Re: how/where to find Gnome Preferences Tool?

[Tony Houghton]

I haven't seen your new thread. Changing the focused window colour/contrast
should be fairly easy, and I think you could do it with a gtkrc file
instead of writing a whole theme. You probably won't be able to resurrect
scroll buttons though. They were phased out years ago, so the functionality
has probably been removed; not something you can simply enable with a theme
option.

On Tue, 6 Apr 2021 at 01:07, ken via gnome-list 
wrote:

> Thanks very much, Tom.  That's a lot of themes to choose from! I'm
> concerned though most with functionality.  Specifically, I'm after (1)
> scroll buttons on the windows and, (2) I'd like to have much more of a
> color difference of the window having the focus from the other windows.
> I've opened a separate thread about scroll buttons (if that email is
> allowed to come through onto this list).
>


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Re: how/where to find Gnome Preferences Tool?

[Carl-Valentin Schmitt via gnome-list]

I was wrong, sorry.

ken via gnome-list  schrieb am Di., 6. Apr. 2021,
02:06:

> Thanks very much, Tom.  That's a lot of themes to choose from! I'm
> concerned though most with functionality.  Specifically, I'm after (1)
> scroll buttons on the windows and, (2) I'd like to have much more of a
> color difference of the window having the focus from the other windows.
> I've opened a separate thread about scroll buttons (if that email is
> allowed to come through onto this list).
>
> On 4/5/21 3:37 PM, Listings - www.majors-welt.net wrote:
> > Hi there,
> >
> > i can recommend themes from
> > https://github.com/vinceliuice?tab=repositories.
> >
> > You find these and other GTK 3/4 themes as well as Gnome-Shell themes
> > here: https://www.gnome-look.org/browse/cat/135/order/latest/
> >
> > br,
> > tom
> >
> > Am 05.04.21 um 19:53 schrieb Tony Houghton:
> >> You can still change themes in Tweaks, in the Appearance section.
> >> I've never seen a theme that looks nicer than Adwaita though.
> >>
> >> On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 at 17:23, Carl-Valentin Schmitt via gnome-list
> >> mailto:gnome-list@gnome.org>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello Ken,
> >>
> >> "changing themes" was a feature in earlier versions of Gnome.
> >>
> >> I think in newer versions actually - "changing themes" has been
> >> left away.
> >>
> >> Gnome is not like KDE.
> >> ;)
> >>
> >> Greetz. Val.
> >>
> >> ken via gnome-list  >> > schrieb am Mo., 5. Apr. 2021, 17:52:
> >>
> >> Carl,
> >>
> >> Using preferences (Settings is what I think we're talking
> >> about) and gnome-tweaks is not at all difficult-- well,
> >> finding what needs to be changed is the most difficult, and
> >> knowing the correct terminology to run a search.  But I've
> >> used both of those apps to make a lot of changes already.
> >>
> >> What's much more difficult is making changes in gnome (or are
> >> they in Wayland?) which are no longer configurable using
> >> Settings or gnome tweaks... or perhaps not configurable at all
> >> in gnome.
> >>
> >> On 4/4/21 3:19 PM, Carl-Valentin Schmitt via gnome-list wrote:
> >>> Hello Ken,
> >>>
> >>> for how to use preferences in Gnome or how to use
> >>> gnome-tweaks, you could explore forums
> >>> like
> >>> ubuntu.com  or askubuntu.com
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>> There are minimum differences, when you use Gnome in
> >>> different distros.
> >>>
> >>> This way gnome-tweaks works.
> >>> You only need to know the version
> >>> for searching in forums.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> rpr // via gnome-list  >>> > schrieb am So., 4. Apr. 2021,
> >>> 20:15:
> >>>
> >>> Ken, that Desktop User Guide is very old (see the last
> >>> modified times
> >>> of files in https://people.gnome.org/~bmsmith/
> >>> ) and it does not
> refer
> >>> to GNOME 3 desktop environment used in Fedora 33.
> >>>
> >>> -- rpr.
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, 4 Apr 2021 at 18:23, ken  >>> > wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > Looking at and following the Desktop User Guide, I was
> >>> trying to create a new theme (and do a few other things
> >>> explained there).  I already have and have been using the
> >>> tweak tool quite a bit, but what is explained in that
> >>> userguide does not correspond at all to the what's in the
> >>> tweak tool... iow, it doesn't seem to be the same app,
> >>> the Preference Tool, mentioned in the userguide.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On 4/4/21 6:44 AM, Carl-Valentin Schmitt wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > I think Ken means the package
> >>> >
> >>> > gnome-tweak-tool
> >>> >
> >>> > You need to install this package
> >>> > before you can adjust Gnome.
> >>> >
> >>> > Greetz. Val.
> >>> >
> >>> > ken  >>> > schrieb am So., 4. Apr.
> >>> 2021, 11:20:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Though I've seen the Preferences Tool mentioned in
> >>> several gnome docs
> >>> >> (including the userguide.pdf), I haven't been able to
> >>> find it on my
> >>> >> system (Fedora 33) or in the repos so I can download
> >>> and install it.
> >>> >> Does it still exist...? or is it perhaps included in a
> >>> package by some
> >>> >> other name?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> tia.
> >>> >> __

