Re: [News] SFLC Responds to Copyright Misconceptions, Presents Moglen Talk

2010-02-10 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Spamowitz Roy http://boycott-boycottnovell.com/index.php/the-news/88-roy-schestowitz-demands-expansion-of-qgodwins-lawq wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Copyrights and wrongs http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2010/02/08/copyrights-and-wrongs/ See comments.

Re: [News] SFLC Responds to Copyright Misconceptions, Presents Moglen Talk

2010-02-10 Thread David Kastrup
Alexander Terekhov terek...@web.de writes: At some point, the New York bar will have no choice but to disbar the entire gang of utterly incompetent GNU arch legal beagles from SFLC for consistent filing of frivolous lawsuits such as

Re: [News] SFLC Responds to Copyright Misconceptions, Presents Moglen Talk

2010-02-10 Thread Hyman Rosen
On 2/10/2010 10:08 AM, Alexander Terekhov wrote: At some point, the New York bar will have no choice but to disbar the entire gang of utterly incompetent GNU arch legal beagles from SFLC for consistent filing of frivolous lawsuits such as

Re: [News] SFLC Responds to Copyright Misconceptions, Presents Moglen Talk

2010-02-10 Thread Alexander Terekhov
David Kastrup wrote: Alexander Terekhov terek...@web.de writes: David Kastrup wrote: [...] A compilation work which you call 'MacOSX' is a collective work (see 17 USC 101 for both 'compilation' and 'collective work') of Apple and only Apple, silly. Without any components

Re: [News] SFLC Responds to Copyright Misconceptions, Presents Moglen Talk

2010-02-10 Thread Hyman Rosen
On 2/10/2010 11:30 AM, RJack wrote: The plaintiffs chose to file automatic involuntary dismissals The words chose and involuntary don't go together. You appear to have ongoing difficulties with the English language, which perhaps explains some of your difficulty understanding the GPL and the

Re: [News] SFLC Responds to Copyright Misconceptions, Presents Moglen Talk

2010-02-10 Thread David Kastrup
Alexander Terekhov terek...@web.de writes: David Kastrup wrote: So for any component with copyrighted parts from other parties (like BSD), Apple could not sue for breach of copyright without having the other parties joining the suit? Reality check... Apple's COMPILATION WORK is NOT A

Re: [News] SFLC Responds to Copyright Misconceptions, Presents Moglen Talk

2010-02-10 Thread David Kastrup
RJack u...@example.net writes: Hyman Rosen wrote: On 2/10/2010 10:08 AM, Alexander Terekhov wrote: At some point, the New York bar will have no choice but to disbar the entire gang of utterly incompetent GNU arch legal beagles from SFLC for consistent filing of frivolous lawsuits such as

Re: [News] SFLC Responds to Copyright Misconceptions, Presents Moglen Talk

2010-02-10 Thread Alexander Terekhov
David Kastrup wrote: [...] Apple took some BSD'd works and included that stuff in a compilation work exclusively (C) by Apple and only Apple. How did the copyright of BSD come to cease on the portions that Apple changed? BSD copyright didn't come to cease (it's too early for expiration

Re: [News] SFLC Responds to Copyright Misconceptions, Presents Moglen Talk

2010-02-10 Thread David Kastrup
Alexander Terekhov terek...@web.de writes: David Kastrup wrote: [...] Apple took some BSD'd works and included that stuff in a compilation work exclusively (C) by Apple and only Apple. How did the copyright of BSD come to cease on the portions that Apple changed? BSD copyright didn't

Re: [News] SFLC Responds to Copyright Misconceptions, Presents Moglen Talk

2010-02-10 Thread Alexander Terekhov
David Kastrup wrote: [...] Why would a defendant make the GPLed sources available There's no reason to do it -- to wit: http://www2.verizon.net/micro/actiontec/actiontec.asp To Hyman: take your meds first! regards, alexander. P.S. It is just like a suit to enforce a copyright license, which

Re: [News] SFLC Responds to Copyright Misconceptions, Presents Moglen Talk

2010-02-10 Thread David Kastrup
Alexander Terekhov terek...@web.de writes: David Kastrup wrote: [...] Why would a defendant make the GPLed sources available There's no reason to do it -- to wit: http://www2.verizon.net/micro/actiontec/actiontec.asp That's a link to a firmware upgrade. This firmware update is applicable

Re: [News] SFLC Responds to Copyright Misconceptions, Presents Moglen Talk

2010-02-10 Thread Alexander Terekhov
David Kastrup wrote: [...] BSD copyright didn't come to cease (it's too early for expiration and I'm unaware of any abandonment/dedications to the public domain of the BSD'd works) on the BSD'd portions that Apple changed unless Apple's changes resulted in a complete removal of BSD'd

Re: [News] SFLC Responds to Copyright Misconceptions, Presents Moglen Talk

2010-02-10 Thread Alexander Terekhov
David Kastrup wrote: Alexander Terekhov terek...@web.de writes: David Kastrup wrote: [...] Why would a defendant make the GPLed sources available There's no reason to do it -- to wit: http://www2.verizon.net/micro/actiontec/actiontec.asp That's a link to a firmware upgrade.

Re: [News] SFLC Responds to Copyright Misconceptions, Presents Moglen Talk

2010-02-10 Thread RJack
Hyman Rosen wrote: On 2/10/2010 10:39 AM, Alexander Terekhov wrote: Erik Andersen's alleged (and fraudulent in fact) claim of ownership http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Gaiman_v._McFarlane In addition to the copyright notices, McFarlane registered copyright on the issues and the books. ...

Re: [News] SFLC Responds to Copyright Misconceptions, Presents Moglen Talk

2010-02-10 Thread David Kastrup
RJack u...@example.net writes: David Kastrup wrote: RJack u...@example.net writes: Hyman Rosen wrote: The SFLC has had successful outcomes in every single case that it has filed - all defendants have come into compliance with the GPL. No defendant has chosen to fight the plaintiffs. The

Re: [News] SFLC Responds to Copyright Misconceptions, Presents Moglen Talk

2010-02-10 Thread Hyman Rosen
On 2/10/2010 1:15 PM, Alexander Terekhov wrote: That where to get is NOT Verizon's location and has nothing to do with Verison's location above, silly dak. The online distribution of GPLed firmware by Verizon is accompanied by source found at

Re: [News] SFLC Responds to Copyright Misconceptions, Presents Moglen Talk

2010-02-10 Thread Peter Köhlmann
Alexander Terekhov wrote: Peter Köhlmann wrote: [...] That where to get is NOT Verizon's location and has nothing to do with Verison's location above, silly dak. Oh, and you twit can certainly point to the exact place in the GPL where

Re: [News] SFLC Responds to Copyright Misconceptions, Presents Moglen Talk

2010-02-10 Thread RJack
RJack wrote: Hyman Rosen wrote: On 2/10/2010 10:39 AM, Alexander Terekhov wrote: Erik Andersen's alleged (and fraudulent in fact) claim of ownership http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Gaiman_v._McFarlane In addition to the copyright notices, McFarlane registered copyright on the issues and the

Re: [News] SFLC Responds to Copyright Misconceptions, Presents Moglen Talk

2010-02-10 Thread Hyman Rosen
On 2/10/2010 3:53 PM, RJack wrote: 37 CFR § 202.3 Registration of copyright. (3) For the purposes of this section, a copyright claimant is either: (i) The author of a work; (ii) A person or organization that has obtained ownership of all rights under the copyright initially belonging to the