects.

Thanks in advance for your reply!

[0] https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/calls/-/issues/490


Thanks, but please tell us when it's done.


I've changed the default branch now.


Thanks, updated!

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Re: Calls to change default branch

[Claude Paroz]

Le 28.08.22 à 21:07, Evangelos Ribeiro Tzaras a écrit :

Hi everyone,

the default branch of calls should be renamed to "main" from "master" [0].
I thought I'd inform you of this pending change
in case this requires some form of coordination
or has other unintended side effects.

Thanks in advance for your reply!

[0] https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/calls/-/issues/490


Thanks, but please tell us when it's done.

Regards,

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Re: Can't submit gnome-nibbles and iagno po files

[Claude Paroz]

Le 29.07.22 à 13:49, Нарт Лӏыша via gnome-i18n a écrit :

Hello,

I can't submit the following files:
1. gnome-nibbles.master.po
2. iagno.master.po

I m getting the following errors:
Screenshot from 2022-07-29 11-01-55.png
Screenshot from 2022-07-29 11-05-50.png
What could be a possible solution?


Could you try again, please?

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Re: Can't commit to repository (Georgian Team)

[Claude Paroz]

Le 07.07.22 à 21:01, Andre Klapper via gnome-i18n a écrit :

On Thu, 2022-07-07 at 22:37 +0400, Zurab Kargareteli wrote:


1. https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gnome-books/master/po/ka/


Note that gnome-books has been archived:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/Archive/gnome-books

Looks like it has not been marked as archived on l10n yet. :(


Oops, done.

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Re: Unable to submit a po file

[Claude Paroz]

Le 07.07.22 à 18:34, Alexandre Franke a écrit :

Hey Claude,

On Thu, Jul 7, 2022 at 6:25 PM Claude Paroz  wrote:

Can you please check now if it is better?


Still failing the same way as described in
https://gitlab.gnome.org/Infrastructure/damned-lies/-/issues/297 for
me.


We may need admin superpowers to solve this!

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Re: Can't commit to repository (Georgian Team)

[Claude Paroz]

Can you please test again for those modules and tell us if some are 
still giving errors?


Claude

Le 06.06.22 à 21:22, Zurab Kargareteli via gnome-i18n a écrit :

Rafael,

I can't submit these files:

https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gnome-books/master/po/ka/
https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gtk-vnc/master/po/ka/
https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/brasero/master/po/ka/
https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gdm/main/po/ka/
https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gnome-menus/master/po/ka/
https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gnome-session/main/po/ka/


Best Regards,
Zurab

On 6/6/22 22:47, Rafael Fontenelle wrote:

Zurab,

What module were you trying to send translations to?

Regards,
Rafael

Em seg, 6 de jun de 2022 15:12, Zurab Kargareteli via gnome-i18n 
 escreveu:


Hello, I can't submit files still. The problem is not fixed ?

An error occurred during applying your action: The commit failed. The
error was: “[Errno 128] Command: "['git', 'push', 'origin',
'master']",
Error: Warning: Permanently added 'gitlab.gnome.org
' (ED25519) to the
list of known hosts. remote: remote:


remote: remote: You are not allowed to push code to this project.
remote: remote:


remote: fatal: Could not read from remote repository. Please make
sure
you have the correct access rights and the repository exists. ”

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Re: At-spi2-core's master branch is now called main

[Claude Paroz]

Le 06.07.22 à 18:53, Federico Mena Quintero via gnome-i18n a écrit :

Dear translators,

The master branch in at-spi2-core has been renamed to main.  Please
update your configuration for Damned Lies, or any other places that may
need it.  Thanks!


Thanks a lot for the notice, Damned Lies updated.

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Re: Unable to submit a po file

[Claude Paroz]

Le 05.07.22 à 10:17, Нарт Лӏыша via gnome-i18n a écrit :

Hello,

We are unable to submit the po file "five-or-more", so we keep getting 
this error message (screenshot below).

Any thoughts on this?


Can you please check now if it is better?

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Re: Inactive modules in fa group

[Claude Paroz]

Le 31.05.22 à 17:07, دانیال بهزادی a écrit :
There are two modules in Persian activity summary which are marked as 
active since 2013, but are removed from DL and I cant access them to 
mark them as inactive.

Modules are:
* GNOME-web-www static content
* GNOME-web-www dynamic content
Persian activity summary:
https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/fa/activity_summary/ 

I removed that module entirely, so you shouldn't find those lines any more.

Keep well,

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Re: New coordinator for Dutch translation team

[Claude Paroz]

Le 26.05.22 à 16:29, Nathan Follens via gnome-i18n a écrit :

Hello everyone

The current coordinator of the Dutch translation team (Hannie) and I have 
agreed for me to take over coordinator duties. Thankfully, Hannie will still 
remain part of the team as a translator.

In case it is needed, at the time of writing, my username on DL is 'nathan', 
with the email address 'nfollens gnome org'.

Please let us know if there are any further steps we should take to enact this 
change.

Thank you once again for your trust, Hannie!


Thanks Hannie and Nathan for you work on Dutch GNOME translations!

I made the change.
Nathan, may I ask you to either remove the Web URL linked to your 
account or point to a real personal Web site?
I can understand you'd like to support RMS, but this is not the place to 
show your support. This Web field is really aimed to give more 
information about you, not for the causes you support. Of course, if you 
have a link to this site from a personal page, it's then totally fine!


Have a nice day,

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GNOME 43

[Claude Paroz]

I just created the new GNOME 43 release on D-L.
Piotr, I guess you will review the list of modules/branches to check if 
it looks correct?


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Re: Stop generating po-properties for gtk

[Claude Paroz]

Le 16.05.22 à 01:23, Sophie Herold a écrit :

Hey,

with the upcoming release GTK 4 will no longer have meta information in 
GObject properties:


https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/merge_requests/4717

I have created a merge request that removes the 'properties' argument 
from the `make-pot` script and deletes all the now unused po-files in 
po-properties:


https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/merge_requests/4718

I guess d-l has to stop calling `./make-pot properties` somewhere?

Thanks for your help in advance!


Thanks Sophie, great job!
Looks like someone already updated D-L to not have this domain any more 
in GTK master.


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Re: String freeze break for gnome-software for 42.1

[Claude Paroz]

Le 25.04.22 à 18:36, Alexandre Franke a écrit :
On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 10:59 PM Philip Withnall > wrote:


Hi all,


Hey!

I had a draft ready on the same day you sent your request, but needed 
clarification. Pinged you in the Hackers room but didn’t get any 
response and then forgot about it.


Can we have a string freeze break for gnome-software to add more
information about file system permissions required by flatpak apps?
[…]

I realise you’re probably not going to be happy about this!


I’m actually happy that you approached this the right way and took us 
into account. Bonus points for the clear presentation and listing the 
strings so we don’t have to hunt them down. The timing is also not the 
worst, so not much to be unhappy about!


  1. Add these new translatable strings now, in time for the 42.1
release (this week). This means the bug will be fixed, but the strings
will likely not be translated in many languages.


That would have been 10 days for three strings that are not too complex, 
at a time when there isn’t much other activity in other modules. Looked 
relatively reasonable. I would not have beent against landing this right 
after you requested it. You said “this week” though, which threw me off. 
Considering you just bumped, I supposed you indeed meant 10 days from 
that date. Anyway, it’s too late for this.


  2. Add these new translatable strings after the 42.1 release, to give
more time for them to be translated ready for 42.2.


This one definitely looks great now.

  3. Don’t add these new strings on 42.x at all, and use the
inappropriate-but-already-existing “can read/write all your data”
string instead.


No, I don’t think this option is necessary at all. Worst case, we can go 
with option 2.


So here is approval 1/2 from i18n for option 2.


Sorry for the lag, approval 2/2,

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Re: gnome-shell.main.pot is incorrect

[Claude Paroz]

Le 26.04.22 à 18:47, Guillaume Bernard a écrit :

Hi all,

First, I have good news, and to prevent duplicating content, I received an
answer from Andra Veri here:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/Infrastructure/Infrastructure/-/issues/816

There will be a migration of the infrastructure in about two weeks that will
make it easier to maintain the infrastructure, with more control from our side
on the images we will deploy and will make it easier to deploy on two
environments: testing and production.

I deployed the new image based on Fedora 34 with an updated gettext here:
https://l10n-testing.openshift.gnome.org

Can you please tell me if everything is okay and then, we’ll probably push the
image to production? Is this idea okay for you Claude?


Yes, looks like this instance has the 0.21 gettext version.
I'd be relieved if you could take the lead for the server side of 
things. Thanks!


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Re: gnome-control-center switched from 'master' to 'main'

[Claude Paroz]

Le 26.04.22 à 20:25, Georges Basile Stavracas Neto via gnome-i18n a écrit :

Just a quick heads up: gnome-control-center has switched the development
branch name from 'master' to 'main'. The master branch has been deleted.

With respect,
Georges


Thanks Georges, l10n.gnome.org was updated (for gnome-calendar, too).

