Re: Are Microsoft’s patent lawyers really this dumb?

2007-07-14 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt
Sure I can, I am talking about the actual _LICENSE_. The FSF even sells nicely printed copies of it, did you know that? You mean the license _document_. The license is an abstact bundle of rights. You deserve a cookie for nitpicking. :-)

Re: Are Microsoft’s patent lawyers really this dumb?

2007-07-13 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt
Alfred M. Szmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Not really. You can use it to license commercial software, but since the demand is that it is to be licensed as a whole at no charge, while you can charge for a copy of the _software_, the license itself is not a

Re: Are Microsoft’s patent lawyers really this dumb?

2007-07-11 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt
Not really. You can use it to license commercial software, but since the demand is that it is to be licensed as a whole at no charge, while you can charge for a copy of the _software_, the license itself is not a commercial item. Sure it is, you can charge several millions for a copy

Re: Are Microsoft’s patent lawyers really this dumb?

2007-07-11 Thread David Kastrup
Alfred M. Szmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Not really. You can use it to license commercial software, but since the demand is that it is to be licensed as a whole at no charge, while you can charge for a copy of the _software_, the license itself is not a commercial item. Sure

Re: Re: Are Microsoft’s patent lawyers really this dumb?

2007-07-09 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt
I think I better stick to either public domain or commercial licenses for now, at least until I become a lawyer or able to afford one! Great, then you can stick with the GPL, since it is a commercial license as well! ___ gnu-misc-discuss

Re: Are Microsoft’s patent lawyers really this dumb?

2007-07-08 Thread David Kastrup
Kurt Häusler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 19:15:48 +1200, Jonathan Walker wrote: Any person who distributes GPL3 code cannot subsequently sue the recipient of that code - or anybody else - for any alleged patent violations because the GPL3 requires that or else that person

Re: Are Microsoft’s patent lawyers really this dumb?

2007-07-08 Thread Peter
Kurt Häusler wrote: I am a bit worried myself as I used to work for a company writing open source linux drivers (but not in the kernel or any distros) implementing patented protocols and algorithms with permission, under the gpl2 (or any later version), just trying to do the right thing,

Re: Are Microsoft’s patent lawyers really this dumb?

2007-07-08 Thread Kurt Häusler
On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 11:55:07 +0200, David Kastrup wrote: Kurt Häusler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now I wrote most of the code, and placed the copyright under ownership of the FSF. How so? By leaving their name in the text of the gpl license file rather than say overwriting it with either

Re: Are Microsoft’s patent lawyers really this dumb?

2007-07-08 Thread David Kastrup
Kurt Häusler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 11:55:07 +0200, David Kastrup wrote: Kurt Häusler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now I wrote most of the code, and placed the copyright under ownership of the FSF. How so? By leaving their name in the text of the gpl license file

Re: Are Microsoft’s patent lawyers really this dumb?

2007-07-08 Thread Kurt Häusler
On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 12:24:38 +0200, David Kastrup wrote: Kurt Häusler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: By leaving their name in the text of the gpl license file rather than say overwriting it with either my name or my employer's name. Which is standard practice right? Sigh. That makes the

Re: Are Microsoft’s patent lawyers really this dumb?

2007-07-08 Thread Kurt Häusler
On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 22:36:20 +1200, Jonathan Walker wrote: If *you* own the copyrights, then *you* can choose what license you want to release the software under. If your company owns the copyrights, then your company can choose what license it wants to release the software under.

Re: Are Microsoft’s patent lawyers really this dumb?

2007-07-08 Thread David Kastrup
Kurt Häusler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 22:36:20 +1200, Jonathan Walker wrote: If *you* own the copyrights, then *you* can choose what license you want to release the software under. If your company owns the copyrights, then your company can choose what license it

Re: Are Microsoft’s patent lawyers really this dumb?

2007-07-08 Thread rjack
You have to admit it. Microsoft's lawyers are real morons. Just think about it. They are probably making $250,000 a year. The top tax bracket is 37.6 percent. Now you have to assume since they are really stupid that they don't know about tax shelters and the like. So that leaves them paying

Re: Are Microsoft’s patent lawyers really this dumb?

2007-07-08 Thread rjack
rjack wrote: You have to admit it. Microsoft's lawyers are real morons. Just think about it. They are probably making $250,000 a year. The top tax bracket is 37.6 percent. Now you have to assume since they are really stupid that they don't know about tax shelters and the like. So that leaves