Linux: GPLv3, DRM, and Exceptions

2006-10-20 Thread Ciaran O'Riordan
Here's something I wrote about GPLv3 and Devices Rigged to Malfunction: http://kerneltrap.org/node/7238 -- Ciarán O'Riordan __ \ http://fsfeurope.org/projects/gplv3 http://ciaran.compsoc.com/ _ \ GPLv3 and other work supported by http://fsfe.org/fellows/ciaran/weblog \

Re: Gentoo Linux copyright / CDDL question

2006-10-20 Thread James Carlson
Merijn de Weerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Basically, this says if Sun ever forgets to credit you, or performs something you consider a mutilation of your work, you won't sue Sun. That's basically true. If such a thing weren't there, then other contributors (including both people inside Sun

Re: Gentoo Linux copyright / CDDL question

2006-10-20 Thread Drazen Kacar
Casper H.S Dik wrote: Drazen Kacar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Eh? But it says: You agree never to assert against Sun or its licensees or transferees any moral rights therein. That's void under my local copyright law, but the provision certainly is giving copyright rights away.

Re: Gentoo Linux copyright / CDDL question

2006-10-20 Thread Drazen Kacar
James Carlson wrote: Drazen Kacar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: James Carlson wrote: That's void under my local copyright law, Perhaps. I'm not a lawyer, nor do I pretend to be one. Particularly so for the .hr domain. Well, the .hr domain has copyright law which is similar to

Re: Gentoo Linux copyright / CDDL question

2006-10-20 Thread Drazen Kacar
James Carlson wrote: Merijn de Weerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Basically, this says if Sun ever forgets to credit you, or performs something you consider a mutilation of your work, you won't sue Sun. That's basically true. If such a thing weren't there, then other contributors

Re: Gentoo Linux copyright / CDDL question

2006-10-20 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Drazen Kacar wrote: [...] Irish copyright law gives such moral rights to individuals, the said rights are not transferable and there's no way to give them up, as far as Irish law is concerned. http://www.icla.ie/index.php?information Moral rights may be waived, but a waiver must be in

Re: Gentoo Linux copyright / CDDL question

2006-10-20 Thread Drazen Kacar
Alexander Terekhov wrote: Drazen Kacar wrote: [...] Irish copyright law gives such moral rights to individuals, the said rights are not transferable and there's no way to give them up, as far as Irish law is concerned. http://www.icla.ie/index.php?information Moral rights may

Re: Gentoo Linux copyright / CDDL question

2006-10-20 Thread John Hasler
Drazen Kacar writes: USA is as arbitrary third location from my point of view. The whole USA, not just California. And I certainly don't want to be dragged in any USA court. Governed by California law does not mean governed by California courts. It just means that whatever court is

Re: Gentoo Linux copyright / CDDL question

2006-10-20 Thread Merijn de Weerd
On 2006-10-20, James Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Merijn de Weerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Basically, this says if Sun ever forgets to credit you, or performs something you consider a mutilation of your work, you won't sue Sun. That's basically true. If such a thing weren't there, then

Re: Linux: GPLv3, DRM, and Exceptions

2006-10-20 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Ciaran O'Riordan wrote: Devices Rigged to Malfunction Hey FSFE retard, it's malfunction in your brain, not Tivo-like devices. regards, alexander. ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org

Re: PostgreSQL, LGPL and GPL.

2006-10-20 Thread Merijn de Weerd
On 2006-10-20, Karen Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you make create a PostgreSQL database that uses PostGIS and you distribute that database, than your database (tables, stored procedures, views, etc) are GPL? No, because those tables, stored procedures etc. are not derivative works of the

Re: PostgreSQL, LGPL and GPL.

2006-10-20 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Merijn de Weerd wrote: [...] If you distribute the PostgreSQL server software linked with the PostGIS software, then you have to comply with the GPL for both parts of that derivative work. If you don't distribute any server software, you do not have to worry about what the GPL requires.

Re: PostgreSQL, LGPL and GPL.

2006-10-20 Thread John Hasler
Karen Hill writes: If you make create a PostgreSQL database that uses PostGIS and you distribute that database, than your database (tables, stored procedures, views, etc) are GPL? No. Like wise if you create a client that connects to that database, do they also become GPL? No. Does

Re: PostgreSQL, LGPL and GPL.

2006-10-20 Thread Karen Hill
John Hasler wrote: Npgsql is LGPL. It means you must release the source of Npgsql when distributing it, and if you modify Npgsql, but not have to release the source under the (L)GPL of the software that calls Npgsql functions? Pretty much, but you must provide your software in a form

Re: Linux: GPLv3, DRM, and Exceptions

2006-10-20 Thread Ciaran O'Riordan
Alexander Terekhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey FSFE retard, it's malfunction in your brain, not Tivo-like devices. Wow. I'll chalk that down as a win. If the content of the essay left even you with nothing to complain about, I must have hit the mark. -- Ciarán O'Riordan

Re: PostgreSQL, LGPL and GPL.

2006-10-20 Thread John Hasler
I wrote: Pretty much, but you must provide your software in a form that can be relinked. Karen Hill writes: What does that mean? What it says: read the LGPL. If you are dynamically linking you need do nothing special as you are already providing your code in linkable form. You also need not

Re: Linux: GPLv3, DRM, and Exceptions

2006-10-20 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Ciaran O'Riordan wrote: [...] If the content of the essay left even you with nothing to complain about, I must have hit the mark. He he. Chalk that down as whatever, moron. Complain about is/was right below your moronic drivel available at the posted link. Yeah, of course, reply didn't merit a

Re: Linux: GPLv3, DRM, and Exceptions

2006-10-20 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
Sáb, 2006-10-21 às 00:05 +0200, Alexander Terekhov escreveu: Ciaran O'Riordan wrote: [...] If the content of the essay left even you with nothing to complain about, I must have hit the mark. He he. Chalk that down as whatever, moron. Complain about is/was right below your moronic drivel

Re: Gentoo Linux copyright / CDDL question

2006-10-20 Thread James Carlson
Drazen Kacar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nonsense. It protects both Sun and the contributor from being dragged to arbitrary third locations to defend themselves. Dragged by whom? USA is as arbitrary third location from my point of view. The whole USA, not just California. And I certainly