Re: Win8 Why?

2012-07-23 Thread Miles Bader
Red Blade penac...@yomomma.hot.invalid writes: So from a user's perspective, what is Win8 supposed to improve/do different than Win7 ? Win8 turns back the clock of progress 20 years, devolving computers into giant Playskool toys with a giant Internet Explorer button. Heh; from Fisher-price

Re: The future of Skype for Linux

2011-05-24 Thread Miles Bader
Florian Weimer f...@deneb.enyo.de writes: One very convenient thing about Skype is the skype in and skype out services -- they let you use skype for calling from a normal phone, or calling somebody on a normal phone. Are there any companies that offer this service using a free protocol...?

Re: The future of Skype for Linux

2011-05-24 Thread Miles Bader
Michael M n...@ingtotell.you writes: As far as the future of Skype on GNU/Linux is concerned, there isn't one. I think people need to start looking at the free alternatives that are available now rather than locking themeselves in even more with Skype. One very convenient thing about

Re: Why backquotes in GNU documentation?

2011-02-11 Thread Miles Bader
John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com writes: [Balanced delimiters are] useful how? For instance, they can be used by a program invoking the compiler (emacs, an IDE, etc) do highlighting of the enclosed text. That would be useful if it were done anywhere but Gnu documentation. It isn't. I'm

Re: Why backquotes in GNU documentation?

2011-02-10 Thread Miles Bader
John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com writes: I find it amazing that people go to such great lengths to try (emphasis here...) and fix this. I've never tried to fix this. For instance, gcc actually uses unicode quotes if LANG (or whatever) suggests it's possible... -Miles -- `The suburb is an

Re: Why backquotes in GNU documentation?

2011-02-10 Thread Miles Bader
John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com writes: ...the usefulness of balanced delimiters... Useful how? For instance, they can be used by a program invoking the compiler (emacs, an IDE, etc) do highlighting of the enclosed text. The use of ` to mark the start of such sequences is particularly useful

Re: Why backquotes in GNU documentation?

2011-02-08 Thread Miles Bader
Richard Kettlewell r...@greenend.org.uk writes: Some fonts have the apostrophe represented by, approximately speaking, the mirror image of the grave accent. In that case `htonl' looks like it has balanced quotes. These days ‘single’ and “double” quotes are available in Unicode. Unicode

Re: Why backquotes in GNU documentation?

2011-02-08 Thread Miles Bader
Barry Margolin bar...@alum.mit.edu writes: Now, I was wondering what could be the reason behind this convention. Why not use just straight quotes also in front of the quoted word? It's an attempt to emulate proper left and right single quotation marks in ASCII. I don't like it. Neither

Re: The SFLC dismissals should be coming soon

2010-02-22 Thread Miles Bader
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 2:14 AM, Victor Tarabola Cortiano victorcorti...@gmail.com wrote: [In a typical silly net flamewar, one might explain it as simple pigheadedness and unwillingness to admit error (AFAICT, these are the common driving forces), but he's been spewing his bile so frequently,

Re: The SFLC dismissals should be coming soon

2010-02-21 Thread Miles Bader
David Kastrup d...@gnu.org writes: Alexander Terekhov terek...@web.de writes: ... rants incoherently ... Your rants are obviously not helping either your case, your reputation, or your mood. Why bother? Something I've always wondered. Terekhov's endless anti-free-software diatribes must

Re: Is Wikipedia censorship or...

2009-12-15 Thread Miles Bader
Cork Soaker thunderb...@intrepid.invalid writes: ...just a bunch of conceited, immature, juvenile, control-freaks who get picked on every day by the school bully and take it out on the Internet when they get off the bus? What are you going on about, loon? Clearly his attempts to spam his

Re: why aren't gnu utils normalized?

2009-09-02 Thread Miles Bader
Bob Fry bob...@mailinator.com writes: Well, I wouldn't touch the traditional single-letter options. Instead, fix the double-dash options. Again, I don't think it would be huge. The various programs which compose GNU were written by many different people, and are often still maintained

Re: Google to launch PC operating system

2009-07-10 Thread Miles Bader
Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de writes: I must say, I'd welcome a system where I can get straight to a browser without having to go through the excessiveness of X-Windows and a typical window-manager like KDE or GNOME. What'd _totally_ be cool would be if you could that while your heavy system

Re: Copyright Misuse Doctrine in Apple v. Psystar

2009-02-23 Thread Miles Bader
Peter Köhlmann peter.koehlm...@arcor.de writes: amicus_curious wrote: ... Yep, you get dumber by the second. Heavy ingestion of alcoholic beverages? Drug abuse? Excessive Windows use? -Miles -- Would you like fries with that? ___

Re: Which OS You Are Using?