Re: how/where to find Gnome Preferences Tool?

[ken via gnome-list]

Thanks very much, Tom.  That's a lot of themes to choose from! I'm 
concerned though most with functionality.  Specifically, I'm after (1) 
scroll buttons on the windows and, (2) I'd like to have much more of a 
color difference of the window having the focus from the other windows.  
I've opened a separate thread about scroll buttons (if that email is 
allowed to come through onto this list).


On 4/5/21 3:37 PM, Listings - www.majors-welt.net wrote:

Hi there,

i can recommend themes from 
https://github.com/vinceliuice?tab=repositories.


You find these and other GTK 3/4 themes as well as Gnome-Shell themes 
here: https://www.gnome-look.org/browse/cat/135/order/latest/


br,
tom

Am 05.04.21 um 19:53 schrieb Tony Houghton:
You can still change themes in Tweaks, in the Appearance section. 
I've never seen a theme that looks nicer than Adwaita though.


On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 at 17:23, Carl-Valentin Schmitt via gnome-list 
mailto:gnome-list@gnome.org>> wrote:


    Hello Ken,

    "changing themes" was a feature in earlier versions of Gnome.

    I think in newer versions actually - "changing themes" has been
    left away.

    Gnome is not like KDE.
    ;)

    Greetz. Val.

    ken via gnome-list mailto:gnome-list@gnome.org>> schrieb am Mo., 5. Apr. 2021, 17:52:

    Carl,

    Using preferences (Settings is what I think we're talking
    about) and gnome-tweaks is not at all difficult-- well,
    finding what needs to be changed is the most difficult, and
    knowing the correct terminology to run a search.  But I've
    used both of those apps to make a lot of changes already.

    What's much more difficult is making changes in gnome (or are
    they in Wayland?) which are no longer configurable using
    Settings or gnome tweaks... or perhaps not configurable at all
    in gnome.

    On 4/4/21 3:19 PM, Carl-Valentin Schmitt via gnome-list wrote:

    Hello Ken,

    for how to use preferences in Gnome or how to use
    gnome-tweaks, you could explore forums
    like
    ubuntu.com  or askubuntu.com
    

    There are minimum differences, when you use Gnome in
    different distros.

    This way gnome-tweaks works.
    You only need to know the version
    for searching in forums.



    rpr // via gnome-list mailto:gnome-list@gnome.org>> schrieb am So., 4. Apr. 2021,
    20:15:

    Ken, that Desktop User Guide is very old (see the last
    modified times
    of files in https://people.gnome.org/~bmsmith/
    ) and it does not refer
    to GNOME 3 desktop environment used in Fedora 33.