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Re: gnome-shell.main.pot is incorrect

[Claude Paroz]

Le 24.04.22 à 23:47, Michael Catanzaro a écrit :


Reading through the linked issues, nobody has bisected gettext yet to 
identify what changed. That's probably the next step towards getting 
this fixed.


I don't agree with that, we really need a full gettext 0.21 version, not 
a patched 0.19.x version, as there are potentially other improvements.


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Re: gnome-shell.main.pot is incorrect

[Claude Paroz]

Le 24.04.22 à 09:57, Guillaume Bernard a écrit :

Hi,

Using a Debian based image will generate more efforts from our side, as the
system is already running on CentOS 8.


I don't think this is the real issue. D-L was running on Debian during 
years without problem. But AFAIK GNOME sysadmin preference goes to 
Redhat-based distros.



Furthermore, I don’t think we’ll have an
updated version of gettext in Debian repository (did not check yet).


You are wrong, as Yuri stated, gettext on Debian stable is 0.21.

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Re: gnome-shell.main.pot is incorrect

[Claude Paroz]

Le 23.04.22 à 12:43, Guillaume Bernard a écrit :

Hi all,

I’m taking this today as soon as possible. It will probably make difficulties as
the OpenShift image uses CentOS and packages are frozen in CentOS. Which version
of gettext should we target to have the bug fixed in the image?

My recommandation, in order to have a more updated version of packages would be
to use Fedora instead of CentOS. Version in the Fedora repositories is gettext
0.21. We can compile or use a backport repository to have this updated version
in the current image but it would break the KISS principles we need to follow to
have a long-term maintainable system.

Tell me what you think, if we should make the change and try with the new image.
Otherwise, I’ll try to find another solution with gettext compilation for
CentOS.


Thanks Guillaume,

Hopefully Andrea will tell us if using Fedora on OpenShift is an 
acceptable option.

And yes, we would need gettext >= 0.21.

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Re: gnome-shell.main.pot is incorrect

[Claude Paroz]

Le 18.04.22 à 18:51, Alex Melman via gnome-i18n a écrit :
The .pot file is missing some strings of translation. Read more at 
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/-/issues/5126 


We badly need to solve 
https://gitlab.gnome.org/Infrastructure/Websites/-/issues/282, which is 
to install a more recent version of gettext in the OpenShift virtual 
machine created for l10n.gnome.org.


If someone is familiar with Docker and CentOS-like distros, please help!
(work is happening in 
https://gitlab.gnome.org/Infrastructure/damned-lies/-/tree/oscp)


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Re: no response from Georgian coordinator

[Claude Paroz]

Hi Zurab,

You are now the new coordinator for Georgian.
Happy translating!

Claude

Le 17.04.22 à 17:08, Zurab Kargareteli a écrit :

Hello Claude,
If the current coordinator is not active, I would step in.
My friend Temuri Doghonadze and I are working intensively.

https://l10n.gnome.org/users/NorwayFun/ 
<https://l10n.gnome.org/users/NorwayFun/>
https://l10n.gnome.org/users/zur...@gmail.com/ 
<https://l10n.gnome.org/users/zur...@gmail.com/>


On Sat, Apr 16, 2022, 5:46 PM Claude Paroz <mailto:cla...@2xlibre.net>> wrote:


Le 29.03.22 à 19:03, Zurab Kargareteli via gnome-i18n a écrit :
 > Hello, we have uploaded about 14 files translated into Georgian, and
 > there is still no response from the coordinator.
 > Please help to solve this problem.

@Vladimer, still active in Georgian translations?

@Zurab, if the coordinator position were open, would you be interested
in stepping in?

Claude

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Re: no response from Georgian coordinator

[Claude Paroz]

Le 16.04.22 à 15:46, Claude Paroz a écrit :

Le 29.03.22 à 19:03, Zurab Kargareteli via gnome-i18n a écrit :
Hello, we have uploaded about 14 files translated into Georgian, and 
there is still no response from the coordinator.

Please help to solve this problem.


@Vladimer, still active in Georgian translations?


Looks like Vladimer's GNOME email is no longer valid. Does anyone know 
another address for him?


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Re: no response from Georgian coordinator

[Claude Paroz]

Le 29.03.22 à 19:03, Zurab Kargareteli via gnome-i18n a écrit :
Hello, we have uploaded about 14 files translated into Georgian, and 
there is still no response from the coordinator.

Please help to solve this problem.


@Vladimer, still active in Georgian translations?

@Zurab, if the coordinator position were open, would you be interested 
in stepping in?


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Re: Please add GNOME Firmware to DL

[Claude Paroz]

Le 13.04.22 à 10:49, Richard Hughes via gnome-i18n a écrit :

Hey,

I've been asked to add https://gitlab.gnome.org/World/gnome-firmware
to DL. Av moved the gnome-firmware project to World, and I've added
@translations as a Developer in GitLab. I think all that remains is
asking politely to be added to Damned Lies. If anyone is translating
this project for the first time and finds something difficult to
translate, please file an issue and let me know. Thanks!


Hi Richard,

Here it is: https://l10n.gnome.org/module/gnome-firmware/

Many thanks for your attention to translators!

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Re: String freeze break request for gnome-control-center 42.1

[Claude Paroz]

Le 07.04.22 à 13:43, Claude Paroz a écrit :

Easy fix for translators and two weeks before the release should be
plenty of time for it. Here’s approval 1/2 from i18n.


2/2 from i18n.

Claude


Sorry Daniel I missed your mail, then  3/2 :-)

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Re: String freeze break request for gnome-control-center 42.1

[Claude Paroz]

Le 07.04.22 à 11:57, Alexandre Franke a écrit :

On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 7:52 AM Sebastian Keller via gnome-i18n
 wrote:

Hi all,


Hi,


I would like to ask for string freeze break approval for
gnome-control-center 42.1.

There was a typo in one of the strings used in the dropdown menu under
`Privacy->Screen Lock->Automatic Screen Lock Delay` causing the
5 minutes setting to wrongly be displayed as "3 minutes". In addition
to being wrong this also makes it difficult to distinguish from the
actual 3 minutes setting. Fixing this requires changing "3 minutes" to
"5 minutes".


Easy fix for translators and two weeks before the release should be
plenty of time for it. Here’s approval 1/2 from i18n.


2/2 from i18n.

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Re: Unable to commit gnome-terminal translation

[Claude Paroz]

This is another instance of:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/Infrastructure/damned-lies/-/issues/282

Claude

Le 03.04.22 à 14:55, Philipp Kiemle via gnome-i18n a écrit :

Hello!
I undid my last action ("Reserve to submit"), but I can't find the 
action "send to repository" that you mentioned.
I only have "Reserve to submit", "Rework Needed", "undo the last state 
change", "Write a comment", "Inform of submission" and "Archive the 
actions" available. Which one should I pick?


I also went to the gnome-terminal Gitlab [1] and tried filing a MR 
manually, but there seems to be no way to do so.

Philipp

[1] https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-terminal 



Am So., 3. Apr. 2022 um 14:35 Uhr schrieb Rafael Fontenelle 
mailto:rafae...@gnome.org>>:


Hi,

Try undoing the last action and then look for the option of action 
to send to repository.


Best regards,
Rafael

Em dom, 3 de abr de 2022 08:08, Philipp Kiemle via gnome-i18n
mailto:gnome-i18n@gnome.org>> escreveu:

Hello!
I am unable to commit an update to the gnome-42 branch of
gnome-terminal via DL [1]. I do have the rights to commit
translations for other projects, what is the matter here?
Have a nice Sunday,
Philipp

[1]
https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gnome-terminal/gnome-42/po/de/



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Re: Please add 42 release-notes

[Claude Paroz]

Le 23.03.22 à 15:07, Sophie Herold a écrit :

Hey!

I created an emergency-solution to have translations for the release 
notes. The strings are now frozen as well.


The release notes are at 
https://gitlab.gnome.org/Teams/Design/release-notes


- po-homepage contains general homepage strings
- po-42 containts the strings for the 42 release notes

Can someone add this to damned lies?


Hi Sophie,

What's your strategy about branching?

There used to be a branch per release, now I struggle to see any 
structure in existing branches.


Frankly, it looks like all work done by translators in past releases in 
release branches was wiped out. Doesn't look very fair to me.


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Re: Release notes

[Claude Paroz]

Hi all,

I must admit I'm also a bit unmotivated now by those moves which 
consider i18n as an optional part of GNOME.
We've also recently had issues with GTK where some strings cannot be 
extracted with our current infrastructure (1), and that make us feel 
like i18n is really a second-zone citizen of the GNOME world.


I'm not sure I'll continue dedicating my volunteer time in this context. 
But maybe some freesh blood may give a new boost to GNOME i18n, who knows?


(1) https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/4596

Claude

Le 21.03.22 à 17:22, Marek Černocký a écrit :
We have lost the option to translate the main GNOME presentation website 
a few years ago. Now we can not translate Release notes. This is not a 
good way from the translator's point of view. Web have very good I18N of 
the whole GNOME system, but we are not able to present it to users in 
their native language.