2008-12-28 Thread Miles Bader
Me too: debian sid. -Miles -- Egotist, n. A person of low taste, more interested in himself than in me. ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss

Re: Copyright vs Open Source

2008-09-19 Thread Miles Bader
Mike Jervis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: However, I'm a little disconcerted to see that they have batch processed all source code and claimed copyright to all files, with a note that it's based on work from the original project which was copyright by {list of original authors}. My gut feeling

Re: Freedom. . . the GPL benefit

2008-09-19 Thread Miles Bader
Gary Nym? -Miles -- Freebooter, n. A conqueror in a small way of business, whose annexations lack of the sanctifying merit of magnitude. ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss

Re: SFLC's GPL court enforcement -- track record

2008-07-27 Thread Miles Bader
David Kastrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That one's easy. Suppose that his wife is a three-headed fire-breathing dragon. You are toast. Mmmm, toast -Miles -- Dictionary, n. A malevolent literary device for cramping the growth of a language and making it hard and inelastic. This

Re: Free software, free speech, human dignity

2008-07-04 Thread Miles Bader
Andreas Röhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Maybe take some books from Noam Chomsky or Howard Zinn and read about your political and legal system. Ah, you're one of _those_... I was wondering where your (rather incoherent, but that might have been a language problem) ranting was leading. -Miles

Re: When is a GPL program which runs in a web site 'conveyed'?

2008-06-26 Thread Miles Bader
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do I understand you correctly, that in the U.S. we could ignore all GPL statements? I'm sorry, it's hard for me to get what your explanations imply, and we have no legal department to ask for help. Just ignore rjack, he's a troll. Very little of what he says is

Re: Red Hat pays $800,000 + costs for a patent deal

2008-06-15 Thread Miles Bader
Linonut [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As far as I can tell, rjack is simply a troll. Yup. He's the dim one too. -Miles -- The car has become... an article of dress without which we feel uncertain, unclad, and incomplete. [Marshall McLuhan, Understanding Media, 1964]

Re: Red Hat pays $800,000 + costs for a patent deal

2008-06-15 Thread Miles Bader
Linonut [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does that mean Terekhov is the smart one? Terekhov is the rabid one. -Miles -- Politeness, n. The most acceptable hypocrisy. ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org

Re: Using non-GPL libraries in a GPL program

2008-06-04 Thread Miles Bader
Heh, you've really got the trolls riled up today! -Miles -- Barometer, n. An ingenious instrument which indicates what kind of weather we are having. ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org

Re: Using non-GPL libraries in a GPL program

2008-05-29 Thread Miles Bader
Dave Crossland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He does get his info directly from lawyers; and this cannot be said for Terekhov. So it is foolish to forget what RMS says just because he doesn't have a degree in law. This is true of Stallman's written works, but I would be very wary of putting any

Re: NYC LOCAL: Wednesday 2 April 2008 NYCBUG: Ike and Yarema on ZFS and FreeBSD

2008-04-02 Thread Miles Bader
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ZFS the breakthrough file system in FreeBSD 7 (ported from Sun's Solaris 10 Operating System) delivers virtually unlimited capacity, provable data integrity, and near-zero administration. ... and massive amounts of silly hype, something not usually associated with

Re: NYC LOCAL: Wednesday 27 February 2008 NYLUG: Jim Gleason on KVM, The Next Wave of Virtualization

2008-02-25 Thread Miles Bader
Bill O'Connor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How can you expect to attract anything but a super geek, who is most likely using Linux already, with topics like the ones you present? How would you get such people to attend a meeting of computer users? By definition, only geeks would attend such a

Re: 4 OOXML links: Deprecated before use, BRM access, patents, pic

2008-02-20 Thread Miles Bader
Tim Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there any particular reason for all that FUD here, rather than in a group where it would be on topic? Why is it FUD? -Miles -- Alone, adj. In bad company. ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list

Re: NYC LOCAL: Saturday 23 February 2008 NYUFCC: OLPC Jam Session

2008-02-17 Thread Miles Bader
Moshe Goldfarb [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why do these weekly posts look like some badly formatted, difficult to read, article that floated around on some list server circa 1977? Are you guys trying feel like it's 1970 complete with green/orange screen and punched cards again? They look like

Re: How do Free software developers get money?

