Re: Session management

[SchmiTTT via gnome-list]

Are you blind ?!

This is the solution like I typed it below.

Menu then pops up and in the left side you see entry "starting programs".

Click on it - and then you can enter all programs you need at start-up 
after login.



(Manomanoman... more is not possible... otherwise there would be ports 
open then...


Not so good, when you type your password at login...)


Am 24.04.20 um 05:10 schrieb Volker Wysk:

Am Freitag, den 24.04.2020, 04:39 +0200 schrieb Volker Wysk:

Am Donnerstag, den 23.04.2020, 00:15 +0200 schrieb Carl-Valentin
Schmitt via gnome-list:

In Gnome Desktop :

Alt-F2

Then type :

gnome-tweaks

(this works in Solus Linux 4.1)

There you can input the starting applications.

Yes, I know. This isn't what I meant. I want the open windows and
applications to be stored on logout, and restored on login.

Using starting applications wouldn't be a bad idea. Firefox and Emacs
bring their own session management. The problem is that most (not
all...) windows of both are reopened on the first desktop.

Bye
Volker


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Re: Session management

[Volker Wysk]

Am Freitag, den 24.04.2020, 05:01 +0200 schrieb Volker Wysk:
> Am Mittwoch, den 22.04.2020, 17:53 +0200 schrieb rpr // via gnome-
> list:
> > On 
> > https://askubuntu.com/questions/1084389/automatically-remember-current-running-applications
> > 
> > you should also read the "Answer" section after reading the
> > question.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > So, the first and only answer mentions that there is a Gnome Shell
> > 
> > extension that can be used as the session manager:
> > 
> > https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1323/window-session-manager/
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I've tried that on a Ubuntu 18.04 virtual machine (with Gnome Shell
> > 
> > 3.28.4) and my conclusion is that it works but is quite complicated
> > to
> > 
> > install. Here are the steps that worked for me:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > (1) Install package manager for Node JavaScript platform:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > $ sudo apt install npm
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > (2) Using npm install the linux-window-session-manager package:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > $ sudo npm install -g linux-window-session-manager
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > (3) Install GNOME Shell extensions integration for web browsers
> > (this
> > 
> > is required for the next step to work):
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > $ sudo apt-get install chrome-gnome-shell
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > (4) In Firefox (or Chrome) open
> > 
> > https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1323/window-session-manager/
> > 
> > and enable the Window Session Manager extension by turning the ON
> > 
> > switch.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > After that the Gnome extension displays an icon in top panel where
> > you
> > 
> > save your windows session before logging out and also restore a
> > 
> > session after logging in.
> 
> Your installation instructions work well. Thanks. 
> 
> But the Window Session Manager extension doesn't. I can save the
> session, but it gets all messed up when I restore it. Most windows
> get
> opened on the first desktop. Evolution doesn't get reopened at all...
> I've tried removing all the (four) autostart programs, but this
> doesn't
> help. 

I've turned off Firefox's "restore session" feature, but then it
doesn't work either. I get the two Firefox windows, which I saved in
the Window Session Manager session, and an additional three new Firefox
windows. It's crazy.

Volker

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Re: Session management

[Volker Wysk]

Am Freitag, den 24.04.2020, 04:39 +0200 schrieb Volker Wysk:
> Am Donnerstag, den 23.04.2020, 00:15 +0200 schrieb Carl-Valentin
> Schmitt via gnome-list:
> > In Gnome Desktop :
> > 
> > Alt-F2
> > 
> > Then type :
> > 
> > gnome-tweaks
> > 
> > (this works in Solus Linux 4.1)
> > 
> > There you can input the starting applications. 
> 
> Yes, I know. This isn't what I meant. I want the open windows and
> applications to be stored on logout, and restored on login.

Using starting applications wouldn't be a bad idea. Firefox and Emacs
bring their own session management. The problem is that most (not
all...) windows of both are reopened on the first desktop. 