    -- rpr.

    On Sun, 4 Apr 2021 at 18:23, ken mailto:m...@newcultures.com>> wrote:
    >
    > Looking at and following the Desktop User Guide, I was
    trying to create a new theme (and do a few other things
    explained there).  I already have and have been using the
    tweak tool quite a bit, but what is explained in that
    userguide does not correspond at all to the what's in the
    tweak tool... iow, it doesn't seem to be the same app,
    the Preference Tool, mentioned in the userguide.
    >
    >
    > On 4/4/21 6:44 AM, Carl-Valentin Schmitt wrote:
    >
    > I think Ken means the package
    >
    > gnome-tweak-tool
    >
    > You need to install this package
    > before you can adjust Gnome.
    >
    > Greetz. Val.
    >
    > ken mailto:m...@newcultures.com>> schrieb am So., 4. Apr.
    2021, 11:20:
    >>
    >> Though I've seen the Preferences Tool mentioned in
    several gnome docs
    >> (including the userguide.pdf), I haven't been able to
    find it on my
    >> system (Fedora 33) or in the repos so I can download
    and install it.
    >> Does it still exist...? or is it perhaps included in a
    package by some
    >> other name?
    >>
    >> tia.
    >> ___
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    >> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list

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Re: how/where to find Gnome Preferences Tool?

[Listings - www.majors-welt.net]

Hi there,

i can recommend themes from https://github.com/vinceliuice?tab=repositories.

You find these and other GTK 3/4 themes as well as Gnome-Shell themes 
here: https://www.gnome-look.org/browse/cat/135/order/latest/


br,
tom

Am 05.04.21 um 19:53 schrieb Tony Houghton:
You can still change themes in Tweaks, in the Appearance section. I've 
never seen a theme that looks nicer than Adwaita though.


On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 at 17:23, Carl-Valentin Schmitt via gnome-list 
mailto:gnome-list@gnome.org>> wrote:


Hello Ken,

"changing themes" was a feature in earlier versions of Gnome.

I think in newer versions actually - "changing themes" has been
left away.

Gnome is not like KDE.
;)

Greetz. Val.

ken via gnome-list mailto:gnome-list@gnome.org>> schrieb am Mo., 5. Apr. 2021, 17:52:

Carl,

Using preferences (Settings is what I think we're talking
about) and gnome-tweaks is not at all difficult-- well,
finding what needs to be changed is the most difficult, and
knowing the correct terminology to run a search.  But I've
used both of those apps to make a lot of changes already.

What's much more difficult is making changes in gnome (or are
they in Wayland?) which are no longer configurable using
Settings or gnome tweaks... or perhaps not configurable at all
in gnome.

On 4/4/21 3:19 PM, Carl-Valentin Schmitt via gnome-list wrote:

Hello Ken,

for how to use preferences in Gnome or how to use
gnome-tweaks, you could explore forums
like
ubuntu.com  or askubuntu.com


There are minimum differences, when you use Gnome in
different distros.

This way gnome-tweaks works.
You only need to know the version
for searching in forums.



rpr // via gnome-list mailto:gnome-list@gnome.org>> schrieb am So., 4. Apr. 2021,
20:15:

Ken, that Desktop User Guide is very old (see the last
modified times
of files in https://people.gnome.org/~bmsmith/
) and it does not refer
to GNOME 3 desktop environment used in Fedora 33.

-- rpr.

