Re: [GNU-linux-libre] GNU+Linux from Source Code
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:56:40 +1200 Bryan Baldwin wrote: > On Tue, 2009-06-30 at 11:43 +0300, Ali Gunduz wrote: > > > > Oh how I would _love_ to have a source based rolling release distribution > > :-) > > > > I recommend you to check out Kongoni GNU/Linux at > > http://kongoni.co.za. It's a slackware-like distro with a bsd inspired > > design which fits very much to what you (and I ;-)) are looking for. > > With its next release (codenamed 'Nietzsche' and currently in beta > > release) the main developer, A.J. Venter, is planning it to be fully > > free and included in the FSF distro list. > > > > Please keep us posted. > > > > Ali > > > > Having a rolling release of buildscripts is one of my more hopeful > goals. Of course, all of the work that I do to administrate my own > machines will get put in, but the crucial factor for success is getting > enough maintainers to put in the work needed to support a respectable > catalogue of buildable software. > > GNU+Linux from Source Code as a design won't even need buildscripts to > be useful, but it wouldn't be an actual distribution until you can get a > bootable machine out of just what comes with it. Just for starters, I'm > only planning to support the basic system (a la Linux from Scratch/DIY > Linux packages), and scale up from there. Since I mean to be a > meta-distribution, there are some lines I do not intend to cross. I > haven't reckoned what they all are yet, but there will be a point past > which policy changes mean the system has become a different > distribution. That's what I see GLFSC as in the first place, a base for > other people's distributions. I support the distribution maker, and they > ultimately support the user. > This issue is very interesting. Do you have an URL of the project?. Perhaps, you are looking for something like "Dragora" that shares some characteristics with "Slackware Linux" and its fully free distro. :-) The boot system is BSD-style, very simple, flexible and transparent. You can see the init scripts from here: http://dragora.org/os/current/source/base/sysvinit-scripts/etc/rc.d The package system is like Slackware, but more powerful. It supports "tbz, tbz2 and tlz" files. The "tlz" format is used by default using the GNU lzip tools maintained by Antonio Diaz Diaz, as it achieves high compression rates. You can use the scripts to build the packages, or install the precompiled ones instead. You can install a minimal base through the package selection from the installation. References: The web site of the project at: http://www.dragora.org P.S: Thanks to Ruben for helping me with the English. ;-)
Re: [GNU-linux-libre] GNU+Linux from Source Code
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:11:41 +1200 Bryan Baldwin wrote: > Hello all, > > I'm developing a prototype build system for GNU+Linux that can be used > stand-alone or as the base for other more refined distributions with > specialized goals. My impetus is to have a flexible design for a > system I would love administering. The vision for my project is to be > to Archlinux what gNewSense is to Ubuntu. Take small bites, and chew thoroughly. > I've named my project _GNU+Linux from Source Code_, a fully free > meta-distribution of the GNU+Linux operating system. Good luck :) kk > Bryan -- Sent mobile, appologies for no GPG sig. Sent offline, appologies if its already been answered better.
Re: [GNU-linux-libre] GNU+Linux from Source Code
On Tue, 2009-06-30 at 11:43 +0300, Ali Gunduz wrote: > > Oh how I would _love_ to have a source based rolling release distribution :-) > > I recommend you to check out Kongoni GNU/Linux at > http://kongoni.co.za. It's a slackware-like distro with a bsd inspired > design which fits very much to what you (and I ;-)) are looking for. > With its next release (codenamed 'Nietzsche' and currently in beta > release) the main developer, A.J. Venter, is planning it to be fully > free and included in the FSF distro list. > > Please keep us posted. > > Ali > Having a rolling release of buildscripts is one of my more hopeful goals. Of course, all of the work that I do to administrate my own machines will get put in, but the crucial factor for success is getting enough maintainers to put in the work needed to support a respectable catalogue of buildable software. GNU+Linux from Source Code as a design won't even need buildscripts to be useful, but it wouldn't be an actual distribution until you can get a bootable machine out of just what comes with it. Just for starters, I'm only planning to support the basic system (a la Linux from Scratch/DIY Linux packages), and scale up from there. Since I mean to be a meta-distribution, there are some lines I do not intend to cross. I haven't reckoned what they all are yet, but there will be a point past which policy changes mean the system has become a different distribution. That's what I see GLFSC as in the first place, a base for other people's distributions. I support the distribution maker, and they ultimately support the user. Bryan
Re: [GNU-linux-libre] GNU+Linux from Source Code
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Bryan Baldwin wrote: > Hello all, > > I'm developing a prototype build system for GNU+Linux that can be used > stand-alone or as the base for other more refined distributions with > specialized goals. My impetus is to have a flexible design for a system > I would love administering. The vision for my project is to be to > Archlinux what gNewSense is to Ubuntu. Oh how I would _love_ to have a source based rolling release distribution :-) > I will not be creating any public repositories for binary > redistributable packages (although others may wish to do so). I only > intend to maintain a collection of scripted build instructions, an init > system, admin tools, and compiled programs that can be used to compile > and manage a GNU+Linux system from source with fine controls and minimal > fuss. > > I don't have any set goals for size, speed, or user application. I'm not > worried about being the most minimal, fastest, or convenient > distribution. Because my design is focused on versatility and > flexibility, I expect its greatest utility will be as a distribution > maker's distribution and basesystem. > > I've named my project _GNU+Linux from Source Code_, a fully free > meta-distribution of the GNU+Linux operating system. > > Bryan I recommend you to check out Kongoni GNU/Linux at http://kongoni.co.za. It's a slackware-like distro with a bsd inspired design which fits very much to what you (and I ;-)) are looking for. With its next release (codenamed 'Nietzsche' and currently in beta release) the main developer, A.J. Venter, is planning it to be fully free and included in the FSF distro list. Please keep us posted. Ali
[GNU-linux-libre] GNU+Linux from Source Code
Hello all, I'm developing a prototype build system for GNU+Linux that can be used stand-alone or as the base for other more refined distributions with specialized goals. My impetus is to have a flexible design for a system I would love administering. The vision for my project is to be to Archlinux what gNewSense is to Ubuntu. I will not be creating any public repositories for binary redistributable packages (although others may wish to do so). I only intend to maintain a collection of scripted build instructions, an init system, admin tools, and compiled programs that can be used to compile and manage a GNU+Linux system from source with fine controls and minimal fuss. I don't have any set goals for size, speed, or user application. I'm not worried about being the most minimal, fastest, or convenient distribution. Because my design is focused on versatility and flexibility, I expect its greatest utility will be as a distribution maker's distribution and basesystem. I've named my project _GNU+Linux from Source Code_, a fully free meta-distribution of the GNU+Linux operating system. Bryan