Bye
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Re: Session management

[Volker Wysk]

Am Mittwoch, den 22.04.2020, 17:53 +0200 schrieb rpr // via gnome-list:
> On 
> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1084389/automatically-remember-current-running-applications
> 
> you should also read the "Answer" section after reading the question.
> 
> 
> 
> So, the first and only answer mentions that there is a Gnome Shell
> 
> extension that can be used as the session manager:
> 
> https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1323/window-session-manager/
> 
> 
> 
> I've tried that on a Ubuntu 18.04 virtual machine (with Gnome Shell
> 
> 3.28.4) and my conclusion is that it works but is quite complicated
> to
> 
> install. Here are the steps that worked for me:
> 
> 
> 
> (1) Install package manager for Node JavaScript platform:
> 
> 
> 
> $ sudo apt install npm
> 
> 
> 
> (2) Using npm install the linux-window-session-manager package:
> 
> 
> 
> $ sudo npm install -g linux-window-session-manager
> 
> 
> 
> (3) Install GNOME Shell extensions integration for web browsers (this
> 
> is required for the next step to work):
> 
> 
> 
> $ sudo apt-get install chrome-gnome-shell
> 
> 
> 
> (4) In Firefox (or Chrome) open
> 
> https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1323/window-session-manager/
> 
> and enable the Window Session Manager extension by turning the ON
> 
> switch.
> 
> 
> 
> After that the Gnome extension displays an icon in top panel where
> you
> 
> save your windows session before logging out and also restore a
> 
> session after logging in.


Your installation instructions work well. Thanks. 

But the Window Session Manager extension doesn't. I can save the
session, but it gets all messed up when I restore it. Most windows get
opened on the first desktop. Evolution doesn't get reopened at all...
I've tried removing all the (four) autostart programs, but this doesn't
help. 

Regards, 
Volker

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Re: Session management

[Volker Wysk]

Am Donnerstag, den 23.04.2020, 00:15 +0200 schrieb Carl-Valentin
Schmitt via gnome-list:
> In Gnome Desktop :
> 
> Alt-F2
> 
> Then type :
> 
> gnome-tweaks
> 
> (this works in Solus Linux 4.1)
> 
> There you can input the starting applications. 

Yes, I know. This isn't what I meant. I want the open windows and
applications to be stored on logout, and restored on login.

Regards,
Volker

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Re: Session management

[Carl-Valentin Schmitt via gnome-list]

In Gnome Desktop :

Alt-F2

Then type :

gnome-tweaks

(this works in Solus Linux 4.1)

There you can input the starting applications.

rpr // via gnome-list  schrieb am Mi., 22. Apr. 2020,
17:53:

> Volker,
>
> On
> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1084389/automatically-remember-current-running-applications
> you should also read the "Answer" section after reading the question.
>
> So, the first and only answer mentions that there is a Gnome Shell
> extension that can be used as the session manager:
> https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1323/window-session-manager/
>
> I've tried that on a Ubuntu 18.04 virtual machine (with Gnome Shell
> 3.28.4) and my conclusion is that it works but is quite complicated to
> install. Here are the steps that worked for me:
>
> (1) Install package manager for Node JavaScript platform:
>
> $ sudo apt install npm
>
> (2) Using npm install the linux-window-session-manager package:
>
> $ sudo npm install -g linux-window-session-manager
>
> (3) Install GNOME Shell extensions integration for web browsers (this
> is required for the next step to work):
>
> $ sudo apt-get install chrome-gnome-shell
>
> (4) In Firefox (or Chrome) open
> https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1323/window-session-manager/
> and enable the Window Session Manager extension by turning the ON
> switch.
>
> After that the Gnome extension displays an icon in top panel where you
> save your windows session before logging out and also restore a
> session after logging in.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> -- rpr.
>
>
> On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 at 04:17, Volker Wysk  wrote:
> >
> > Am Dienstag, den 21.04.2020, 20:05 +0200 schrieb rpr // via gnome-list:
> > > Here is an answer to that question:
> > >
> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1084389/automatically-remember-current-running-applications
> >
> > Thanks. This looks like it has the solution, but it doesn't. The
> > mentioned way to make it work doesn't work, probably because it is for
> > Ubuntu 14.04 and I have 18.04.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Volker
> >
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Re: Session management

[rpr // via gnome-list]

Volker,

On 
https://askubuntu.com/questions/1084389/automatically-remember-current-running-applications
you should also read the "Answer" section after reading the question.