On Sun, 4 Apr 2021 at 18:23, ken mailto:m...@newcultures.com>> wrote:
>
> Looking at and following the Desktop User Guide, I was
trying to create a new theme (and do a few other things
explained there).  I already have and have been using the
tweak tool quite a bit, but what is explained in that
userguide does not correspond at all to the what's in the
tweak tool... iow, it doesn't seem to be the same app,
the Preference Tool, mentioned in the userguide.
>
>
> On 4/4/21 6:44 AM, Carl-Valentin Schmitt wrote:
>
> I think Ken means the package
>
> gnome-tweak-tool
>
> You need to install this package
> before you can adjust Gnome.
>
> Greetz. Val.
>
> ken mailto:m...@newcultures.com>> schrieb am So., 4. Apr.
2021, 11:20:
>>
>> Though I've seen the Preferences Tool mentioned in
several gnome docs
>> (including the userguide.pdf), I haven't been able to
find it on my
>> system (Fedora 33) or in the repos so I can download
and install it.
>> Does it still exist...? or is it perhaps included in a
package by some
>> other name?
>>
>> tia.
>> ___
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>> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list

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Re: how/where to find Gnome Preferences Tool?

[Tony Houghton]

You can still change themes in Tweaks, in the Appearance section. I've
never seen a theme that looks nicer than Adwaita though.

On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 at 17:23, Carl-Valentin Schmitt via gnome-list <
gnome-list@gnome.org> wrote:

> Hello Ken,
>
> "changing themes" was a feature in earlier versions of Gnome.
>
> I think in newer versions actually - "changing themes" has been left away.
>
> Gnome is not like KDE.
> ;)
>
> Greetz. Val.
>
> ken via gnome-list  schrieb am Mo., 5. Apr. 2021,
> 17:52:
>
>> Carl,
>>
>> Using preferences (Settings is what I think we're talking about) and
>> gnome-tweaks is not at all difficult-- well, finding what needs to be
>> changed is the most difficult, and knowing the correct terminology to run a
>> search.  But I've used both of those apps to make a lot of changes
>> already.
>>
>> What's much more difficult is making changes in gnome (or are they in
>> Wayland?) which are no longer configurable using Settings or gnome
>> tweaks... or perhaps not configurable at all in gnome.
>> On 4/4/21 3:19 PM, Carl-Valentin Schmitt via gnome-list wrote:
>>
>> Hello Ken,
>>
>> for how to use preferences in Gnome or how to use gnome-tweaks, you could
>> explore forums
>> like
>> ubuntu.com or askubuntu.com
>>
>> There are minimum differences, when you use Gnome in different distros.
>>
>> This way gnome-tweaks works.
>> You only need to know the version
>> for searching in forums.
>>
>>
>>
>> rpr // via gnome-list  schrieb am So., 4. Apr.
>> 2021, 20:15:
>>
>>> Ken, that Desktop User Guide is very old (see the last modified times
>>> of files in https://people.gnome.org/~bmsmith/) and it does not refer
>>> to GNOME 3 desktop environment used in Fedora 33.
>>>
>>> -- rpr.
>>>
>>> On Sun, 4 Apr 2021 at 18:23, ken  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Looking at and following the Desktop User Guide, I was trying to
>>> create a new theme (and do a few other things explained there).  I already
>>> have and have been using the tweak tool quite a bit, but what is explained
>>> in that userguide does not correspond at all to the what's in the tweak
>>> tool... iow, it doesn't seem to be the same app, the Preference Tool,
>>> mentioned in the userguide.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 4/4/21 6:44 AM, Carl-Valentin Schmitt wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I think Ken means the package
>>> >
>>> > gnome-tweak-tool
>>> >
>>> > You need to install this package
>>> > before you can adjust Gnome.
>>> >
>>> > Greetz. Val.
>>> >
>>> > ken  schrieb am So., 4. Apr. 2021, 11:20:
>>> >>
>>> >> Though I've seen the Preferences Tool mentioned in several gnome docs
>>> >> (including the userguide.pdf), I haven't been able to find it on my
>>> >> system (Fedora 33) or in the repos so I can download and install it.
>>> >> Does it still exist...? or is it perhaps included in a package by some
>>> >> other name?
>>> >>
>>> >> tia.
>>> >> ___
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>>> >> gnome-list@gnome.org
>>> >> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list
>>> >
>>> > ___
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Re: how/where to find Gnome Preferences Tool?

