Re: Why backquotes in GNU documentation?

2011-02-08 Thread John Hasler
Dave writes:
   GNU `make'

 Now, I was wondering what could be the reason behind this convention.
 Why not use just straight quotes also in front of the quoted word?

It's an attempt to emulate proper left and right single quotation marks
in ASCII.  I don't like it.
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Software downloads and first sale (and also copying under Art.5(1) 2009/24/EC aka 17 USC 117 in US) in Europe

2011-02-08 Thread Alexander Terekhov
http://www.usedsoft.com/en/images/pdf/presseinfo/usedSoft_PM_EUGH_Final_engl_110203.pdf

Press Release

Munich 03 February 2011

usedSoft welcomes clarification of the download issue by the ECJ
European Court of Justice now to decide whether downloaded software may
be traded as used/Trade of used software remains legal usedSoft has
expressly welcomed the ruling of the Federal Court of Justice (BGH) in
the Oracle case. “Asking the European Court of Justice to make a final
ruling is the logical and correct decision,” declared usedSoft managing
director Peter Schneider. “Ultimately, the resale of downloaded software
is based on European regulations which must also be clarified for all of
Europe.”

The Federal Court of Justice has submitted the Oracle case to the
European Court of Justice for a ruling. The ECJ will now decide,
presumably within one or two years, whether software which was
transmitted to the buyer online may also be traded as used. “This is
exactly what we want to achieve, namely, final clarity,” added
Schneider. “We regard this to be an important stepping stone victory on
the way to truly free trade on the software market.”

However, the future decision by the ECJ will have little impact on the
trade with used software because the legal circumstances regarding trade
with “used” software are largely clarified. As the BGH declared in its
press release today: “According to Art. 5 (1) of the directive
2009/24/EC, the reproduction of a computer program does not, in the
absence of specific contractual provisions, require the authorisation of
the rightholder ”

Sabine Leutheusser-Schnarrenberger, German Federal Minister of Justice,
also confirmed in September 2010 that trade with “used” software is
essentially legal. Legal uncertainty exists only with respect to
software which has been sold online. Courts in Munich and Hamburg have
handed down similar decisions in recent years. The RC Munich, for
example, ruled in April 2008 “that the sale or vending of single
Microsoft software licences previously granted within the framework of
volume licence agreements is fundamentally possible as an effective
transaction even without the consent of Microsoft.”

About usedSoft

usedSoft was set up in 2003, and it is a leading European supplier of
used software originating from all application fields. Buyers of
usedSoft licences are companies as well as software dealers. Customers
of usedSoft are, among others, companies such as Edeka, KarstadtQuelle,
Kaufland, Neckermann, Rewe, the Law Office Holme Roberts  Owen, as well
as a leading soccer club belonging to the German Soccer League and a
number of different Savings Banks. German authorities are more and more
using used software as well: Next to the Bavarian State Capital of
Munich, the German Federal Social Court in Kassel, the Municipal
Administration of Bad Salzuflen and the Data Central Office of
Baden-Württemberg, there were more than 100 additional local authorities
benefiting from usedSoft licences. The cost-saving benefit when
purchasing already used licences ranges between 20 and 50 percent of the
sales price.

www.usedsoft.com

For further inquiry, please contact:

Christoph Möller möller pr Telefon: +49 (0)221 80 10 87-87 Email:
c...@moeller-pr.de www.moeller-pr.de

http://juris.bundesgerichtshof.de/cgi-bin/rechtsprechung/document.py?Gericht=bghArt=pmDatum=2011Sort=3nr=54948pos=0anz=21

Bundesgerichtshof

Mitteilung der Pressestelle

Nr. 21/2011

Bundesgerichtshof legt EuGH Fragen zur Zulässigkeit des Vertriebs
gebrauchter Softwarelizenzen vor Der u. a. für das Urheberrecht
zuständige I. Zivilsenat des Bundesgerichtshofs hat dem Gerichtshof der
Europäischen Union heute Fragen zur urheberrechtlichen Zulässigkeit des
Vertriebs gebrauchter Softwarelizenzen zur Vorabentscheidung
vorgelegt.

Die Klägerin entwickelt Computersoftware, die sie ganz überwiegend in
der Weise vertreibt, dass die Kunden keinen Datenträger erhalten,
sondern die Software von der Internetseite der Klägerin auf ihren
Computer herunterladen. In den Lizenzverträgen der Klägerin ist
bestimmt, dass das Nutzungsrecht, das die Klägerin ihren Kunden an den
Computerprogrammen einräumt, nicht abtretbar ist.