2008-02-03 Thread Miles Bader
Alfred M. Szmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, I want the questions taken seriously, since I want a real and understandable answer so I can put the questions to bed, I want to learn! The best way is not to ask questions, but to find them yourself. It also helps to not ignore the

Re: How do Free software developers get money?

2008-02-02 Thread Miles Bader
David Kastrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anyway, your trolling is becoming unimaginative at the moment: you went through all this already previously. Try something more original. It seems like mike3's done this exact same troll 50 or 60 times. He waits a bit in between attempts, presumably in

Re: Free Software Lifestyle

2007-12-31 Thread Miles Bader
Koh Choon Lin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nobody around me in life and work communicated using ODF or TXT and people just assumed I am crazy to use them. You have to understand that non-free-software people are often a bit slow... -Miles -- Ich bin ein Virus. Mach' mit und kopiere mich in

Re: GPL Question

2007-12-12 Thread Miles Bader
Ryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ummm, anyone want to address my question? You only posted it about 10 hours ago even if somebody is interested in the issue, you still have to give them time to read it. -Miles -- The key to happiness is having dreams. [from a fortune cookie]

Re: GNU/Linux Naming

2007-12-09 Thread Miles Bader
Alfred M. Szmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm not sure what you mean by for Mach, but if you mean one doesn't call it Mach then you're mistaken. I have often heard people refer to it that way, and I can't recall ever hearing them refer to it as BSD. Would be the first time I

Re: GNU/Linux Naming

2007-12-09 Thread Miles Bader
Alfred M. Szmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Or, put differently, you got eggplant on your face. I think you mean `an eggplant', now who has the dirty face? Eggplant without an is a mass-noun referring to the material of an eggplant. Something you're much more likely to have on your face

Re: GNU/Linux Naming

2007-12-06 Thread Miles Bader
Noah Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think it is enough to feed the trolls with a reference. I don't think OP was trolling. The OP is a notorious troll on this group. Trust me, he was trolling. -Miles -- x y Z! ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing

Re: SFLC files 2nd intimidation suit

2007-11-21 Thread Miles Bader
wh troll cluster-fuck! -miles -- Most attacks seem to take place at night, during a rainstorm, uphill, where four map sheets join. -- Anon. British Officer in WW I ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org

Re: GPL client locked into closed source backend - is this really GPL?

2007-11-12 Thread Miles Bader
Tim Shephard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you have a client-server application and GPL the client but it has a very broad and very tight protocol coupling with a backend server that is closed source .. is that really GPL? One example of this is Second Life, where the client speaks a very fat

Re: GPL question

2007-10-23 Thread Miles Bader
Alfred M. Szmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Alfred does not represent or speak for GNU. Since you don't either represent or speak for GNU, you really can't state that now can you? Sure I can. Anyway, to reiterate: Alfred does not represent or speak for GNU. -Miles -- Run away! Run

Re: GPL question

2007-10-19 Thread Miles Bader
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am not a lawyer, so I can only offer a common sense opinion: Which sadly, is not much common sense. I see GNU likes civilized discourse. Alfred does not represent or speak for GNU. -Miles -- /\ /\ (^.^) ()) *This is the cute kitty virus, please copy this

Re: GPL question

2007-10-14 Thread Miles Bader
John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Rjack is a troll. There is no point in trying to make sense of what he writes. FWIW, Mike Cox is a troll too, though perhaps a slightly more subtle one than bumblers like rjack or wigged out nutcases like Terekhov. -Miles -- 1971 pickup truck; will

Re: GNU FUD

2007-05-27 Thread Miles Bader
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Date: Sat, 26 May 2007 05:51:49 -0500 From: rjack [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) Er, David's right -- I only see [EMAIL PROTECTED]; apparently either some software on your end appends your

Re: Transcript of RMS's general free software speech

2007-01-09 Thread Miles Bader
Ciaran O'Riordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No one asked me to make that, but I knew people would find it useful, so I made it - and a lot of people have said thanks. Morever, it's a good sign that you must being doing something right if Terekhov has started whining about it... -Miles -- Ich