[Carl-Valentin Schmitt via gnome-list]

Hello Ken,

"changing themes" was a feature in earlier versions of Gnome.

I think in newer versions actually - "changing themes" has been left away.

Gnome is not like KDE.
;)

Greetz. Val.

ken via gnome-list  schrieb am Mo., 5. Apr. 2021,
17:52:

> Carl,
>
> Using preferences (Settings is what I think we're talking about) and
> gnome-tweaks is not at all difficult-- well, finding what needs to be
> changed is the most difficult, and knowing the correct terminology to run a
> search.  But I've used both of those apps to make a lot of changes
> already.
>
> What's much more difficult is making changes in gnome (or are they in
> Wayland?) which are no longer configurable using Settings or gnome
> tweaks... or perhaps not configurable at all in gnome.
> On 4/4/21 3:19 PM, Carl-Valentin Schmitt via gnome-list wrote:
>
> Hello Ken,
>
> for how to use preferences in Gnome or how to use gnome-tweaks, you could
> explore forums
> like
> ubuntu.com or askubuntu.com
>
> There are minimum differences, when you use Gnome in different distros.
>
> This way gnome-tweaks works.
> You only need to know the version
> for searching in forums.
>
>
>
> rpr // via gnome-list  schrieb am So., 4. Apr.
> 2021, 20:15:
>
>> Ken, that Desktop User Guide is very old (see the last modified times
>> of files in https://people.gnome.org/~bmsmith/) and it does not refer
>> to GNOME 3 desktop environment used in Fedora 33.
>>
>> -- rpr.
>>
>> On Sun, 4 Apr 2021 at 18:23, ken  wrote:
>> >
>> > Looking at and following the Desktop User Guide, I was trying to create
>> a new theme (and do a few other things explained there).  I already have
>> and have been using the tweak tool quite a bit, but what is explained in
>> that userguide does not correspond at all to the what's in the tweak
>> tool... iow, it doesn't seem to be the same app, the Preference Tool,
>> mentioned in the userguide.
>> >
>> >
>> > On 4/4/21 6:44 AM, Carl-Valentin Schmitt wrote:
>> >
>> > I think Ken means the package
>> >
>> > gnome-tweak-tool
>> >
>> > You need to install this package
>> > before you can adjust Gnome.
>> >
>> > Greetz. Val.
>> >
>> > ken  schrieb am So., 4. Apr. 2021, 11:20:
>> >>
>> >> Though I've seen the Preferences Tool mentioned in several gnome docs
>> >> (including the userguide.pdf), I haven't been able to find it on my
>> >> system (Fedora 33) or in the repos so I can download and install it.
>> >> Does it still exist...? or is it perhaps included in a package by some
>> >> other name?
>> >>
>> >> tia.
>> >> ___
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>> >> gnome-list@gnome.org
>> >> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list
>> >
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Re: how/where to find Gnome Preferences Tool?

[ken via gnome-list]

On 4/4/21 7:24 PM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:

On Sun, 2021-04-04 at 12:23 -0400, ken wrote:


Looking at and following the Desktop User Guide 
, I was trying to 
create a new theme (and do a few other things explained there).  I 
already have and have been using the tweak tool quite a bit, but what 
is explained in that userguide does not correspond at all to the 
what's in the tweak tool... iow, it doesn't seem to be the same app, 
the Preference Tool, mentioned in the userguide.



Themes are a developer, not a user topic.

Maybe start @
https://github.com/surajmandalcell/Gtk-Theming-Guide/blob/master/creating_gtk_themes.md#:~:text=To%20create%20a%20GTK3%20theme%2C%20developers%20can%20start,then%20the%20developer%20can%20start%20editing%20the%20files 
.


Thanks for that link.  It's exactly what I'd want were I to get into gtk 
development.  Unfortunately, I can't do all that right now.  I've done a 
bit of development in the past, but at the moment I have many other 
things I need to do first.  Maybe later. First I need to set up this new 
system so I can use it. So for the time being, I'm just looking to make 
some quick configuration changes... those which are still possible.



