Re: GPL and other licences

2006-02-12 Thread Alfred M\. Szmidt
| Intellectual property | | Publishers and lawyers like to describe copyright as intellectual | property---a term that also includes patents, trademarks, and other | more obscure areas of law. These laws have so little in common, and | differ so much, that it is ill-advised to generalize about

Re: GPL and other licences

2006-02-12 Thread Graham Murray
David Kastrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Graham Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For example you borrow from the library a book which comes with a CD containing GPL'd software. Under the terms of the GPL are you not entitled to make a copy of that software before returning the book and CD to

Re: GPL and other licences

2006-02-12 Thread Alfred M\. Szmidt
You do not have to be the owner of the copy in order to exercise the rights given in the GPL. You have to be the owner, period. Not according to the GPL: 0. This License applies to any program or other work which contains a notice placed by the copyright holder saying it may be

Re: GPL and other licences

2006-02-12 Thread Stefaan A Eeckels
On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 00:11:52 + Graham Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Kastrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Your access is limited to what the owner of the copy allows you to do with it. The GPL grants rights to the owner of the copy, not to you. Since you have not bought or

Re: GPL and other licences

2006-02-12 Thread Stefaan A Eeckels
On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 12:35:30 +0100 Alfred M\. Szmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please refrain from removing attributions. If you quote, have the decency to include the name of the author. I said: No, he instructed you, as his agent, to do things with the CD. You are not accessing that CD as

Re: GPL and other licences

2006-02-12 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David Kastrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Graham Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For example you borrow from the library a book which comes with a CD containing GPL'd software. Under the terms of the GPL are you not entitled to make a copy of that

Re: GPL and other licences

2006-02-12 Thread John Hasler
Stefaan writes: Obviously, the simple expedient of asking the library to make a copy would give you both a lawful copy and the right to make further copies under the GPL, so to a degree the point is moot. The library could also direct you to make a copy as its agent and then give you the

Re: Intellectual Property II

2006-02-12 Thread Isaac
On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 23:27:50 +0100, Alexander Terekhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isaac wrote: [...] It's not a mistake. Preaching the gospel of first sale according to Alexander appears to be a life mission. http://groups.google.com/group/gnu.misc.discuss/msg/e123816845315e68 quote

Re: GPL and other licences

2006-02-12 Thread Stefaan A Eeckels
On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 17:36:44 + Graham Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stefaan A Eeckels [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The assertion that the GPL gives you the right to make unlawful copies is obviously incorrect, as it is not a right the copyright holder can grant. GPL or otherwise,

Re: GPL and other licences

2006-02-12 Thread Isaac
On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 16:30:45 +0100, David Kastrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isaac [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 14:18:22 +0100, David Kastrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Graham Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David Kastrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Graham Murray [EMAIL

Re: GPL and other licences

2006-02-12 Thread Isaac
On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 18:16:56 +0100, Stefaan A Eeckels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 09:22:38 -0600 Isaac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure whether I agree that you have to own a copy of GPL software to be a licensee You can indeed obtain a license from the copyright

Re: First sale according to COPYRIGHT LAW

2006-02-12 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: [...] Let's analyse some situations: 1. You gave B to a friend that's first sale Right. 1.1 your friend sold B to someone else that's first sale Right. 1.2 your friend sold copies of B to other people (B1, B2, etc...) that's no