Re: consider the facts of the Stac case..

2009-03-05 Thread Erik Funkenbusch
On Mon, 2 Mar 2009 19:53:21 + (UTC), Vincent Fritters wrote: On 2009-03-02, Doug Mentohl doug_ment...@linuxmail.org wrote: They were a company involved in data compression, before they got fucked over by MS .. And they are not the only ones. Even IBM got burned while playing nice

Re: consider the facts of the Stac case..

2009-03-05 Thread Erik Funkenbusch
On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 19:43:09 + (UTC), Vincent Fritters wrote: On 2009-03-03, Hadron hadronqu...@gmail.com wrote: Vincent Fritters vi...@nowhere.invalid writes: Wrong. Presentation manager was indeed in OS/2 2.x And Warp.

Re: consider the facts of the Stac case..

2009-03-05 Thread Doctor Smith
On Thu, 5 Mar 2009 14:30:39 -0600, Erik Funkenbusch wrote: On Mon, 2 Mar 2009 19:53:21 + (UTC), Vincent Fritters wrote: On 2009-03-02, Doug Mentohl doug_ment...@linuxmail.org wrote: They were a company involved in data compression, before they got fucked over by MS .. And they are

Re: consider the facts of the Stac case..

2009-03-03 Thread Doug Mentohl
amicus_curious wrote: Well, consider the facts of the Stac case. Stac bought a patent for the compression method that they used and Microsoft bought a similar patent for the one that they implemented in DOS themselves. For convenience to their customers, they made their feature able to read

Re: consider the facts of the Stac case..

2009-03-03 Thread Hadron
Vincent Fritters vi...@nowhere.invalid writes: On 2009-03-03, amicus_curious a...@sti.net wrote: Stick with the bologna and goetta, Vince, you are likely to be better at that than you are at remembering the chronological order of things. Microsoft had their falling out with IBM over

Re: consider the facts of the Stac case..

2009-03-03 Thread Hadron
Vincent Fritters vi...@nowhere.invalid writes: On 2009-03-03, Hadron hadronqu...@gmail.com wrote: Vincent Fritters vi...@nowhere.invalid writes: Wrong. Presentation manager was indeed in OS/2 2.x And Warp. http://www.firstandsecond.com/store/books/info/bookinfo.asp?txtSearch=237799 2.x

Re: consider the facts of the Stac case..

2009-03-03 Thread Peter Köhlmann
Hadron wrote: Vincent Fritters vi...@nowhere.invalid writes: On 2009-03-03, Hadron hadronqu...@gmail.com wrote: Vincent Fritters vi...@nowhere.invalid writes: Wrong. Presentation manager was indeed in OS/2 2.x And Warp.

Re: consider the facts of the Stac case..

2009-03-03 Thread Vincent Fritters
On 2009-03-03, amicus_curious a...@sti.net wrote: Stick with the bologna and goetta, Vince, you are likely to be better at that than you are at remembering the chronological order of things. Microsoft had their falling out with IBM over Windows 3.0, not NT. Microsoft were actively

Re: consider the facts of the Stac case..

2009-03-03 Thread Vincent Fritters
On 2009-03-03, Hadron hadronqu...@gmail.com wrote: Vincent Fritters vi...@nowhere.invalid writes: Wrong. Presentation manager was indeed in OS/2 2.x And Warp. http://www.firstandsecond.com/store/books/info/bookinfo.asp?txtSearch=237799 2.x had the workplace shell, although technically it

Re: consider the facts of the Stac case..

2009-03-02 Thread Doug Mentohl
amicus_curious wrote: Well, consider the facts of the Stac case .. Microsoft wanted STAC to give away STACKER, and when they wouldn't comply went ahead and included it in DOS 6.0 anyway renaming it DoubleSpace. When called on it by Stac went to a third party VertiSoft and released

Re: consider the facts of the Stac case..

2009-03-02 Thread Vincent Fritters
On 2009-03-02, Doug Mentohl doug_ment...@linuxmail.org wrote: They were a company involved in data compression, before they got fucked over by MS .. And they are not the only ones. Even IBM got burned while playing nice with Microsoft. While Microsoft was developing OS/2 with IBM, they were

Re: consider the facts of the Stac case..

2009-03-02 Thread amicus_curious
Doug Mentohl doug_ment...@linuxmail.org wrote in message news:goh9sa$mo...@news.datemas.de... amicus_curious wrote: Well, consider the facts of the Stac case .. Microsoft wanted STAC to give away STACKER, and when they wouldn't comply went ahead and included it in DOS 6.0 anyway renaming

Re: consider the facts of the Stac case..

2009-03-02 Thread amicus_curious
Vincent Fritters vi...@nowhere.invalid wrote in message news:gohdfh$aa...@news.albasani.net... On 2009-03-02, Doug Mentohl doug_ment...@linuxmail.org wrote: They were a company involved in data compression, before they got fucked over by MS .. And they are not the only ones. Even IBM got