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Re: how/where to find Gnome Preferences Tool?

[ken via gnome-list]

Carl,

Using preferences (Settings is what I think we're talking about) and 
gnome-tweaks is not at all difficult-- well, finding what needs to be 
changed is the most difficult, and knowing the correct terminology to 
run a search.  But I've used both of those apps to make a lot of changes 
already.


What's much more difficult is making changes in gnome (or are they in 
Wayland?) which are no longer configurable using Settings or gnome 
tweaks... or perhaps not configurable at all in gnome.


On 4/4/21 3:19 PM, Carl-Valentin Schmitt via gnome-list wrote:

Hello Ken,

for how to use preferences in Gnome or how to use gnome-tweaks, you 
could explore forums

like
ubuntu.com  or askubuntu.com 

There are minimum differences, when you use Gnome in different distros.

This way gnome-tweaks works.
You only need to know the version
for searching in forums.



rpr // via gnome-list > schrieb am So., 4. Apr. 2021, 20:15:


Ken, that Desktop User Guide is very old (see the last modified times
of files in https://people.gnome.org/~bmsmith/
) and it does not refer
to GNOME 3 desktop environment used in Fedora 33.

-- rpr.

On Sun, 4 Apr 2021 at 18:23, ken mailto:m...@newcultures.com>> wrote:
>
> Looking at and following the Desktop User Guide, I was trying to
create a new theme (and do a few other things explained there).  I
already have and have been using the tweak tool quite a bit, but
what is explained in that userguide does not correspond at all to
the what's in the tweak tool... iow, it doesn't seem to be the
same app, the Preference Tool, mentioned in the userguide.
>
>
> On 4/4/21 6:44 AM, Carl-Valentin Schmitt wrote:
>
> I think Ken means the package
>
> gnome-tweak-tool
>
> You need to install this package
> before you can adjust Gnome.
>
> Greetz. Val.
>
> ken mailto:m...@newcultures.com>> schrieb
am So., 4. Apr. 2021, 11:20:
>>
>> Though I've seen the Preferences Tool mentioned in several
gnome docs
>> (including the userguide.pdf), I haven't been able to find it on my
>> system (Fedora 33) or in the repos so I can download and
install it.
>> Does it still exist...? or is it perhaps included in a package
by some
>> other name?
>>
>> tia.
>> ___
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>> gnome-list@gnome.org 
>> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list

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Re: how/where to find Gnome Preferences Tool?

[Adam Tauno Williams]

On Sun, 2021-04-04 at 12:23 -0400, ken wrote:
> Looking at and following the Desktop
> User Guide, I was trying to create a new theme (and do a few
>   other things explained there).  I already have and have been
> using
>   the tweak tool quite a bit, but what is explained in that
>   userguide does not correspond at all to the what's in the tweak
>   tool... iow, it doesn't seem to be the same app, the Preference
>   Tool, mentioned in the userguide.
Themes are a developer, not a user topic.

Maybe start @ 
https://github.com/surajmandalcell/Gtk-Theming-Guide/blob/master/creating_gtk_themes.md#:~:text=To%20create%20a%20GTK3%20theme%2C%20developers%20can%20start,then%20the%20developer%20can%20start%20editing%20the%20files.



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Re: how/where to find Gnome Preferences Tool?

[Volker Wysk]

Am Sonntag, den 04.04.2021, 15:23 -0400 schrieb ken:
> On 4/4/21 1:58 PM, Volker Wysk wrote:
> > Am Sonntag, den 04.04.2021, 12:23 -0400 schrieb ken:
> > > Looking at and following the Desktop User Guide, I was trying to create a
> > > new theme (and do a few other things explained there).  I already have and
> > > have been using the tweak tool quite a bit, but what is explained in that
> > > userguide does not correspond at all to the what's in the tweak tool...
> > > iow, it doesn't seem to be the same app, the Preference Tool, mentioned in
> > > the userguide.
> > The copyright (second page) is of 2003-2005. Is Gnome really this old ...?
> > If so, that Desktop User Guide is completely outdated.
> > 
> > Volker
> 
> Thanks for tracking that down for me.  It could explain difficulties 
> I've been having.
> 
> Could that be the reason I can't create a custom theme...? is that 
> capability no longer available?  Also, has the capability to create 
> "drawyers" also gone?