Die Beklagte handelt mit gebrauchten Softwarelizenzen. Im Oktober 2005
bot sie bereits benutzte Lizenzen für Programme der Klägerin an. Dabei
verwies sie auf ein Notartestat, in dem auf eine Bestätigung des
ursprünglichen Lizenznehmers verwiesen wird, wonach er rechtmäßiger
Inhaber der Lizenzen gewesen sei, diese nicht mehr benutze und den
Kaufpreis vollständig bezahlt habe. Kunden der Beklagten laden nach dem
Erwerb einer gebrauchten Lizenz die entsprechende Software von der
Internetseite der Klägerin auf einen Datenträger herunter.

Die Klägerin ist der Auffassung, die Beklagte verletze dadurch, dass sie
die Erwerber gebrauchter Lizenzen dazu veranlasse, die entsprechenden
Computerprogramme zu vervielfältigen, das Urheberrecht an diesen
Programmen. Sie hat die Beklagte deshalb auf 

Why backquotes in GNU documentation?

2011-02-08 Thread Dave
[Not sure which newsgroup would be best, sorry for the spam.]

Hi,

I have often seen single backquotes in GNU software documentation. For
example, in http://www.gnu.org/software/libc/manual/html_mono/libc.html
one can read:

Using `htonl' is necessary so that

or:

followed by lower-case `a'

Error messages printed by GNU software also often contain single
backquotes. For example, in commands.c of GNU make 3.82:

error (NILF, _(*** [%s] Archive member `%s' may be bogus; not
deleted),
   on_behalf_of, file-name);

Source code comments also have single backquotes. For example, in
commands.c of GNU make 3.82:

  /* If the target is an archive member `lib(member)',
 then $@ is `lib' and $% is `member'.  */

And even in the title of http://www.gnu.org/software/make/manual/make.html:

GNU `make'

Now, I was wondering what could be the reason behind this convention.
Why not use just straight quotes also in front of the quoted word? For
example:

Using 'htonl' is necessary so that

or:

Using htonl is necessary so that

-- dave
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Re: Why backquotes in GNU documentation?

2011-02-08 Thread Richard Kettlewell
Dave dave_140...@hotmail.com writes:

 Now, I was wondering what could be the reason behind this convention.
 Why not use just straight quotes also in front of the quoted word? For
 example:

   Using 'htonl' is necessary so that

 or:

   Using htonl is necessary so that

Some fonts have the apostrophe represented by, approximately speaking,
the mirror image of the grave accent.  In that case `htonl' looks like
it has balanced quotes.

These days ‘single’ and “double” quotes are available in Unicode.

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Re: Why backquotes in GNU documentation?

2011-02-08 Thread Miles Bader
Richard Kettlewell r...@greenend.org.uk writes:
 Some fonts have the apostrophe represented by, approximately speaking,
 the mirror image of the grave accent.  In that case `htonl' looks like
 it has balanced quotes.

 These days ‘single’ and “double” quotes are available in Unicode.

Unicode quotes look better (on unicode-capable displays[*]), but also
make things much more annoying for any kind of programmatic handling of
the output.  The standard ` and ' are a reasonable compromise, I think.

[*] Well _usually_ look better... I've noticed cases where unicode
quotes are rendered so lightly that they end up being almost invisible...

-Miles

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Re: Why backquotes in GNU documentation?

2011-02-08 Thread Miles Bader
Barry Margolin bar...@alum.mit.edu writes:
  Now, I was wondering what could be the reason behind this convention.
  Why not use just straight quotes also in front of the quoted word?
 
 It's an attempt to emulate proper left and right single quotation marks
 in ASCII.  I don't like it.

 Neither do I.  The problem is that in most computer fonts, ` and ' are 
 not mirror images of each other.  ` is angled, but ' is usually vertical.

I know, lots of tech folk love to obsess over minutia, but given the
problems created by using unicode quotes, and the usefulness of balanced
delimiters (even if they're sometimes a little ugly), I find it amazing
that people go to such great lengths to try (emphasis here...)  and
fix this.

-Miles

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Suppose we've chosen the wrong god. Every time we go to church we're
just making him madder and madder. -- Homer Simpson
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Re: Why backquotes in GNU documentation?

2011-02-08 Thread Barry Margolin
In article 87oc6mprwj@thumper.dhh.gt.org,
 John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com wrote:

 Dave writes:
  GNU `make'
 
  Now, I was wondering what could be the reason behind this convention.
  Why not use just straight quotes also in front of the quoted word?
 
 It's an attempt to emulate proper left and right single quotation marks
 in ASCII.  I don't like it.

Neither do I.  The problem is that in most computer fonts, ` and ' are 
not mirror images of each other.  ` is angled, but ' is usually vertical.

-- 
Barry Margolin, bar...@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
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