:-(

Marek

Rafael Fontenelle píše v Po 21. 03. 2022 v 11:38 -0300:

Hi,

There will be no translation for GNOME 42 Release Notes. It was 
migrated to Markdown and no translation infrastructure is set at the 
moment. See 
https://discourse.gnome.org/t/new-infrastructure-for-gnome-42-release-notes/9063 



Best regards,

On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 11:15 AM Marek Černocký > wrote:

Hi,

where we have a GNOME 42 Release Notes for the translations?

Best Regards
Marek

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Re: Passing over Hungarian L10N coordinator role

[Claude Paroz]

Le 14.03.22 à 10:49, Gabor Kelemen a écrit :

Hi all

Due to changing responsibilities and interest, I'd like to pass over the 
Hungarian localization coordinator role.


Balazs Ur (https://l10n.gnome.org/users/urbalazs/) has been an active 
contributor for several years, and volunteered for taking the lead.



All the best, Balazs!

Gabor Kelemen


Change done.

Gábor, thanks so much for all these years as coordinator, that was so 
precious. Hopefully you'll not go too far away from the GNOME world!


Welcome Balász in your new responsibility. Thanks for being a reminder 
of how to enter acute accents on 'a' letters :-)


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Re: Norwegian translations

[Claude Paroz]

If Kjartan is not responsive at all, then we would need a new candidate 
for Norwegian coordinatorship.


Claude

Le 07.03.22 à 21:32, John Erling Blad via gnome-i18n a écrit :

Also sent a SMS to his listed job-phone, without any reply.

On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 10:18 AM John Erling Blad <mailto:jeb...@gmail.com>> wrote:


I'm the one that contacted Børge Roum, and I have also raised the
question in a few other places. I've heard nothing back except from
Børge.

I also sent an emeil to gnome-no, but that email list seems to be
dead or extremely quitët… https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-no/
<https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-no/>

On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 8:55 AM Claude Paroz mailto:cla...@2xlibre.net>> wrote:

Hi Børge,

Writing to the list was the right thing to do. Hopefully Kjartan
will
answer and tell us more details about the current team status.

In the case he doesn't answer in a reasonable timeframe, you might
discuss between translators if anyone is ready to take more
responsibilities in the team.
And don't stop to continue translating, as your work IS going to be
committed, sooner or later.

Regards,

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Le 01.03.22 à 01:14, Børge A. Roum via gnome-i18n a écrit :
 > Hi. I wanted to help out by translating some more of Gnome
before the 42
 > release. I used l10n.gnome.org <http://l10n.gnome.org>
<http://l10n.gnome.org <http://l10n.gnome.org>> and sent in two
 > translations 1.5 months ago. Since then I've also tried
adding some new
 > translations, but nothing has happened.
 >
 > Another translator contacted me asking if I knew anything
about what's
 > going on. I did not, so I tried contacting the coordinator,
Kjartan
 > Maraas. This was one week ago, and I've heard nothing back. I
tried
 > contacting one of the other active translators and he also
told me that
 > he has also added some new translations without anything
happening.
 >
 > So we are three translators now who are wondering about
what's going on,
 > and we don't get any sign of life from the coordinator. His
link on
 > l10n.gnome.org <http://l10n.gnome.org> goes to a blog that's
not been updated since 2014 and his
 > newest activity on l10n.gnome.org <http://l10n.gnome.org> was
in dec. 2020.
 >
 > What can be done to make sure that our latest translations
will get
 > accepted before the 42 release?
 >
 > Thanks!
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Re: evolution-data-server archived?

[Claude Paroz]

Le 07.03.22 à 11:17, Alexandre Franke a écrit :

Hi,

https://l10n.gnome.org/module/evolution-data-server/ has a banner at
the top claiming that


This module has been archived. It is only kept for statistical purposes. Please 
don’t translate it any more.


Has it really though? It still shows up in the GNOME 42 release set
and https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution-data-server/-/commits/master
shows it’s very much still alive. So what gives?


It's temporary, as the module as POT file issues.
See https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution-data-server/-/merge_requests/78

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Re: [evolution] String freeze break approval plea

[Claude Paroz]

Le 01.03.22 à 14:21, Alexandre Franke a écrit :

On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 2:13 PM Milan Crha via gnome-i18n
 wrote:

 Hi,


Hi,


I'd like to ask for string freeze break approval, due to additional
changes for:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/-/issues/1373


Sure, looks reasonable and it’s still early. Approval 1/2 from i18n.


Agreed, 2/2 from i18n.

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Re: Norwegian translations

[Claude Paroz]

Hi Børge,

Writing to the list was the right thing to do. Hopefully Kjartan will 
answer and tell us more details about the current team status.


In the case he doesn't answer in a reasonable timeframe, you might 
discuss between translators if anyone is ready to take more 
responsibilities in the team.
And don't stop to continue translating, as your work IS going to be 
committed, sooner or later.


Regards,

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Le 01.03.22 à 01:14, Børge A. Roum via gnome-i18n a écrit :
Hi. I wanted to help out by translating some more of Gnome before the 42 
release. I used l10n.gnome.org  and sent in two 
translations 1.5 months ago. Since then I've also tried adding some new 
translations, but nothing has happened.


Another translator contacted me asking if I knew anything about what's 
going on. I did not, so I tried contacting the coordinator, Kjartan 
Maraas. This was one week ago, and I've heard nothing back. I tried 
contacting one of the other active translators and he also told me that 
he has also added some new translations without anything happening.


So we are three translators now who are wondering about what's going on, 
and we don't get any sign of life from the coordinator. His link on 
l10n.gnome.org goes to a blog that's not been updated since 2014 and his 
newest activity on l10n.gnome.org was in dec. 2020.


What can be done to make sure that our latest translations will get 
accepted before the 42 release?


Thanks!

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Re: Freeze break request(s) (was Re: New (hidden) settings translations in totem)

[Claude Paroz]

Hi Bastien,

AFAIK the string freeze did not start yet (Feb 26), so feel free to go 
ahead!


Claude

Le 17.02.22 à 11:25, Bastien Nocera a écrit :

Hey,

As I didn't receive any answers to this mail, I'm resending it with a
new subject line.

I would like to land this:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/totem/-/merge_requests/247
as mentioned in the original message.

As well as this one:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/totem/-/merge_requests/248
which adds a bunch of new shortcuts.

Cheers

On Tue, 2022-02-15 at 13:28 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:

Hey,

I should have landed this earlier, but I got caught up.

This would add 2 new strings that don't need to be translated because
we don't have a UI for it:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/totem/-/merge_requests/247/diffs?commit_id=0ed623b4f1d3c5abfb29d353ac26a8679dd5a6d3

We still don't have a way to mark translations as important/not
important, but this one definitely falls into the latter category.

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Re: Cannot submit bg translation for gnome-control-center via verimus

[Claude Paroz]

Le 15.02.22 à 12:20, Alexander Shopov a écrit :

Whenever I try to submit the translation via
https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/257727/35/ 


I get:

504 Gateway Time-out
The server didn't respond in time.

Any suggestions on what to do?


Hey Alexander,

This can happen depending on the server/disk load, so I would just try 
again in some hours.


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Re: How to contact the coordinator of the Georgian Team ?

[Claude Paroz]

Le 12.02.22 à 17:14, Claude Paroz a écrit :

Le 12.02.22 à 16:35, Zurab Kargareteli via gnome-i18n a écrit :
Hello, what can we do if we can't contact the coordinator of the 
Georgian team and is not responding to our uploads  ?


Writing on this list is a way to do that, keeping the coordinator CC'd.


Looks like his gnome.org address expired. Anyone knowing a working email?


However, I'm not seeing so much uploads on:
https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/ka/activity_summary/

Claude

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Re: How to contact the coordinator of the Georgian Team ?

[Claude Paroz]

Le 12.02.22 à 16:35, Zurab Kargareteli via gnome-i18n a écrit :
Hello, what can we do if we can't contact the coordinator of the 
Georgian team and is not responding to our uploads  ?


Writing on this list is a way to do that, keeping the coordinator CC'd.

However, I'm not seeing so much uploads on:
https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/ka/activity_summary/

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Re: Contacts switched from master to main

[Claude Paroz]

Le 08.02.22 à 09:22, Niels De Graef via gnome-i18n a écrit :

Hi,

Just wanted to let you know that GNOME Contacts is switching from
"master" as the default branch to "main".


Thanks Niels for the notice. Updated.

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Re: Flatpak default branch is now 'main'

[Claude Paroz]

Le 07.02.22 à 20:07, Rafael Fontenelle a écrit :

Hello

According to this tweet[1], master -> main. Please adjust in Damned Lies.


Thanks Raphael, done.

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Re: leaving coordinator position

[Claude Paroz]

Thanks Norayr for letting us know about your current (non-)involvement 
in the Armenian team. I "downgraded" your account from coordinator to 
reviewer, so now it's more clear that the team needs a new coordinator.


Thanks for all your past contributions!

Claude

P.S. Don't be surprised if at some point your account is deleted on 
l10n.gnome.org if you remain inactive, as we are regularly purging 
inactive accounts, it's not personal :-) Just re-create a new one if needed!