I don't know. Sorry.

Bye,Volker


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Re: how/where to find Gnome Preferences Tool?

[ken via gnome-list]

On 4/4/21 1:58 PM, Volker Wysk wrote:

Am Sonntag, den 04.04.2021, 12:23 -0400 schrieb ken:

Looking at and following the Desktop User Guide, I was trying to create a
new theme (and do a few other things explained there).  I already have and
have been using the tweak tool quite a bit, but what is explained in that
userguide does not correspond at all to the what's in the tweak tool...
iow, it doesn't seem to be the same app, the Preference Tool, mentioned in
the userguide.

The copyright (second page) is of 2003-2005. Is Gnome really this old ...?
If so, that Desktop User Guide is completely outdated.

Volker


Thanks for tracking that down for me.  It could explain difficulties 
I've been having.


Could that be the reason I can't create a custom theme...? is that 
capability no longer available?  Also, has the capability to create 
"drawyers" also gone?



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Re: how/where to find Gnome Preferences Tool?

[Carl-Valentin Schmitt via gnome-list]

Hello Ken,

for how to use preferences in Gnome or how to use gnome-tweaks, you could
explore forums
like
ubuntu.com or askubuntu.com

There are minimum differences, when you use Gnome in different distros.

This way gnome-tweaks works.
You only need to know the version
for searching in forums.



rpr // via gnome-list  schrieb am So., 4. Apr. 2021,
20:15:

> Ken, that Desktop User Guide is very old (see the last modified times
> of files in https://people.gnome.org/~bmsmith/) and it does not refer
> to GNOME 3 desktop environment used in Fedora 33.
>
> -- rpr.
>
> On Sun, 4 Apr 2021 at 18:23, ken  wrote:
> >
> > Looking at and following the Desktop User Guide, I was trying to create
> a new theme (and do a few other things explained there).  I already have
> and have been using the tweak tool quite a bit, but what is explained in
> that userguide does not correspond at all to the what's in the tweak
> tool... iow, it doesn't seem to be the same app, the Preference Tool,
> mentioned in the userguide.
> >
> >
> > On 4/4/21 6:44 AM, Carl-Valentin Schmitt wrote:
> >
> > I think Ken means the package
> >
> > gnome-tweak-tool
> >
> > You need to install this package
> > before you can adjust Gnome.
> >
> > Greetz. Val.
> >
> > ken  schrieb am So., 4. Apr. 2021, 11:20:
> >>
> >> Though I've seen the Preferences Tool mentioned in several gnome docs
> >> (including the userguide.pdf), I haven't been able to find it on my
> >> system (Fedora 33) or in the repos so I can download and install it.
> >> Does it still exist...? or is it perhaps included in a package by some
> >> other name?
> >>
> >> tia.
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Re: how/where to find Gnome Preferences Tool?

[rpr // via gnome-list]

Ken, that Desktop User Guide is very old (see the last modified times
of files in https://people.gnome.org/~bmsmith/) and it does not refer
to GNOME 3 desktop environment used in Fedora 33.

-- rpr.

