Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- Varghese: is the FSF about to pardon Novell?

2007-05-31 Thread Alexander Terekhov
http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/12554/1090/ -- is the FSF about to pardon Novell? By Sam Varghese Thursday, 31 May 2007 Has the Free Software Foundation, like many others, chosen the path of least resistance and decided to bend with the wind? A Reuters report about the

Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- Reuters: Novell won't be punished for Microsoft deal - source

2007-05-31 Thread Alexander Terekhov
http://www.reuters.com/article/ousiv/idUSN3046168420070531 -- Novell won't be punished for Microsoft deal - source May 31, 2007 By Jim Finkle BOSTON (Reuters) - A foundation that owns rights to much of the code behind Linux software has decided not to carry out threats to punish Novell

Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- Reuters: Novell won't be punished for Microsoft deal - source

2007-05-31 Thread Paolo Gianrossi
Alexander Terekhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] The foundation controls rights to a group of programs known as the GNU operating system, an important part of Linux. [...] Er.. Actually I'd rather say The foundation controls rights to the GNU operating system, of which the Linux

Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- Reuters: Novell won't be punished for Microsoft deal - source

2007-05-31 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Paolo Gianrossi wrote: Alexander Terekhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] The foundation controls rights to a group of programs known as the GNU operating system, an important part of Linux. [...] Er.. Actually I'd rather say The foundation controls rights to the GNU

Re: Did I finally figure out the rationale?

2007-05-31 Thread John Hasler
mike3 writes: Email? Did you mean a Usenet posting? Gnu.misc.discuss is a mailing-list gatewayed to a newsgroup. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI USA ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org

Re: Did I finally figure out the rationale?

2007-05-31 Thread mike3
On May 31, 6:38 am, John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mike3 writes: Email? Did you mean a Usenet posting? Gnu.misc.discuss is a mailing-list gatewayed to a newsgroup. Really. I didn't know, I just thought it was a newsgroup. So then everything here is emails? Whoa... -- John Hasler

Re: Did I finally figure out the rationale?

2007-05-31 Thread mike3
On May 31, 6:38 am, John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mike3 writes: Email? Did you mean a Usenet posting? Gnu.misc.discuss is a mailing-list gatewayed to a newsgroup. Really. I didn't know, I just thought it was a newsgroup. So then everything here is emails? Whoa... -- John Hasler

Re: Did I finally figure out the rationale?

2007-05-31 Thread mike3
On May 28, 1:06 am, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dom, 2007-05-27 às 14:56 -0500, John Hasler escreveu: be described as a copyright license. In fact, most copyright licenses --those between authors and publishers for example-- are contracts as well. No, there are

Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- Varghese: is the FSF about to pardon Novell?

2007-05-31 Thread rjack
Alexander Terekhov wrote: http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/12554/1090/ -- is the FSF about to pardon Novell? By Sam Varghese Thursday, 31 May 2007 Has the Free Software Foundation, like many others, chosen the path of least resistance and decided to bend with the

Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- Varghese: the sting remains, says RMS

2007-05-31 Thread Alexander Terekhov
rjack wrote: [...] Yikes! ACT put the fear of the Lord in Herr Moglen, Stallman and Perens. http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2111879,00.asp Never underestimate http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgezxJJa6aU. :-) http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/12566/1090/ -- GPLv3: the sting

Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- FSF: We are still evaluating the risks and costs associated with this text, and look forward to additional feedback

2007-05-31 Thread Alexander Terekhov
ROFL. http://gplv3.fsf.org/dd3-faq -- We attack the Microsoft-Novell deal from two angles. First, in the fourth paragraph of section 11, the draft says that if you arrange to provide patent protection to some of the people who get the software from you, that protection is automatically

Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- CRN: GPL 3 'Last Call' Draft Issued, Adoption Date Set In June

2007-05-31 Thread Alexander Terekhov
http://www.crn.com/software/199800125 - GPL 3 'Last Call' Draft Issued, Adoption Date Set In June By Stacy Cowley, CRN 4:53 PM EDT The Free Software Foundation (FSF) issued a last call draft of the GNU General Public License (GPL) version 3 today, the final iteration in a two-year drafting

Re: Did I finally figure out the rationale?

2007-05-31 Thread Richard Tobin
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], mike3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gnu.misc.discuss is a mailing-list gatewayed to a newsgroup. Really. I didn't know, I just thought it was a newsgroup. So then everything here is emails? Whoa... No, it's both. Some people read it and post to it through usenet,

Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- EDG: the FSF means that it sees no legal way

2007-05-31 Thread Alexander Terekhov
- China Martens (IDG News Service) [...] By incompatible, the FSF means that it sees no legal way to combine code licensed under GPLv2 with code under GPLv3. Such incompatibility is only an issue if developers want to link, merge or combine code from programs licensed under GPLv2 and GPLv3.

Re: The death of copyright in software

2007-05-31 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Stefaan A Eeckels wrote: [...] structurally Once again (albeit different link): http://www.groklaw.net/articlebasic.php?story=20040715212732854 quote Altai has been viewed as a landmark decision as it incorporates many traditional principles of copyright law into a single analytical

Re: The death of copyright in software

2007-05-31 Thread rjack
Stefaan A Eeckels wrote: On Wed, 30 May 2007 13:51:34 -0500 rjack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can write a POSIX compliant shell that shares not one line of code with another POSIX compliant shell. You can write a C++ compiler that is structurally completely different from another C++