Le 04.02.22 à 16:27, նորայր via gnome-i18n a écrit :

Hello, everyone!

I found out recently, from the Andre Klapper email, that I am still 
listed as a coordinator of Armenian language translations of GNOME 
environment.


I remember contributing pretty big amount during GNOME2 times, it was an 
important experience for me, and also fun, however I don't see myself as 
a coordinator anymore.


As E-Hayk LLC also participated translations, I also know their 
translation related work in other FLOSS projects, I'd like to suggest 
someone from E-Hayk to take the position of coordinator.


I have added Samvel to CC list.

I also recovered my old address that is listed on this page: 
https://l10n.gnome.org/teams/hy/ and added that email to the CC list as 
well.


I appreciate GNOME and GTK+, thank you!

I'd like still to remain a team member, and maybe will contribute more 
translations in free time, but not very soon.


Thank you!

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Re: New team for Santali ([sat])

[Claude Paroz]

Here you are: https://l10n.gnome.org/teams/sat/

Happy translating!

Claude

Le 31.01.22 à 14:58, Prasanta Hembram via gnome-i18n a écrit :

Hi, Myself Prasanta Hembram. I want to help translate GENOME in the
Santali language. I have some team members who will help me with this
work. I request you to include our Santali Team for this task. I want
to lead this team for proper coordination.

Santali Team: https://translations.launchpad.net/+languages/sat


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Re: [libhandy] Default branch rename

[Claude Paroz]

Le 20.01.22 à 13:30, Alexander Mikhaylenko via gnome-i18n a écrit :

Hi all,

Heads up, the default branch for libhandy has been renamed from master 
to main.


Thanks for the notice, l10n.gnome.org updated.

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Re: [DL]String additions to 'glib.glib-2-70'

[Claude Paroz]

Le 20.01.22 à 14:00, Alexandre Franke a écrit :

On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 11:55 AM Philip Withnall  wrote:

Oops, I didn’t notice this backport was a string freeze break. The new
string is an error message which is very unlikely to be seen by users.

Options are:
  - Unmark the string for translation and always display the error
message in English


Untranslated strings that can not be translated are always worse than
untranslated strings because the work has just not been done. Please
don’t do that, ever.


  - Leave the string marked as translatable, and be happy with the fact
that most translators probably won’t update it and it will be
displayed in English


Happy is not the term I would use, but I can live with it. Let’s call
this an exception plea and here is 1/2 from i18n.


In fact, glib is historically not subject to the string freeze, even if 
we let the breakage mail appear on this list to let translators informed.


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Re: Please add squeekboard project

[Claude Paroz]

Le 08.12.21 à 09:38, Guido Günther a écrit :

Hi,
squeekboard is the On Screen Keyboard used with
Phosh on mobile devices:

   https://gitlab.gnome.org/World/Phosh/squeekboard

It would be great if it could be added as a translation project since there
is a handful of user facing strings.

Would that be possible? I have already added the i18n user as member to
the gitlab project.


Sorry for the delay: https://l10n.gnome.org/module/squeekboard/


Speaking of phosh (and not sure if this is known): the CI pipeline
produces screenshots in different locales so one can see the translation
work in action without even installing the software, e.g.:

 
https://gitlab.gnome.org/guidog/phosh/-/jobs/1659950/artifacts/browse/screenshots/


That's great, thanks! What determine which language has screenshots?

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Re: GTK is changing development branches

[Claude Paroz]

Le 30.11.21 à 00:24, Matthias Clasen via gnome-i18n a écrit :

Hi all,

GTK is changing its main development branch from master to main.


Thanks Matthias for the notice. l10n.gnome.org updated.

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Re: [kgx] default branch master → main

[Claude Paroz]

Le 19.11.21 à 22:46, Zander Brown a écrit :

Hey All,

We've jumped on board the `main` train and `master` will disappear in some way
soon


Thanks Zander for the notice. Updated.

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Shortcuts in DL workflow

[Claude Paroz]

Dear translators,

Following the issue opened by Yaron [1] about DL, I'd like to suggest 
some modifications to the traditional Web translation workflow:


- Allow to submit a translation or a review directly without passing 
through the reserve step. The reserve step still remains, of course, but 
would be optional.


- Allow a committer to Submit to repository as soon as a .po file is 
available in the workflow, without requiring a review or a Ready for 
submit action.


This would shorten the minimal number of required form submits to 2 
(upload the translation / submit to repository).


What do you think about this. I have the feeling that it would be an 
answer to a concern that several coordinators have expressed in the 
past, especially for smaller teams.


Kind regards,

Claude

[1] https://gitlab.gnome.org/Infrastructure/damned-lies/-/issues/268
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Re: Please add libcall-ui project

[Claude Paroz]

Sorry for the delay:

https://l10n.gnome.org/module/libcall-ui/

Claude

Le 24.10.21 à 14:15, Rafael Fontenelle a écrit :

TP coordinators,

I believe Guido's request is still pending.

Regards,
Rafael Fontenelle

Em sex, 15 de out de 2021 15:22, Guido Günther > escreveu:


Hi,
libcall-ui builds some common infrastructure for phone call user
interfaces (currently used by phosh and soon calls):

https://gitlab.gnome.org/World/Phosh/libcall-ui/


It would be cool if that could be added as a translation project
since there
are some user facing strings.

Would that be possible?

Cheers,
  -- Guido

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Re: Translation category overhaul

[Claude Paroz]

I would love to get some input from the senior members of this list on 
the ticket, please.


https://gitlab.gnome.org/Infrastructure/damned-lies/-/issues/266

Claude

Le 27.09.21 à 21:25, Sophie Herold a écrit :

Since I'm always interested in advancing the app reorganization and
presentations, like on apps.gnome.org, I would like to propose a new
*GNOME Circle* category (release set) for Damned Lies.

@afranke told me that it would be helpful to have a concept of how a new
category together with a cleanup/overhaul of categories could help with
the giant 50.000 strings main category. So I took a deep dive into the
modules, created some .ods-sheets, and came up with the proposal below.

I tried to align the proposal with the “Foundation Policy on Official
GNOME Software” SoftwarePolicy. Note, that the current category
structure violates this policy by branding a lot of software as “GNOME”
while it is not part of Core or Circle.

I would like to know if this looks like a good direction and how we
could proceed on this.

Best,
Sophie

| Module |    Strings | Description 
     |
| -- | -: | 
 |
| **GNOME 42 – Core**    | **25.000** | All Core modules except 
“core-developer-tools”   |
| • *Essentials* |    *8.000* | Subset with shell, 
Settings, Files, Web, and viewer apps |
| • *Non-Essentials* |   *17.000* | The remaining Core 
components    |
| **GNOME 42 – Developer Tools** |  **7.000** | 
   |
| • *Apps*   |    *2.000* | Builder etc. 
   |
| • *Library Properties* |    *5.000* | Translated object 
properties |
| GNOME Circle   |  2.000 | 
     |
| Games  |  3.000 | 
     |
| Evolution  |  6.000 | 
     |
| Other Applications | 54.000 | Previously “Extra GNOME 
Applications”    |


(All numbers are estimates and may change for various reasons. This
table is also available in a [GitLab] issue that I created.)

## Give smaller and new translation teams a way to focus

Estimated reduction of the number of strings by about 50%, from 50.000
to 25.000 strings, in the “GNOME 42 – Core” category. Additionally, an
“Essentials” sub-category provides a more realistic translation goal.

## More visibility for GNOME Circle apps

Translators that want to translate Circle apps, currently have to look
up what apps are part of Circle. Also, this again provides another
translation goal that is smaller than just the complete “Extra GNOME
Applications” category.

## Potential fallout

Examples for apps that would currently stay in “Other Applications” and
therefore could be treated with less priority:

  - geary
  - gthumb
  - pitivi
  - rhythmbox
  - shotwell

Examples for apps that would move out of “GNOME 42”:

  - evolution → “Evolution”
  - gnome-todo → “Other Applications”
  - gnome-tweaks → “Other Applications”
  - polari → “Circle”
  - gnome-builder → “GNOME 42 – Developer Tools”

[SoftwarePolicy]: https://wiki.gnome.org/Foundation/SoftwarePolicy
[GitLab]: https://gitlab.gnome.org/Infrastructure/damned-lies/-/issues/266

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Re: New genius release to happen

[Claude Paroz]

genius is one of the few left modules whose help build system uses the 
obsolete xml2po.


https://gitlab.gnome.org/Infrastructure/damned-lies/-/issues/228

You should really migrate to itstool and I'm sure the GNOME docs team 
would be glad to help you make the switch.


Claude

Le 18.10.21 à 07:57, Daniel Mustieles García via gnome-i18n a écrit :

There is a problem with the help's PO file:

xml2po -o /git/genius/help/C/genius-help.pot -e C/legal.xml 
C/genius.xml
Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "/usr/bin/xml2po", line 191, inmain(sys.argv[1:]) File "/usr/bin/xml2po", line 160, in main xml2po_main 
= Main(default_mode, operation, output, options) File 
"/usr/lib/python3.6/site-packages/xml2po/__init__.py", line 559, in 
__init__ self.out = file(output, 'w') NameError: name 'file' is not defined


Could you please review it?