On Sun, 4 Apr 2021 at 18:23, ken  wrote:
>
> Looking at and following the Desktop User Guide, I was trying to create a new 
> theme (and do a few other things explained there).  I already have and have 
> been using the tweak tool quite a bit, but what is explained in that 
> userguide does not correspond at all to the what's in the tweak tool... iow, 
> it doesn't seem to be the same app, the Preference Tool, mentioned in the 
> userguide.
>
>
> On 4/4/21 6:44 AM, Carl-Valentin Schmitt wrote:
>
> I think Ken means the package
>
> gnome-tweak-tool
>
> You need to install this package
> before you can adjust Gnome.
>
> Greetz. Val.
>
> ken  schrieb am So., 4. Apr. 2021, 11:20:
>>
>> Though I've seen the Preferences Tool mentioned in several gnome docs
>> (including the userguide.pdf), I haven't been able to find it on my
>> system (Fedora 33) or in the repos so I can download and install it.
>> Does it still exist...? or is it perhaps included in a package by some
>> other name?
>>
>> tia.
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Re: how/where to find Gnome Preferences Tool?

[Volker Wysk]

Am Sonntag, den 04.04.2021, 12:23 -0400 schrieb ken:
> Looking at and following the Desktop User Guide, I was trying to create a
> new theme (and do a few other things explained there).  I already have and
> have been using the tweak tool quite a bit, but what is explained in that
> userguide does not correspond at all to the what's in the tweak tool...
> iow, it doesn't seem to be the same app, the Preference Tool, mentioned in
> the userguide.

The copyright (second page) is of 2003-2005. Is Gnome really this old ...?
If so, that Desktop User Guide is completely outdated.

Volker


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Re: how/where to find Gnome Preferences Tool?

[ken]

Looking at and following the Desktop User Guide 
, I was trying to 
create a new theme (and do a few other things explained there).  I 
already have and have been using the tweak tool quite a bit, but what is 
explained in that userguide does not correspond at all to the what's in 
the tweak tool... iow, it doesn't seem to be the same app, the 
Preference Tool, mentioned in the userguide.



On 4/4/21 6:44 AM, Carl-Valentin Schmitt wrote:

I think Ken means the package

gnome-tweak-tool

You need to install this package
before you can adjust Gnome.

Greetz. Val.

ken mailto:m...@newcultures.com>> schrieb am 
So., 4. Apr. 2021, 11:20:


Though I've seen the Preferences Tool mentioned in several gnome docs
(including the userguide.pdf), I haven't been able to find it on my
system (Fedora 33) or in the repos so I can download and install it.
Does it still exist...? or is it perhaps included in a package by
some
other name?

tia.
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Re: how/where to find Gnome Preferences Tool?

[Volker Wysk]

Am Sonntag, den 04.04.2021, 12:44 +0200 schrieb Carl-Valentin Schmitt via
gnome-list:
> I think Ken means the package
> 
> gnome-tweak-tool
> 
> You need to install this package
> before you can adjust Gnome.

"gnome-tweak-tool" is a transitional package. The new package name is
"gnome-tweaks". But both names will work.

Bye,
Volker


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Re: how/where to find Gnome Preferences Tool?

[Carl-Valentin Schmitt via gnome-list]

I think Ken means the package

gnome-tweak-tool

You need to install this package
before you can adjust Gnome.

Greetz. Val.

ken  schrieb am So., 4. Apr. 2021, 11:20:

> Though I've seen the Preferences Tool mentioned in several gnome docs
> (including the userguide.pdf), I haven't been able to find it on my
> system (Fedora 33) or in the repos so I can download and install it.
> Does it still exist...? or is it perhaps included in a package by some
> other name?
>
> tia.
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Re: how/where to find Gnome Preferences Tool?

[Volker Wysk]

Am Sonntag, den 04.04.2021, 05:20 -0400 schrieb ken:
> Though I've seen the Preferences Tool mentioned in several gnome docs 
> (including the userguide.pdf), I haven't been able to find it on my 
> system (Fedora 33) or in the repos so I can download and install it. 
> Does it still exist...? or is it perhaps included in a package by some 
> other name?

Do you mean the Gnome Control Center? Open the activities overview (left
OS/Windows key) and and type "prefe..." or "settings" (it's "Einstellungen"
in German. Don't know the exact phrase for English). The preferences icon
should appear. Click hat.

Hope it helps,
Volker


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