Re: Copyright Misuse Doctrine in Apple v. Psystar

2009-02-13 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Alan Mackenzie wrote: [...] Tell me, have there been any cases where somebody has been sued for infringement of the GPL (whichever version), and the resolution of the legal process has allowed him to continue infringing the GPL? Case number 1:07-cv-11070-LTS. On this page

Re: Copyright Misuse Doctrine in Apple v. Psystar

2009-02-13 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Alan Mackenzie wrote: [...] Is RMS a socialist? http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/02/12/cuba_does_linux/ - Cuba has launched its own Linux variant, dubbed Nova. The Nova project has been cooking away for the past year, and it was formally unveiled this week at the annual International

Re: Copyright Misuse Doctrine in Apple v. Psystar

2009-02-13 Thread Alan Mackenzie
In gnu.misc.discuss Alexander Terekhov terek...@web.de wrote: Alan Mackenzie wrote: [...] Tell me, have there been any cases where somebody has been sued for infringement of the GPL (whichever version), and the resolution of the legal process has allowed him to continue infringing the GPL?

Re: Copyright Misuse Doctrine in Apple v. Psystar

2009-02-13 Thread Alan Mackenzie
In gnu.misc.discuss Alexander Terekhov terek...@web.de wrote: Alan Mackenzie wrote: [...] Is RMS a socialist? http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/02/12/cuba_does_linux/ - Cuba has launched its own Linux variant, dubbed Nova. The Nova project has been cooking away for the past year,

Re: Copyright Misuse Doctrine in Apple v. Psystar

2009-02-13 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Alan Mackenzie wrote: In gnu.misc.discuss Alexander Terekhov terek...@web.de wrote: Alan Mackenzie wrote: [...] Tell me, have there been any cases where somebody has been sued for infringement of the GPL (whichever version), and the resolution of the legal process has allowed him

Re: Copyright Misuse Doctrine in Apple v. Psystar

2009-02-13 Thread Alan Mackenzie
In gnu.misc.discuss Alexander Terekhov terek...@web.de wrote: Alan Mackenzie wrote: In gnu.misc.discuss Alexander Terekhov terek...@web.de wrote: Alan Mackenzie wrote: [...] Tell me, have there been any cases where somebody has been sued for infringement of the GPL (whichever

Re: Copyright Misuse Doctrine in Apple v. Psystar

2009-02-13 Thread Hyman Rosen
Alexander Terekhov wrote: On this page http://www2.verizon.net/micro/actiontec/actiontec.asp Verizon continues to distribute GPL'd works in binary form utterly ignoring the GPL. The case against Verizon http://www.softwarefreedom.org/news/2007/dec/07/busybox/verizon.pdf was dismissed WITH

Re: Copyright Misuse Doctrine in Apple v. Psystar

2009-02-13 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Alan Mackenzie wrote: [...] I was assuming you'd have already checked it, and would want to save others on the newsgroup, including me, from needless work. Have you checked it, Alex? Does the download offered on that page violate the GPL? Sure it does violate the GPL, Alan. Go to Verizon's

Re: Copyright Misuse Doctrine in Apple v. Psystar

2009-02-13 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Hyman Rosen wrote: [... Verizon webserver transmitting from an Actiontec site ...] And how that would make Verizon any less a distributor of that content just like the Actiontec itself? You keep confusing URL redirection with transmissions coming from Verizon's webserver. Stop being such an

Re: Copyright Misuse Doctrine in Apple v. Psystar

2009-02-13 Thread Alan Mackenzie
In gnu.misc.discuss Alexander Terekhov terek...@web.de wrote: Alan Mackenzie wrote: [...] I was assuming you'd have already checked it, and would want to save others on the newsgroup, including me, from needless work. Have you checked it, Alex? Does the download offered on that page

Re: Copyright Misuse Doctrine in Apple v. Psystar

2009-02-13 Thread Peter Köhlmann
Alan Mackenzie wrote: snip But then, you're familiar with the details. Is there any evidence in this case that this dismissal has allowed the defendant (Verizon) to continue infringing the GPL? Read on what res judicata means... Is there any evidence in this case that this

Re: Copyright Misuse Doctrine in Apple v. Psystar

2009-02-13 Thread Alan Mackenzie
'ten Tag, Peter! In gnu.misc.discuss Peter K?hlmann peter.koehlm...@arcor.de wrote: Alan Mackenzie wrote: snip But then, you're familiar with the details. Is there any evidence in this case that this dismissal has allowed the defendant (Verizon) to continue infringing the GPL? Read

Re: Copyright Misuse Doctrine in Apple v. Psystar

2009-02-13 Thread Hyman Rosen
Alexander Terekhov wrote: Hyman Rosen wrote: [... Verizon webserver transmitting from an Actiontec site ...] And how that would make Verizon any less a distributor of that content just like the Actiontec itself? Because things are murky when it comes to deciding who is responsible for making

Re: Copyright Misuse Doctrine in Apple v. Psystar

2009-02-13 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Alan Mackenzie wrote: [...] I was assuming you'd have already checked it, and would want to save others on the newsgroup, including me, from needless work. Have you checked it, Alex? Does the download offered on that page violate the GPL? Sure it does violate the GPL, Alan. Go to