Thanks!


El dom, 17 oct 2021 a las 23:52, Jiri Lebl via gnome-i18n 
(mailto:gnome-i18n@gnome.org>>) escribió:


Just a heads up, I plan to make a new genius release by end of next
week (thursday or friday perhaps).  Not too many string changes, but
just a heads up.

Best,

Jiri

-- 
Jiri (George) Lebl, http://math.okstate.edu/people/lebl/

 or http://www.jirka.org/


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Re: Add Metronome

[Claude Paroz]

Le 16.10.21 à 08:12, Adrien Plazas a écrit :
The branch is correct, is there something I have to do on the app's repo 
to allow commits from Damned Lies?


Yes, allow the translations user to commit (Developer role).

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Re: String Freeze For Solanum

[Claude Paroz]

Le 15.10.21 à 23:11, Christopher Davis a écrit :
My application Solanum (https://gitlab.gnome.org/World/Solanum 
) is going into a 1-week string 
freeze, ending at 12:00 AM PT on Friday, October 22.

Recently I have added strings for timer settings.


Hi Christopher,

Looks like POTFILES.in needs an update.
https://l10n.gnome.org/module/solanum/

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Re: Add Metronome

[Claude Paroz]

Le 12.10.21 à 11:40, Adrien Plazas via gnome-i18n a écrit :

Hi!

I'd like to get https://gitlab.gnome.org/World/metronome/ on Damned 
Lies. :)


Hi Adrien,

Here we go: https://l10n.gnome.org/module/metronome/

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Re: New default branch for libgweather

[Claude Paroz]

Le 15.10.21 à 11:34, Emmanuele Bassi via gnome-i18n a écrit :

Hi all;

the libgweather repository now uses the "main" branch as its default 
development branch.


The main development branch will be used for GNOME 42.


Thanks Emmanuele for the notice, l10n.gnome.org updated.


The stable branch for GNOME 41 is libgweather-3.


Is there any reason to depart from the more traditional gnome- 
numbering scheme?


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Re: git repository migrations

[Claude Paroz]

Le 01.10.21 à 21:10, Christian Hergert a écrit :

GNOME/gnome-text-editor
GNOME/jsonrpc-glib
GNOME/template-glib
GNOME/gnome-builder

have all been migrated from "master" to "main" and may need updating in 
l10n scripts.


Thanks a lot Christian for the notice. l10n.gnome.org updated.

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Re: gdm and gnome-session dropped master branch

[Claude Paroz]

Le 01.10.21 à 10:39, Alexander Shopov a écrit :
На пт, 1.10.2021 г. в 9:44 ч. Ray Strode > написа:


hey guys,

just a heads up,.gnome-session and gdm now use "main" instead of
"master" for their main branches

>
> Is this handled via vertimus for translation?

If that was your question, this should (hopefully) not disturb current 
workflows in vertimus.


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Re: gdm and gnome-session dropped master branch

[Claude Paroz]

Le 01.10.21 à 04:03, Ray Strode a écrit :

hey guys,

just a heads up,.gnome-session and gdm now use "main" instead of 
"master" for their main branches


Many thanks for the notice, l10n.gnome.org updated.

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Re: Outdated information regarding calls and phosh

[Claude Paroz]

Le 21.09.21 à 10:38, Guido Günther a écrit :

Hi,
I noticed that e.g.

https://l10n.gnome.org/languages/it/librem5/ui/

says:


The modules of this release are not part of the GNOME Git
repository. Please check each module’s web page to see where to send
translations.


While this is still true for chatty both phosh and calls live on GNOME
git nowadays:

https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/calls
https://gitlab.gnome.org/World/Phosh/phosh

I looked around in git if can find where to change that but didn't spot
the source. Can do anything to get that updated?


This is related to a database setting that I just updated, so should be 
fixed now.


Have a nice day,

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Re: malcontent renamed master branch to main

[Claude Paroz]

Le 17.09.21 à 17:38, Philip Withnall a écrit :

Hi all,

Heads up: malcontent’s master branch has been renamed to main.

https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pwithnall/malcontent/-/branches


Thanks for the notices, malcontent (and libgdata) updated.

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Re: gnome-devel-docs translation

[Claude Paroz]

Le 10.09.21 à 00:34, Andika Triwidada via gnome-i18n a écrit :

Hi Claude,

Not sure if this is a problem or not.

Those gnome-devel-docs are not in GNOME 41 Documentation section anymore,
but they are still in GNOME 40 and GNOME 3.38's Documentation section.


I was not completely sure either about that, maybe others can chime in. 
Does it makes sense to keep those links for statistical/historical purposes?


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Re: gnome-devel-docs translation

[Claude Paroz]

Thanks for this information.

The module has been obsoleted on l10n.gnome.org, but it will stay for 
some time for historical and statistics purposes.


Claude

Le 09.09.21 à 12:51, Emmanuele Bassi via gnome-i18n a écrit :

Hi Rafael;

yes, gnome-devel-docs can be dropped from DL. Thanks for reminding me 
that I'll need to ask for it to be archived as well.


Ciao,
  Emmanuele.

On Thu, 9 Sept 2021 at 11:23, Rafael Fontenelle > wrote:


Hello,

As you may know, https://developer.gnome.org/
 has now a new face and contents, not
translatable, while its old content is in
https://developer-old.gnome.org/ 

Having that said, is gnome-devel-docs translation is still
used/worth translating? If not, can we drop from Damned Lies?

https://l10n.gnome.org/module/gnome-devel-docs/


Best regards,
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Re: String freeze break exception request for gnome-control-center

[Claude Paroz]

2/2

Claude

Le 06.09.21 à 15:57, Daniel Mustieles García via gnome-i18n a écrit :

1/2 from i18n

Regards

El lun, 6 sept 2021 a las 15:54, Felipe Borges (>) escribió:


Hi,

The Keyboard settings user interface in GNOME Settings has changed and
we forgot to update the panel's desktop file.

This merge-request addresses this
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-center/-/merge_requests/1051


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Re: gnome-software string freeze break approval plea

[Claude Paroz]

Le 03.09.21 à 08:34, Daniel Mustieles García via gnome-i18n a écrit :
Technically this is not a freeze break since no new strings are added so 
you can go ahead with it.


Wow, wow, wow :-) That's not true. Changing a string is also a break!

I would tend to add my approval, though. 1/2

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Re: [gnome-music] string change

[Claude Paroz]

Le 28.08.21 à 10:52, Mart Raudsepp a écrit :

Ühel kenal päeval, L, 28.08.2021 kell 09:02, kirjutas Claude Paroz:

Le 27.08.21 à 23:48, Marinus a écrit :

Hey list,

there was a minor string change in gnome-music in
gnomemusic/widget/albumwidget.py :

old: "{}, {} minute", "{}, {} minutes"
new: "{} minute", "{} minutes"

That's all for today and thank you for your work.


Hi Marinus,

We are now in string freeze mode, not in string change announcement
mode, so you didn't follow the right process.
You have to request a string freeze break, and commit when it has been
approved.
https://wiki.gnome.org/TranslationProject/HandlingStringFreezes

Please follow the rules for the happiness of all :-)


According to the schedule found at https://wiki.gnome.org/FortyOne
the string freeze starts at 28th August 23:59 UTC, until which we still
have ca 15 hours to go at this time.

String change announcement period had started 14th August, 23:59 UTC.


So looks like this mail was sent three days early?
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/devel-announce-list/2021-August/msg3.html

Sorry, and thanks for the announcement!

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Re: [gnome-music] string change

[Claude Paroz]

Le 27.08.21 à 23:48, Marinus a écrit :

Hey list,

there was a minor string change in gnome-music in 
gnomemusic/widget/albumwidget.py :


old: "{}, {} minute", "{}, {} minutes"
new: "{} minute", "{} minutes"

That's all for today and thank you for your work.


Hi Marinus,

We are now in string freeze mode, not in string change announcement 
mode, so you didn't follow the right process.
You have to request a string freeze break, and commit when it has been 
approved.

https://wiki.gnome.org/TranslationProject/HandlingStringFreezes

Please follow the rules for the happiness of all :-)

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Re: [HELP] cannot reach translation team Burmese coordinator

[Claude Paroz]

Le 24.08.21 à 11:48, Zayar Lwin via gnome-i18n a écrit :

I have translated and submitted the po files to l10n dot gnome dot org.
But the coordinator who have to push po files to git repo have been 
inactive for a while.

So I like to become a commitor for Team Burmese.
Please give me guidance.


Hi Zayar,

Looking at your team page and your personal activity, I see your started 
contributing less than a week ago. Take into account that coordinators 
are volunteers and cannot always react immediately.
So please, have a bit patience. If Russell doesn't react within a month, 
then maybe you can start worrying :-)


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Re: libadwaita showing as if there were no translatable strings

[Claude Paroz]

Le 17.08.21 à 13:57, Rafael Fontenelle a écrit :
See the attached screenshot I captured in 
https://l10n.gnome.org/module/libadwaita/ 
. It is available only for 
authenticated users, but I'm not sure what role is required to see this.


