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David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote in message
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Rjack u...@example.net writes:
David Kastrup wrote:
He made the rather audacious and totally unsupported statement
that the GPL software market is worth billions by now
URL:http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2009101015236
Just for the record: I quite disagree with Pamela Jones on her
assessment of the situation. She basically thinks that first sale
should only be claimed by some fuzzy notion of end user or not at all,
and that any different
David Kastrup wrote:
URL:http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2009101015236
Just for the record: I quite disagree with Pamela Jones on her
assessment of the situation. She basically thinks that first sale
For a change, you are in good company, dak. ;-)
To GNUtian Hyman Rosen:
Alexander Terekhov wrote:
To GNUtian Hyman Rosen: see comments below regarding the Blizzard case
that you've liked so much...
I would be thrilled if the Blizzard case were overturned.
I am very much in favor of people being able to reverse-
engineer protocols and do things that are
David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote in message
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amicus_curious a...@sti.net writes:
David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote in message
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Rjack u...@example.net writes:
David Kastrup wrote:
He made the rather audacious and
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amicus_curious a...@sti.net writes:
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Rjack u...@example.net writes:
David Kastrup wrote:
He made the rather audacious and
amicus_curious a...@sti.net writes:
David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote in message
Uh yes. We were talking about _market_ value of GPL software
business. Now you want to exclude everything for which one has to
pay. How much more stupid can you get?
Well I find it difficult to achieve your
Tim Smith wrote:
[...]
Groklaw seems to agree with you. PJ says the Autodesk ruling is poison
for FOSS and hopes it is overturned.
http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2009101015236
Yeah, yeah.
Well, at least her own pseudo-paralegal conclusions are quite a
contribution on the
Alexander Terekhov wrote:
Well, at least her own pseudo-paralegal conclusions are quite a
contribution on the recreational front! ;-)
I don't know why she seems to have gone off the deep end
over this; she seems to have forgotten that first sale
does not affect the rights of the copyright
Hyman Rosen wrote:
[...]
rights of the copyright holder. Creating the copies allowed
by the first does not give you permission to distribute them.
Facts:
(1)
http://www.copyright.gov/reports/studies/dmca/sec-104-report-vol-1.pdf
There is no dispute that section 109 applies to works in
Alexander Terekhov wrote:
lawfully made tangible copy
The copies made for personal use, under the GPL's
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html You may
make, run and propagate covered works that you do
not convey provision aren't the lawfully made
tangible copies you're looking for.
Hyman Rosen wrote:
Alexander Terekhov wrote:
lawfully made tangible copy
The copies made for personal use, under the GPL's ...
*Run* to doctor, Hyman.
regards,
alexander.
--
http://gng.z505.com/index.htm
(GNG is a derecursive recursive derecursion which pwns GNU since it can
be
Alexander Terekhov wrote:
[... http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2009101015236 ...]
Well, at least her own pseudo-paralegal conclusions are quite a
contribution on the recreational front! ;-)
The latest ones... priceless!
Authored by: PJ on Tuesday, October 13 2009 @ 01:35 PM EDT
Alexander Terekhov wrote:
Hyman Rosen wrote:
Alexander Terekhov wrote:
lawfully made tangible copy
The copies made for personal use, under the GPL's ...
*Run* to doctor, Hyman.
As an illustrative example, imagine that you videotape an
over-the-air broadcast television program. Do you
LOL. Unbelievable!!!
http://www.groklaw.net/comment.php?mode=displaysid=2009101015236title=GPL%20%3D%2F%3D%20EULA%21%21%21%21%21type=articleorder=DESChideanonymous=0pid=793329#c793360
Authored by: PJ on Tuesday, October 13 2009 @ 01:39 PM EDT
You are missing the point. It doesn't matter if
Hyman Rosen wrote:
[...]
As an illustrative example, imagine that you videotape an
over-the-air broadcast television program. Do you believe
that first-sale allows you to sell the videotape? Do you
I believe that transfer of a fair use copy is subject to fair use
analysis just like the act of
In article ib3bm.3197$ku5.2...@newsfe04.iad,
Hyman Rosen hyro...@mail.com wrote:
Alexander Terekhov wrote:
Hyman Rosen wrote:
Alexander Terekhov wrote:
lawfully made tangible copy
The copies made for personal use, under the GPL's ...
*Run* to doctor, Hyman.
As an illustrative
blockquote
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reminder=At 6:00 pm today, Tuesday 13 October 2009,
the NYLUG Python Workshop meets at
NY Public Library Hudson Park Branch
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To: NYLUG
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Chattels and software - a thought exercise
Authored by: swmcd on Tuesday, October 13 2009 @ 02:55 PM EDT
I'm completely lost.
First sale works great with books. You can't run off a million copies
of a book in ten
Hyman Rosen wrote:
Alexander Terekhov wrote:
Hyman Rosen wrote:
Alexander Terekhov wrote:
lawfully made tangible copy
The copies made for personal use, under the GPL's ...
*Run* to doctor, Hyman.
As an illustrative example, imagine that you videotape an
over-the-air broadcast television
Rjack wrote:
How does an over-the-air broadcast television program relate
to an over-the-internet computer program licensed under a FOSS license?
Both of them are legally copied in a way which restricts
further distribution of the copies.
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David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote in message
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amicus_curious a...@sti.net writes:
David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote in message
Uh yes. We were talking about _market_ value of GPL software
business. Now you want to exclude everything for which one has to
Hyman Rosen hyro...@mail.com wrote in message
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Rjack wrote:
How does an over-the-air broadcast television program relate
to an over-the-internet computer program licensed under a FOSS license?
Both of them are legally copied in a way which
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