So, the first and only answer mentions that there is a Gnome Shell
extension that can be used as the session manager:
https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1323/window-session-manager/

I've tried that on a Ubuntu 18.04 virtual machine (with Gnome Shell
3.28.4) and my conclusion is that it works but is quite complicated to
install. Here are the steps that worked for me:

(1) Install package manager for Node JavaScript platform:

$ sudo apt install npm

(2) Using npm install the linux-window-session-manager package:

$ sudo npm install -g linux-window-session-manager

(3) Install GNOME Shell extensions integration for web browsers (this
is required for the next step to work):

$ sudo apt-get install chrome-gnome-shell

(4) In Firefox (or Chrome) open
https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1323/window-session-manager/
and enable the Window Session Manager extension by turning the ON
switch.

After that the Gnome extension displays an icon in top panel where you
save your windows session before logging out and also restore a
session after logging in.

Hope this helps.

-- rpr.


On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 at 04:17, Volker Wysk  wrote:
>
> Am Dienstag, den 21.04.2020, 20:05 +0200 schrieb rpr // via gnome-list:
> > Here is an answer to that question:
> > https://askubuntu.com/questions/1084389/automatically-remember-current-running-applications
>
> Thanks. This looks like it has the solution, but it doesn't. The
> mentioned way to make it work doesn't work, probably because it is for
> Ubuntu 14.04 and I have 18.04.
>
> Cheers,
> Volker
>
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Re: Session management

[Volker Wysk]

Am Dienstag, den 21.04.2020, 18:17 +0200 schrieb Carl-Valentin Schmitt:
> Then post this problem
> at http://askubuntu.com

I think I found the answer (this is of 2013): 

"Das Feature der Session-Speicherung gibt es für 
Gnome schon länger nicht mehr, da es zu viele Probleme verursacht
hat." (
https://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/gnome-shell-aktuelle-sitzung-speichern/#post-5442187
)

Translation: "The feature of saved sessions doesn't exist for a long
time any more, because it caused too much problems."

Regards,
Volker

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Re: Session management

[Volker Wysk]

Am Dienstag, den 21.04.2020, 20:05 +0200 schrieb rpr // via gnome-list:
> Here is an answer to that question:
> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1084389/automatically-remember-current-running-applications

Thanks. This looks like it has the solution, but it doesn't. The
mentioned way to make it work doesn't work, probably because it is for
Ubuntu 14.04 and I have 18.04.

Cheers,
Volker

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Re: Session management

[rpr // via gnome-list]

Here is an answer to that question:
https://askubuntu.com/questions/1084389/automatically-remember-current-running-applications

On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 at 18:18, Carl-Valentin Schmitt via gnome-list
 wrote:
>
> Then post this problem
> at http://askubuntu.com
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Re: Session management

[Carl-Valentin Schmitt via gnome-list]

Then post this problem
at http://askubuntu.com



Volker Wysk  schrieb am Di., 21. Apr. 2020, 18:15:

> Am Dienstag, den 21.04.2020, 18:01 +0200 schrieb SchmiTTT:
> > Sorry, I probably mistyped :
> >
> > it is not gnome-tweak-tool
> >
> > it is gnome-tweak-tools
>
> I still get the "command not found" message.
>
> The package, btw. is "gnome-tweaks", and the command name is the same.
> But it doesn't contain anything about sessions, like I've already said.
>
> Regards,
> Volker
>
> > Am 21.04.20 um 18:00 schrieb Volker Wysk:
> > > Am Dienstag, den 21.04.2020, 17:53 +0200 schrieb Carl-Valentin
> > > Schmitt:
> > > > After installation you press keys
> > > > Alt-F2
> > > >
> > > > Then type : gnome-tweak-tool
> > > >
> > > > There you are and you can set up your own Desktop.
> > > >
> > > > (I refer here to Ubuntu).
> > > I get a "Befehl nicht gefunden" ("command not found") message, when
> > > I
> > > try to start gnome-tweak-tool this way. But i can start it with
> > > "gnome-
> > > tweak-tool" in the activites overview.
> > >
> > > I get the suspicion that my 18.04 LTS system is outdated.
> > >
> > > Bye
> > > Volker
> > >
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Re: Session management