The logic to enable that button is here:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/Infrastructure/damned-lies/-/blob/master/stats/views.py#L315

So either a coordinator or a member of the coordination team (which can 
change module definitions).


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Re: Stepping down as Persian coordinator

[Claude Paroz]

Le 02.08.21 à 18:33, mousavi.arash--- via gnome-i18n a écrit :

Hello,

I've been the Persian coordinator for a very long time (more than 11
years I believe), but in the past couple of releases I didn't have
time or energy to do much and most of the work was done by Danial, so
it seems like a good time to step down.

Danial[1] has proved to be a reliable person in terms of the effort he
puts on his work and I'm happy to introduce him as a successor.

I will continue helping Gnome by other means (only monthly donations
at this point). Best of luck to Danial and Gnome and all its team
members.

Best,
Arash

[1] https://l10n.gnome.org/users/danialbehzadi/


Hi Arash,

Thanks a lot for all those years acting as Persian coordinator. Your 
contributions were really appreciated.


Keep well,

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Re: phosh moves to GNOME World

[Claude Paroz]

Le 03.08.21 à 16:56, Zander Brown a écrit :

Seems the module was already updated, though it does report an error with
intltool


I guess intltool has issues with the "subprojects/**" line in 
POTFILES.skip. If only we had a new tool to check for forgotten files in 
POTFILES files... or should we abandon this check?


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Re: Unable to commit translation

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Le 26.07.21 à 17:04, Rafael Fontenelle a écrit :

Hi Claude

Em seg, 26 de jul de 2021 11:51, Claude Paroz <mailto:cla...@2xlibre.net>> escreveu:


Le 26.07.21 à 16:04, Abderrahim Kitouni via gnome-i18n a écrit :
 > Hi,
 >
 > Le lun. 26 juil. 2021 à 12:03, Philipp Kiemle via gnome-i18n
 > mailto:gnome-i18n@gnome.org>> a écrit :
 >>
 >> Hello!
 >>
 >> When I want to commit the German translation of gnome-software
(https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gnome-software/master/po/de
<https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gnome-software/master/po/de>), this
error message pops up:
 >>
 >> [Errno 1] Command: "['git', 'push', 'origin', 'master']", Error:
Warning: Permanently added 'gitlab.gnome.org
<http://gitlab.gnome.org>,172.31.2.39' (ECDSA) to the list of known
hosts. remote: GitLab: You are not allowed to create protected
branches on this project. To
gitlab.gnome.org:GNOME/gnome-software.git ! [remote rejected] master
-> master (pre-receive hook declined) error: failed to push some
refs to 'gitlab.gnome.org:GNOME/gnome-software.git'
 >>
 >> This has been the case for almost two weeks now... What is the
issue here?
 >
 > The issue is that gnome-software no longer has a `master` branch.
 > Damned lies needs to be configured to use the `main` branch instead.
 > It's possible that such modification has been done, but some cached
 > files still reference the old branch name.
 >
 > HTH,

Yes, this helps, but it would have helped even more if this list would
have been noticed about that changed branch name before.

I guess this same story will repeat a lot during the next months :-/

Hopefully noone will find any bad meaning in the "main" name
sooner or later

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It was notified, but it got lost. Maybe the best would be to have this 
info posted in the issue tracker instead.


I stand corrected.
Sorry, I sometimes feel a bit burned out, especially for those sort of 
changes that bring so few value to the project.


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Re: Unable to commit translation

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Le 26.07.21 à 16:04, Abderrahim Kitouni via gnome-i18n a écrit :

Hi,

Le lun. 26 juil. 2021 à 12:03, Philipp Kiemle via gnome-i18n
 a écrit :


Hello!

When I want to commit the German translation of gnome-software 
(https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gnome-software/master/po/de), this error 
message pops up:

[Errno 1] Command: "['git', 'push', 'origin', 'master']", Error: Warning: 
Permanently added 'gitlab.gnome.org,172.31.2.39' (ECDSA) to the list of known hosts. remote: 
GitLab: You are not allowed to create protected branches on this project. To 
gitlab.gnome.org:GNOME/gnome-software.git ! [remote rejected] master -> master 
(pre-receive hook declined) error: failed to push some refs to 
'gitlab.gnome.org:GNOME/gnome-software.git'

This has been the case for almost two weeks now... What is the issue here?


The issue is that gnome-software no longer has a `master` branch.
Damned lies needs to be configured to use the `main` branch instead.
It's possible that such modification has been done, but some cached
files still reference the old branch name.

HTH,


Yes, this helps, but it would have helped even more if this list would 
have been noticed about that changed branch name before.


I guess this same story will repeat a lot during the next months :-/

Hopefully noone will find any bad meaning in the "main" name 
sooner or later


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Re: Mutter, shell + shell extensions main branch

[Claude Paroz]

Le 19.07.21 à 00:26, Florian Müllner a écrit :

Hello again!

After switching the development branch for Polari went well, we went 
ahead and switched mutter, gnome-shell and gnome-shell-extensions as 
well (from "master" to "main").

Cheers, Florian


Thanks for the notice, l10n.gnome.org updated.

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Re: calls move to GNOME

[Claude Paroz]

Le 13.07.21 à 15:46, Guido Günther a écrit :

Hi,
I hope this is the right place to spread the news:

calls (https://l10n.gnome.org/module/calls/) is moving to GNOME
infrastructure at https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/calls so that extra MRs
to Purism's gitlab are not longer necessary for this project.

It would be great if the URL could be adjusted for that module.


Thanks Guido for the notice, the URL is now pointing to the GNOME 
infrastructure.


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Re: Polari main branch

[Claude Paroz]

Le 14.07.21 à 00:22, Florian Müllner a écrit :

Hey y'all,

just a quick heads up that I switched the development branch in polari
from "master" to "main".


Thanks for the notice, l10n.gnome.org updated accordingly.

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Re: New default branch for Devhelp

[Claude Paroz]

Le 10.07.21 à 17:02, Emmanuele Bassi via gnome-i18n a écrit :

Hi all;

I have just changed the default development branch of Devhelp from 
"master" to "main".


The "master" branch still exists, while we update the various bits of 
infrastructure that reference it, but any translations of the 
development version of Devhelp should happen on the "main" branch from 
now on.


After the beta release scheduled for August 14th, I will delete the 
"master" branch from the repository.


Thanks for the notice, l10n.gnome.org updated accordingly.

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Re: [Request] Apply for a coordinator

[Claude Paroz]

Hi Danishka,

If you are available to review any new contribution, I think it's fine 
if you remain the coordinator.


Otherwise, it would be great if you could train Udesh until he's ready 
to commit translations of acceptable quality, then transfer 
coordinatorship at some later time.


Udesh, you should also try to follow the standard workflow on 
l10n.gnome.org, that is to "Reserve a translation", then "Upload the 
translation (instead of pushing translations in a simple comment.

(see also https://l10n.gnome.org/static/img/workflow-translation.png)
And unless you have a specific reason to partially translate a module, 
you should ideally push 100% translated files.


Regards,

Claude

Le 21.06.21 à 17:46, Danishka Navin a écrit :

Hi Claude,

I have no objection on someone becoming as a coordinator.

Whoever becoming a coordinator should have at least basic idea of 
localization standards.



Hi Udesh,

Please review your files before uploading to any project, not just gnome.
For example, you have translated January as දුරුතු instead of ජනවාරි (which 
we use as the standard Sinhala term/word for the month of January.) [1],[2]
Now, if you produce a short version of months in Sinhala, no one can 
recognize the list. I hope you understand my point.


Localization of gnome or any other project/application should not 
introduce conflicts with existing applications and other content. For 
example, Ubuntu [3]


Let's say a student reading an announcement from the Ministry of 
Education for starting new school term. Ministry is referring to 2021 
ජනවාරි 01, but your calendar has a different label for the month of 
January as දුරුතු.


[1] https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/diff/807348/0/0/ 
<https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/diff/807348/0/0/>
[2] https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/diff/802343/0/0/ 
<https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/diff/802343/0/0/>
[3] 
http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/cosmic/man3/DateTime::Locale::si_LK.3pm.html 
<http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/cosmic/man3/DateTime::Locale::si_LK.3pm.html>



I wish you all the best!

Regards,
Danishka





On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 12:06 PM Claude Paroz <mailto:cla...@2xlibre.net>> wrote:


Le 26.05.21 à 07:12, Udesh Imalka a écrit :
 > Hello Gnome,
 >
 > Our current coordinator for sinhala language isn't active and
team page
 > details etc are outdated. Can you set-up new coordinator for that
 > language using below details? Kindly do not remove existing
person; i
 > have noticed some teams have multiple coordinators. eg:
 > https://l10n.gnome.org/teams/pt_BR/
<https://l10n.gnome.org/teams/pt_BR/>
<https://l10n.gnome.org/teams/pt_BR/
<https://l10n.gnome.org/teams/pt_BR/>>
 > Email: ud...@yalu.lk <mailto:ud...@yalu.lk> <mailto:ud...@yalu.lk
<mailto:ud...@yalu.lk>>
 > Gnome ID: udesh

Udesh, great proposal, however I don't see you as a translator in the
team. That would be a first step, along with some translation
uploads on
the site.