Re: autotools automake autoconf

2007-01-04 Thread Miles Bader
Ron Baker,Pluralitas! [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you add file3.c, just make sure it's included in foo_SOURCES: foo_SOURCES = file1.c file2.c file3.c hdr1.h That will make sure it gets built and linked into foo, and will take care of all dependency generation etc. I did that and

Re: autotools automake autoconf

2007-01-03 Thread Miles Bader
Ron Baker,Pluralitas! [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It just sets the environment variable AUTOMAKE to automake --foreign and then runs autoreconf -i (when autoreconf tries to run automake, it Did you leave out a semicolon? AUTOMAKE=automake --foreign; autoreconf -i No; without the

Re: autotools automake autoconf

2006-12-30 Thread Miles Bader
Ron Baker,Pluralitas! [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The one really stupid part though is the rigmarole of running the various programs in the right order (as you seemed to have been asking That doesn't sound dead simple to me. ;) Well, writing the input files is dead simple -- it's only this

Re: autotools automake autoconf

2006-12-28 Thread Miles Bader
Ron Baker,Pluralitas! [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I first learned of m4 twenty years ago, when I was just learning Unix. Then after a couple years I actually used m4. I thought it was pretty cool. Then I never heard any mention of m4 until yesterday. Strange. It's a fun piece of trivia,

Re: Free Software Law Center and the FSF repudiated the GPL

2006-12-22 Thread Miles Bader
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Conspiration-theory nuts like you only tend to bother people. Tend? Now there's a question: Has Terekhov _ever_ made a useful, readable post, which the majority of readers appreciated? [Not an idle question actually -- I've noticed a bunch of

Re: Oracle's GNU/linux distro is out. Free Software is blindsided.

2006-11-03 Thread Miles Bader
Trollin' trollin' trollin' Though they're disapprovin', Keep them doggies flamin' Rawhide! -miles -- 1971 pickup truck; will trade for guns ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org

Re: NYC LOCAL: Thursday 26 October 2006 NYU Free Culture Club General Meeting

2006-10-26 Thread Miles Bader
Keith Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm not commenting on whether the NYC LOCAL messages are appropriate or not. While the original gripe was apparently mis-posted to gnu.misc.discuss, FWIW, I rather like the lxny postings (even though I don't live in NYC). They add a nice sort of

Re: Can linux kernel claim it uses GPL v2?

2006-10-15 Thread Miles Bader
David Kastrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The systems glibc is known to work on as of this release, and most probably in the future, are: I read on the debian-devel mailing list that glibc has been ported to the freebsd kernel (a message in the debian on minux thread, saying that porting

Re: GNU licenses

2006-09-07 Thread Miles Bader
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Tobin) writes: Then you'd better stop releasing your code under the GPL (or any other Free license) because they certainly can make money out of it and not pay you any. Very likely, but it's not so important that I'm going to go to great lengths about it. It seems to

Re: indent problem

2006-07-15 Thread Miles Bader
s. keeling [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think it depends on what you've taught yourself. I've taught myself to expect that that brace should be at the end of the line, so I have no trouble finding it. That's the case with many formatting issues, but I think it's less clear here -- something on

Re: Dr. Bill Gates, Philanthropist, Genius, and Visionary. FSF? What has it done?

2006-06-23 Thread Miles Bader
Karen Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Honorary PhDs are real degrees. In fact in academic circles, an honorary PhD is thought of very highly because No they're not, they're a joke. My god if you're going to troll, at least try to do a halfway competent job... -Miles -- In New York, most

Re: GPL and inhouse use?

2006-05-16 Thread Miles Bader
Eric [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: so its basically if i modify any gpl'd code I must give away my changes whether or not i keep it 'in-house' ? No. Go troll somewhere else. -Miles -- Next to fried food, the South has suffered most from oratory. -- Walter Hines Page

Re: Hey Terekhov: Wallace lost. Who'd guess.... ;)

2006-05-16 Thread Miles Bader
wow, this really has you freaking out Terekhov... -miles -- `Suppose Korea goes to the World Cup final against Japan and wins,' Moon said. `All the past could be forgiven.' [NYT] ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org

Re: C/C++ statements and assembly mixed listing

2006-03-13 Thread Miles Bader
Allan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As everyone knows, gcc -S file.c will generate file.s. Is it possible to generate a file which has C statements followed by their assemblies. You can do it using objdump: $ objdump --help Usage: objdump option(s) file(s) ... -d, --disassemble