[Volker Wysk]

Am Dienstag, den 21.04.2020, 18:01 +0200 schrieb SchmiTTT:
> Sorry, I probably mistyped :
> 
> it is not gnome-tweak-tool
> 
> it is gnome-tweak-tools

I still get the "command not found" message.

The package, btw. is "gnome-tweaks", and the command name is the same.
But it doesn't contain anything about sessions, like I've already said.

Regards,
Volker

> Am 21.04.20 um 18:00 schrieb Volker Wysk:
> > Am Dienstag, den 21.04.2020, 17:53 +0200 schrieb Carl-Valentin
> > Schmitt:
> > > After installation you press keys
> > > Alt-F2
> > > 
> > > Then type : gnome-tweak-tool
> > > 
> > > There you are and you can set up your own Desktop.
> > > 
> > > (I refer here to Ubuntu).
> > I get a "Befehl nicht gefunden" ("command not found") message, when
> > I
> > try to start gnome-tweak-tool this way. But i can start it with
> > "gnome-
> > tweak-tool" in the activites overview.
> > 
> > I get the suspicion that my 18.04 LTS system is outdated.
> > 
> > Bye
> > Volker
> > 
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Re: Session management

[SchmiTTT via gnome-list]

Sorry, I probably mistyped :

it is not gnome-tweak-tool

it is gnome-tweak-tools


Am 21.04.20 um 18:00 schrieb Volker Wysk:

Am Dienstag, den 21.04.2020, 17:53 +0200 schrieb Carl-Valentin Schmitt:

After installation you press keys
Alt-F2

Then type : gnome-tweak-tool

There you are and you can set up your own Desktop.

(I refer here to Ubuntu).

I get a "Befehl nicht gefunden" ("command not found") message, when I
try to start gnome-tweak-tool this way. But i can start it with "gnome-
tweak-tool" in the activites overview.

I get the suspicion that my 18.04 LTS system is outdated.

Bye
Volker

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Re: Session management

[Volker Wysk]

Am Dienstag, den 21.04.2020, 17:53 +0200 schrieb Carl-Valentin Schmitt:
> After installation you press keys
> Alt-F2
> 
> Then type : gnome-tweak-tool
> 
> There you are and you can set up your own Desktop. 
> 
> (I refer here to Ubuntu).

I get a "Befehl nicht gefunden" ("command not found") message, when I
try to start gnome-tweak-tool this way. But i can start it with "gnome-
tweak-tool" in the activites overview.

I get the suspicion that my 18.04 LTS system is outdated.

Bye
Volker

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Re: Session management

[Volker Wysk]

Am Dienstag, den 21.04.2020, 17:03 +0200 schrieb Carl-Valentin Schmitt:
> You probably have to install package with name:
> gnome-tweak-tool

I know the gnome tweak tool, but there isn't anything about sessions in
there. My version is 3.28.1.

Regards,
Volker

> Volker Wysk  schrieb am Di., 21. Apr. 2020,
> 16:47:
> > Am Dienstag, den 21.04.2020, 16:27 +0200 schrieb Carl-Valentin
> > Schmitt:
> > > It is there in gnome-settings. 
> > 
> > What is this? I don't have this. It isn't a package or a program.
> > apt-
> > file doesn't find it too, and it isn't in the program list of the
> > activity overview. The "Ubuntu-Software" program doesn't find it,
> > too.
> > 
> > I'm using Ubuntu 18.04.
> > 
> > Bye,
> > Volker
> > 
> > > Volker Wysk  schrieb am Di., 21. Apr. 2020,
> > > 15:58:
> > > > Hi!
> > > > 
> > > > Is it true that Gnome 3 doesn't have any session management?
> > Might
> > > > it
> > > > be able to add session management with a gnome extension?
> > 
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Re: Session management

[Carl-Valentin Schmitt via gnome-list]

After installation you press keys
Alt-F2

Then type : gnome-tweak-tool

There you are and you can set up your own Desktop.