Danishka, it would be awesome if you could confirm that request and
tell
us if you are interested to continue coordinating the team or not.

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Fresh blood for Damned Lies

[Claude Paroz]

Dear team,

I'd like to announce that Guillaume Bernard kindly approached me to 
propose his help regarding Damned Lies evolution and maintenance. He has 
a good experience in the Python/Django world and already pushed some 
interesting patches.


I'll let him present his plans on this list. This does not mean I will 
suddenly disappear, but I will probably be a bit less present as I don't 
want to be a hurdle for fresh ideas and progresses.


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Re: Does Translation auto merge between default, stable, old stable releases?

[Claude Paroz]

Le 29.05.21 à 14:20, Yuri Chornoivan via gnome-i18n a écrit :

Please calm down a bit.

We have witnessed at least several cases of the "blast from the past" since
GNOME 40 release when the translations from "master" were suddenly replaced by
the translations from the "old old stable" (these translations were actually
used in the release). Those translations have not been shown on the main page
until the "hidden" stable branch were created. It's a matter of fact.


Hi Yuri,

Do you have any real case we could use as an example for this odd 
behavior (which at first looks more like a bug than a structural issue)?

Are there other discussion threads where this was discussed elsewhere?

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Re: Soon branching gimp-help module into origin/gimp-help-2-10

[Claude Paroz]

Le 22.05.21 à 18:56, Jehan Pagès via gnome-i18n a écrit :

Hello translators!

Just a heads-up. Unless something comes up (we also sent an email to 
documenters and devs about the topic to make sure it's alright), we plan 
to branch the gimp-help module into `origin/gimp-help-2-10` within 2 
weeks (so likely around the June 5/6 weekend): 
https://l10n.gnome.org/module/gimp-help/ 



Documentation and translation for GIMP 2.10 will continue inside this 
new branch. The `master` branch will move on to be about future GIMP 3.0 
from this point onward.


As I am guessing it will require some action on Damned Lies website to 
handle both the gimp-help-2-10 and master branches, this email is a 
notification.


Hi Jehan,

We appreciate the notice, thanks a lot!
Could you please send us a new notice when the branching is done?

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Re: [Request] Apply for a coordinator

[Claude Paroz]

Le 26.05.21 à 07:12, Udesh Imalka a écrit :

Hello Gnome,

Our current coordinator for sinhala language isn't active and team page 
details etc are outdated. Can you set-up new coordinator for that 
language using below details? Kindly do not remove existing person; i 
have noticed some teams have multiple coordinators. eg: 
https://l10n.gnome.org/teams/pt_BR/ 

Email: ud...@yalu.lk 
Gnome ID: udesh


Udesh, great proposal, however I don't see you as a translator in the 
team. That would be a first step, along with some translation uploads on 
the site.


Danishka, it would be awesome if you could confirm that request and tell 
us if you are interested to continue coordinating the team or not.


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Re: Gateway error

[Claude Paroz]

Le 04.05.21 à 09:44, Hannie Dumoleyn a écrit :
Is there a way to prevent the Gateway error from appearing whenever I 
send a file to the repository?


It does not affect the result, but it is annoying.


This is https://gitlab.gnome.org/Infrastructure/damned-lies/-/issues/144

It's unfortunately not so easy to fix. The right fix would be to move 
those lengthy actions to a queue, but that implies non trivial 
structural changes.


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Re: transfer of ownership

[Claude Paroz]

Thanks for the confirmation. Change done!

Claude

Le 05.05.21 à 04:36, Sense Hofstede a écrit :

Dear all,

I support this bid.

Regards,
Sense Hofstede

On 4 May 2021, at 19:22, Tjipke van der Heide > wrote:


Hello everyone,

After attempting to contribute translations to the frisian(fy) 
translation team, I've contacted the existing members and found out 
the team is no longer active. The current maintainer (which I've added 
as a recipient to this email) has explained to be no longer active, 
and has indicated not to have an issue with me applying to become the 
coordinator for translations. The same goes for the remaining 
translators of the team.
Therefore I would like to request coordinatorship for the frisian 
translation team for gnome, before attempting to restart translations. 
In case it's relevant, my username on l10n.gnome.org 
 is 'Tjipke van der Heide', and I'm registered 
with this email address: tji...@tutanota.com 


I will be awaiting your response,

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Re: String freeze break for gnome-software for 40.1

[Claude Paroz]

Le 25.03.21 à 08:36, Alexandre Franke a écrit :
On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 10:23 PM Philip Withnall > wrote:


Hi all,


Hi,

Can we have a string freeze break for gnome-software to add two new
strings so we can fix a bug in the UI on the ‘Installed’ page?

https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-software/-/merge_requests/657



The strings are “In Progress” and “Applications” as headers in the 
updates view.


I can’t think of a better way to fix this bug, short of reverting the
change which introduced it (which would regress us on a different bug,
and cause 40.1 and 41.alpha to diverge, which would make maintenance a
little harder). I can’t find similar-enough strings which already exist
in gnome-software to use instead.

Accompanying issue:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-software/-/issues/1175



Looks reasonable, 1/2 from i18n.


2/2 from i18n.

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Re: Promote Hugo Carvalho's account to be the coordinator of the Portuguese Translation Team

[Claude Paroz]

Le 16.03.21 à 23:47, Juliano de Souza Camargo via gnome-i18n a écrit :

Hi,

I am the coordinator of the Portuguese Translation Team.
I would like to promote Hugo Carvalho's account to be the coordinator.
I will be inactive for some time.


Hi Juliano,

Thanks for taking care of the sustainability of the team.

Change done!

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Re: Gnome Circle apps and Damn Lies

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Le 23.02.21 à 09:01, Claude Paroz a écrit :

Le 23.02.21 à 08:33, Matej Urbančič a écrit :

Hello,

i was just wondering, if anyone considered or was asked to add GNOME 
Circle apps https://circle.gnome.org/ <https://circle.gnome.org/> to DL?


Good idea, however someone has to i18n-ified it first.


Sorry, I think I misunderstood your proposal. My answer was about 
translating the circle.gnome.org Web page.


Of course, the apps themselves are welcome in the GNOME translation 
infrastructure!


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Re: Gnome Circle apps and Damn Lies

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Le 23.02.21 à 08:33, Matej Urbančič a écrit :

Hello,

i was just wondering, if anyone considered or was asked to add GNOME 
Circle apps https://circle.gnome.org/  to DL?


Good idea, however someone has to i18n-ified it first.

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Re: Sting freeze request for gnome-control-center gnome-3-38 branch

[Claude Paroz]

Le 11.02.21 à 09:09, Alexandre Franke a écrit :


On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 3:53 AM Robert Ancell > wrote:




On Tue, 9 Feb 2021 at 20:25, Alexandre Franke mailto:afra...@gnome.org>> wrote:

Hi Robert,

On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 10:10 PM Robert Ancell via gnome-i18n
mailto:gnome-i18n@gnome.org>> wrote:

There is a feature added in gnome-control-center 40 to add
support for showing both IPv4 and IPv6 DNS settings. The
existing code didn't show the IPv6 settings. This adds two
new translatable strings "DNS4" and "DNS6" which show when a
connection has both IPv4 and IPv6 DNS configured.

Requesting a string freeze break to add this feature.

[1]

https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-center/-/merge_requests/932




Assuming you follow https://wiki.gnome.org/Forty
 for the 3.38.x releases as well,
would this be added right after 3.38.4 so we get enough time to
get it translated for 3.38.5? I’m not sure many translators
would translate these strings by this week Saturday, even though
I suspect most translations will simply copy the original strings.

Yes, happy to add it to 3.38.5 to give time for translation.


Sounds good. 1/2 from i18n.


2/2, thanks !

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Re: DL misconfigured?

[Claude Paroz]

Le 13.11.20 à 12:30, Andika Triwidada via gnome-i18n a écrit :

Hello,

I just tried to upload a new translation, got this error message:

An error occurred during applying your action: [Errno 107] Transport 
endpoint is not connected: '/var/www/djamnedlies/data/media'


Maybe DL misconfigured? damnedlies instead of djamnedlies


It may be a temporary failure between two deployments. Did you try more 
than once?


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Re: Fwd: Submit Help Translation on GNOME Terminal

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Le 04.11.20 à 14:51, Michael Catanzaro a écrit :
On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 2:31 pm, Daniel Mustieles García 
 wrote:
Ok, I agree with you in the procedure but there still a remaining 
question. Could someone help us improving/fixing missing features in 
Damned Lies, so we will not need to directly commit into git?


Looks like Damned Lies is actively maintained here: 
https://gitlab.gnome.org/Infrastructure/damned-lies. So you can ask Claude.