Re: Copyright Misuse Doctrine in Apple v. Psystar

2009-02-13 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, Alex! In gnu.misc.discuss Alexander Terekhov terek...@web.de wrote: Alan Mackenzie wrote: [...] I was assuming you'd have already checked it, and would want to save others on the newsgroup, including me, from needless work. Have you checked it, Alex? Does the download offered on

Re: Copyright Misuse Doctrine in Apple v. Psystar

2009-02-13 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Alan Mackenzie wrote: [...] He knows just too well that Verizon is actually in compliance now, and for that reason can distribute the binaries. Yes, I've kind of gathered that. Verizon. Is. Not. In. Complience. Got it now, Alan? http://www2.verizon.net/micro/actiontec/actiontec.asp

Re: Copyright Misuse Doctrine in Apple v. Psystar

2009-02-13 Thread Alan Mackenzie
In gnu.misc.discuss Alexander Terekhov terek...@web.de wrote: Alan Mackenzie wrote: [...] He knows just too well that Verizon is actually in compliance now, and for that reason can distribute the binaries. Yes, I've kind of gathered that. Verizon. Is. Not. In. Complience. Got it now,

Re: Copyright Misuse Doctrine in Apple v. Psystar

2009-02-13 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Hyman Rosen wrote: Alexander Terekhov wrote: Hyman Rosen wrote: [... Verizon webserver transmitting from an Actiontec site ...] And how that would make Verizon any less a distributor of that content just like the Actiontec itself? Because things are murky when it comes to deciding

Re: Copyright Misuse Doctrine in Apple v. Psystar

2009-02-13 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Alan Mackenzie wrote: [...] Thanks, Alex! Take off your blinders, Alan. http://www2.verizon.net/micro/actiontec/actiontec.asp (from the complaint) -- 11. Upon information and belief, Verizon distributes to its customers the Actiontec MI424WR wireless router (“Infringing Product”), which

Re: Copyright Misuse Doctrine in Apple v. Psystar

2009-02-13 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, Alex! In gnu.misc.discuss Alexander Terekhov terek...@web.de wrote: Alan Mackenzie wrote: Take off your blinders, Alan. http://www2.verizon.net/micro/actiontec/actiontec.asp (from the complaint) -- 11. Upon information and belief, Verizon distributes to its customers the

Re: Copyright Misuse Doctrine in Apple v. Psystar

2009-02-13 Thread Hyman Rosen
Alexander Terekhov wrote: http://www2.verizon.net/micro/actiontec/actiontec.asp The actual URL for downloading is http://download.verizon.net/webdownload/firmware/upgrades/actiontec%20gateway/4.0.16.1.56.0.10.7-MI424WR.rmt containing the string actiontec gateway. Without discovery, it's not

Re: JMRI case -- Implementation of the Federal Circuit's Opinion

2009-02-13 Thread Alexander Terekhov
LOL Developments! Katzer filed an answer to the complaint (denying any wrong doing) and countersuing JMRI for copyright infringement regarding proprietary (no licensing involved at all) NMRA DCC Reference Manual for QSI Quantum HO Equipped Locomotives-Version 3.0. KAM registered its copyright

Re: Copyright Misuse Doctrine in Apple v. Psystar

2009-02-13 Thread ZnU
In article 4995aee4.ab5bf...@web.de, Alexander Terekhov terek...@web.de wrote: Hyman Rosen wrote: Alexander Terekhov wrote: Hyman Rosen wrote: [... Verizon webserver transmitting from an Actiontec site ...] And how that would make Verizon any less a distributor of that content

Re: Copyright Misuse Doctrine in Apple v. Psystar

2009-02-13 Thread Alexander Terekhov
ZnU wrote: In article 4995aee4.ab5bf...@web.de, Alexander Terekhov terek...@web.de wrote: Hyman Rosen wrote: Alexander Terekhov wrote: Hyman Rosen wrote: [... Verizon webserver transmitting from an Actiontec site ...] And how that would make Verizon any less a

Re: Copyright Misuse Doctrine in Apple v. Psystar

2009-02-13 Thread Alexander Terekhov
Hyman Rosen wrote: Alexander Terekhov wrote: http://www2.verizon.net/micro/actiontec/actiontec.asp The actual URL for downloading is http://download.verizon.net/webdownload/firmware/upgrades/actiontec%20gateway/4.0.16.1.56.0.10.7-MI424WR.rmt containing the string actiontec gateway.

Re: Copyright Misuse Doctrine in Apple v. Psystar

2009-02-13 Thread ZnU
In article 4995ce3f.2eacf...@web.de, Alexander Terekhov terek...@web.de wrote: ZnU wrote: In article 4995aee4.ab5bf...@web.de, Alexander Terekhov terek...@web.de wrote: Hyman Rosen wrote: Alexander Terekhov wrote: Hyman Rosen wrote: [... Verizon webserver

Re: NYC LOCAL: Friday through Sunday 6-8 February 2009 FLOSSify: Freeing up the Digital Foundations textbook

2009-02-13 Thread cycjec
In nyc.seminars secret...@lxny.org wrote: via=Fred Benenson of Free Culture We are FLOSSing Digital Foundations next weekend. We need help, and we want to do it *together.* We need people of all levels, from the GIMP guru, to the Ubuntu n00b to test it all. I was there, it was great,