(I refer here to Ubuntu).



Carl-Valentin Schmitt  schrieb am Di., 21. Apr. 2020,
17:03:

> You probably have to install package with name:
> gnome-tweak-tool
>
>
> Volker Wysk  schrieb am Di., 21. Apr. 2020, 16:47:
>
>> Am Dienstag, den 21.04.2020, 16:27 +0200 schrieb Carl-Valentin Schmitt:
>> > It is there in gnome-settings.
>>
>> What is this? I don't have this. It isn't a package or a program. apt-
>> file doesn't find it too, and it isn't in the program list of the
>> activity overview. The "Ubuntu-Software" program doesn't find it, too.
>>
>> I'm using Ubuntu 18.04.
>>
>> Bye,
>> Volker
>>
>> > Volker Wysk  schrieb am Di., 21. Apr. 2020,
>> > 15:58:
>> > > Hi!
>> > >
>> > > Is it true that Gnome 3 doesn't have any session management? Might
>> > > it
>> > > be able to add session management with a gnome extension?
>>
>>
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Re: Session management

[Carl-Valentin Schmitt via gnome-list]

You probably have to install package with name:
gnome-tweak-tool


Volker Wysk  schrieb am Di., 21. Apr. 2020, 16:47:

> Am Dienstag, den 21.04.2020, 16:27 +0200 schrieb Carl-Valentin Schmitt:
> > It is there in gnome-settings.
>
> What is this? I don't have this. It isn't a package or a program. apt-
> file doesn't find it too, and it isn't in the program list of the
> activity overview. The "Ubuntu-Software" program doesn't find it, too.
>
> I'm using Ubuntu 18.04.
>
> Bye,
> Volker
>
> > Volker Wysk  schrieb am Di., 21. Apr. 2020,
> > 15:58:
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > Is it true that Gnome 3 doesn't have any session management? Might
> > > it
> > > be able to add session management with a gnome extension?
>
>
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Re: Session management

[Volker Wysk]

Am Dienstag, den 21.04.2020, 16:27 +0200 schrieb Carl-Valentin Schmitt:
> It is there in gnome-settings. 

What is this? I don't have this. It isn't a package or a program. apt-
file doesn't find it too, and it isn't in the program list of the
activity overview. The "Ubuntu-Software" program doesn't find it, too.

I'm using Ubuntu 18.04.

Bye,
Volker

> Volker Wysk  schrieb am Di., 21. Apr. 2020,
> 15:58:
> > Hi!
> > 
> > Is it true that Gnome 3 doesn't have any session management? Might
> > it
> > be able to add session management with a gnome extension?


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Re: Session management

[Volker Wysk]

Am Dienstag, den 21.04.2020, 10:10 -0400 schrieb Adam Tauno Williams:
> On Tue, 2020-04-21 at 15:56 +0200, Volker Wysk wrote:
> > Hi!
> > Is it true that Gnome 3 doesn't have any session management? Might
> > it
> > be able to add session management with a gnome extension
> 
> What do you mean by session management?

I mean that the running applications get remembered and started again
when logging in again. The same windows are opened again. Like, for
instance, in KDE.

Bye
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Re: Session management

[Adam Tauno Williams]

On Tue, 2020-04-21 at 15:56 +0200, Volker Wysk wrote:
> Hi!
> Is it true that Gnome 3 doesn't have any session management? Might it
> be able to add session management with a gnome extension

What do you mean by session management?

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Re: Session management

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It is there in gnome-settings.

Volker Wysk  schrieb am Di., 21. Apr. 2020, 15:58:

> Hi!
>
> Is it true that Gnome 3 doesn't have any session management? Might it
> be able to add session management with a gnome extension?
>
> Cheers,
> Volker
>
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