Isn't adding a new help translation fairly rare, though? I don't think 
it's so hard to commit it all at once when this happens?


That's correct, new language codes should be committed along with the 
respective po files, not independently.


Damned Lies is able to add new help files at the condition the help 
directory contains a LINGUAS file (on the same model as for UI po files).


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Re: Technical feasibility to translate a project on Github

[Claude Paroz]

Le 08.10.20 à 14:13, Thibault Martin a écrit :

Hello,

Flatpak doesn't have a proper translation platform. So far people 
retrieve and submit po files manually.


I know Flatpak doesn’t necessarily want to be too associated with GNOME 
so it doesn’t shy out other systems.
Still, a translation provided by one of the major DE could be an huge 
improvement to today’s situation.


I have two questions here:
* Would we accept to take responsibility of Flatpak’s translations?
* Is it technically feasible for DL to handle the translations of a 
project stored on GitHub?


If we answer "yes" to both, I would offer to Flatpak’s team to take care 
of their translations, which they may or may not accept.


Hi Thibault,

There is more or less two level of translation supports in D-L.
The first one is "simply" a status of current module translations + 
updated pot and merged po files ready for translators to use.

That's the case for all freedesktop modules.

The second is ability to commit translations from the Web interface. We 
do not support Github currently for this feature.


So I would say that hosting translation stats would be fine IMHO. Adding 
commit support is another story, even if it should not be so much effort 
(to be evaluated, still).


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Re: Fwd: Submit Help Translation on GNOME Terminal

[Claude Paroz]

Le 05.10.20 à 05:17, Kukuh Syafaat via gnome-i18n a écrit :
> Hi all,
> 
> The Indonesian team has recently submitted gnome-terminal help
> translation to damned-lies, but the po statistics is still 0% [0].
> I checked on gnome-terminal repository in GitLab [0] and there is no
> `id` folder on help.
> Why damned-lies did not create automatically when the translator
> submit po for the first time?
> Is there any workaround for this?
> 
> Best Regards.
> 
> [0] https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gnome-terminal/gnome-3-38/help/id/level1/
> [1] https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-terminal/-/tree/master/help

Hi Kukuh Syafaat,

I guess the issue is due to using the "Inform of submission" action
instead of the "Submit to repository" action. The former is for those
having committed the file by an other mean that DL itself (e.g. by
command line).

However, it may be that DL didn't proposed the action because adding new
translations for modules help without LINGUAS files have to be done "by
hand", as machine-editing Makefiles is too brittle to be automated.

I'm sure someone with GNOME Gitlab commit rights will do the action for
you soon!

Regards,

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Re: Automating commits for Librem 5 related software

[Claude Paroz]

Le 25.09.20 à 09:12, Thibault Martin a écrit :
> Hello translators community,
> 
> On DL the commits for the Librem 5 related modules need to be committed
> manually.
> These modules are hosted on Purism’s Gitlab. The maintainers of these
> modules are easy to reach, and I can ask them for accounts or anything
> we need.
> 
> Can anyone tell me which are the requirements to set-up automated commits?

We had a private discussion with Andrea Veri and Guido Günther on that
subject.
AFAIR, the last word was about the Purism Gitlab admins to setup hooks.
Maybe Guido can tell more about the process.

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Re: Promote the account of Sliman Selyan Amiri to be the coordinator for Kabyle local for Gnome

[Claude Paroz]

Le 18.09.20 à 17:35, Yacine Bouklif via gnome-i18n a écrit :
> Hello,
> I am the coordinator for Kabyle local for Gnome.
> I would like to promote the account of Sliman Selyan Amiri to be the
> coordinator for Kabyle local for Gnome.
> I will continue to be a member of the kabyle team for Gnome as a Commiter.
> Can you please do this.
> Best Regards,
> Yacine Bouklif.

Hi Yacine,

I applied the proposed change of coordinator. It's nice if you can have
a small team, always more motivating.

Happy translating!

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Re: Become a cordinator

[Claude Paroz]

Le 06.09.20 à 17:19, Slimane Selyan Amiri via gnome-i18n a écrit :
> Hello,
> 
> We have already a coordinator for kabyle local for Gnome localization,
> but i would like be the second coordinator for kabyle,

Hi Slimane,

The proper way to do this is to contact the current coordinator and ask
him to promote your account to reviewer or committer.

Regards,

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Re: String break request for Glade

[Claude Paroz]

I18n approval 1 of 2 for GNOME 3.38.*1*

Claude

Le 12.09.20 à 00:13, Juan Pablo Ugarte via gnome-i18n a écrit :
> This is how it would look like
> 
> imagen.png
> 
> 
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 8:15 PM Juan Pablo Ugarte
> mailto:juanpablouga...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hello, sorry for this last minute request
> 
> Last year a beloved professor passed away and I would like to do
> something in commemoration.
> 
> Add a simple string like "In memory of an extraordinaire \n person
> and professor \n R.I.P Guido Macchi" either in the main window or
> about dialog and a small explanation of who he was to me
> 
> Since this wont affect the program at all, there would be no issue
> if its not translated
> 
> thanks
> 
> Juan Pablo
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Re: msgfmt check not pass

[Claude Paroz]

Le 04.09.20 à 08:37, Daniel Mustieles García via gnome-i18n a écrit :
> @Claude, I didn't mean you to fix it, I know we should not touch other
> team's PO files 

Bug entered:
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/NetworkManager/NetworkManager/-/issues/526

Thanks for noticing!

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Re: msgfmt check not pass

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Le 03.09.20 à 18:05, Daniel Mustieles García via gnome-i18n a écrit :
> Hi all,
> 
> I've detected some msgfmt errors in NetworkManager in Damned Lies [1].
> 
> Affected languages are French, Chinese and Japanese.
> 
> Could you please review and fix them?

No, I can't :-)

I suggest you report a bug and point to the faulty commit.
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/NetworkManager/NetworkManager/-/commit/74a36168b
It should simply be reverted.

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Re: Portuguese Translation Team (pt)

[Claude Paroz]

I just granted to Juliano the role of coordinator.
It would be a pity if Portuguese translations are rotting while waiting
for GNOME 3.38.

Juliano, if at some point a native Portuguese (from Portugal) speaker
steps up to take the role, I'm sure you won't block her :-)

Happy committing!

Claude

Le 18.08.20 à 23:49, Rafael Fontenelle a écrit :
> I agree with Florian that this could be very beneficial for the
> Portuguese team. Even though there are differences (similar to en_US
> and en_GB), the Orthographical Agreement (AO-90) helps by making
> uniform a lot of words across Lusophone countries (Like Brazil and
> Portugal). So, with hard work to find the proper localization (l10n)
> and with cooperation of other natives from the team, I believe the
> differences might not be a problem and this can be a great boost for
> the Portuguese team.
> 
> FWIW, I can tell that Juliano has a great domain of (Brazilian)
> Portuguese language: He reported many small by important language
> details I missed in the Brazilian Portuguese translation of
> gnome-control-center/mutter/gnome-shell.
> 
> I'd be happy to help on any technical difficulties he comes through.
> 
> P.s.: The GNOME Brasil Telegram group has some Portugueses (from
> Portugal) some time now, and one just now asked on how to help with
> pt_PT translated (yay, one more contributor!)
> 
> Cheers,
> Rafael Fontenelle
> 
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 9:19 AM Florian H.  wrote:
>>
>> Dear all,
>> I think a coordinator for PT-PT can be Brazilian because his job is mainly 
>> coordinating the work of translators and getting the translations submitted 
>> and merged.
>> I understand the role of the coordinator as a facilitator and as long as 
>> communication between the coordinator and the team members is ensured (which 
>> it is), this can be done. The difference between the two languages are minor 
>> and case there are questionable strings, let the team discuss it with 
>> Juliano.
>>
>> Better have a PT-BR coordinator than a dead PT-PT team.
>>
>> +1 for Juliano! Keep up the good energy!
>>
>> Best, Florian
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 18, 2020, at 14:05, Daniel Mustieles García via gnome-i18n 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Mmmm... I'm not sure about this. If Portuguese is different from Brazilian 
>> and you don't have a full knowledge about it I don't think it's a good idea 
>> to coordinate that team.
>>
>> I don't know how deep are the differences between both languages, but maybe 
>> a Portuguese people might get confused reading some Brazilian terms.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> El mar., 18 ago. 2020 a las 13:24, Rafael Fontenelle () 
>> escribió:
>>>
>>> Hi, Juliano
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 8:17 AM Juliano Camargo via gnome-i18n
>>>  wrote:
>>>
 It depends on what you believe is "ready". Let make me clear, I am not a 
 Portuguese, I am Brazilian. I speak Portuguese but not as they do in 
 Portugal. Still, I am kind of learning how to speak like they do and I use 
 Linux as OS so "why not merge the two things?" I was asking myself.
>>>
>>> Have you considered joining Brazilian Portuguese translation team in
>>> https://l10n.gnome.org/teams/pt_BR/ ?
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Rafael Fontenelle
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