Re: List posting rules

2019-11-02 Thread Marcel
.those who impose censorship must consider what they censor to be true, as individuals believing themselves to be correct would welcome the opportunity to disprove those with opposing views." > I have indicated to Marcel that if he wishes to repost messages for > review that the moderators (4

Re: Why GNU/Linux is not accepted: an observation

2019-11-10 Thread Marcel
> There is certain trade between good and bad, little bad for more good > is always a good trade. If by "a little bad" you mean diluting the Free Software philosophy and by "more good" you mean more people using it, I totally disagree. Following that logic, it seems to me GNU would quickly

Re: A GNU “social contract”?

2019-11-11 Thread Marcel
On 11/11/19 4:20 PM, Mark Wielaard wrote: But if you mean me personally, > then no, I don't want to shame rms by trying to formulate what I think > we (as in we GNU hackers together) believe is the mission of the GNU > project. In fact I hope he will agree that it correctly describes what > we

Re: list moderation

2019-11-06 Thread Marcel
On 11/6/19 5:51 PM, Andy Wingo wrote: >> Can you explain how “moderation was being used in a biased manner”, >> giving specific examples? > > I am also interested in answers to this question. You can look at the arbitrary and unexplained censorship of my messages as an example of how it was

Re: Why "GNU/Linux" is not accepted: an observation

2019-11-07 Thread Marcel
d them and discuss or counter them intelligently. This seems like the most likely win-win strategy if we manage to respect their ideas. I think one of the main roadblocks to this is when we believe others to have hidden agendas and ulterior motives (whether perceived or real). We all interact with reality through an ideology, and ideology is most powerful when we think we are free from it. From my perspective, it is always most recommendable to try to understand our own ideology--the values, beliefs, biases and prejudices that structure our perception of reality--than to try to force others to adopt ours. Marcel

Re: list moderation

2019-11-05 Thread Marcel
On 11/5/19 10:34 PM, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > Sure, we’ll talk about governance (no quotes) as much as possible, > meaning as much as the signal-to-noise ratio doesn’t prevent that. > Governance is very much on-topic for this list. One person's noise is another person's signal. Also, as Heinlein

Support for RMS and criticism of the "bottom-up"/"social contract" power grab attempt.

2019-10-30 Thread Marcel
supporters. I would like to reiterate my support for the way that RMS leads GNU, and I would like to publicly thank him for his extraordinary continued dedication to his life long project, without which our world would be a darker place today: Hip, hip, hooray! Hip, hip, hooray! Hip, hip, hooray! Saludos libres, Marcel Ventosa

Re: A GNU “social contract”?

2019-11-01 Thread Marcel
On 11/1/19 7:04 PM, Andreas Enge wrote: > On Fri, Nov 01, 2019 at 07:00:42PM +0700, Marcel wrote: >>> It is definitely not adocument which could found a community. >> What community are you trying to found? > > Sorry, I think my formulation was not good. I did

Re: A GNU “social contract”?

2019-11-01 Thread Marcel
Hello > It is definitely not adocument which could found a community. > What community are you trying to found? > Andreas > > Marcel

Re: Why "GNU/Linux" is not accepted: an observation

2019-11-08 Thread Marcel
On 11/8/19 3:01 PM, Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss) wrote: > A typical GNU/Linux distribution include more than just GNU userland > on top of Linux. It can be argued that the name GNU/Linux is incomplete > and excludes contributions from other sources, the same way that > Linux alone excludes

Re: Some thoughts on censorship in this mailing list.

2019-11-01 Thread Marcel
On 11/1/19 9:34 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Marcel: > >> The worst aspect about this whole episode--from my perspective in >> isolation--is that nobody can tell that I am trying to respond >> thoughtfully and intelligently to their posts; the censors do not even &

Re: A GNU “social contract”?

2019-11-01 Thread Marcel
On 11/1/19 8:05 PM, Andreas Enge wrote: > On Fri, Nov 01, 2019 at 07:09:10PM +0700, Marcel wrote: >> Do you know why none of my posts (including this one) seem to make it to >> the mailing list? I cannot understand it and find it very annoying to be >> personally targeted t

Some thoughts on censorship in this mailing list.

2019-11-01 Thread Marcel
The fact that so many of my posts have been censored alter the dynamics of my interaction with this list, making me seem as though my posts make no sense. I am not a bad writer and have put as much thought as I could into drafting the longer posts. It is very disheartening to be silenced this

Re: Support for RMS and criticism of the "bottom-up"/"social contract" power grab attempt.

2019-10-31 Thread Marcel
On 10/31/19 6:34 PM, Dmitry Alexandrov wrote: > Marcel wrote: >> On 10/31/19 4:11 PM, Dmitry Alexandrov wrote: >>>> On 10/31/19 3:01 PM, Dmitry Alexandrov wrote: >>>>> Marcel wrote: >>>>>> What I do see are volunteers trying to oppor

Re: ru...@mrbrklyn.com: Please remove me from your hang...@nylxs.com or vill...@mrbrklyn.com mailing lists

2020-02-24 Thread Marcel
On 2/24/20 12:28 PM, J.B. Nicholson wrote: Taylan Kammer wrote: I've had the same problem.  No idea what he's trying to achieve... What I see is indistinguishable from spam but with more annoying intention (I get into this in detail below) amounting to harassment. I'm surprised that this

Re: A summary of some open discussions

2020-01-26 Thread Marcel
On 1/25/20 9:43 PM, facebook wrote: > On 1/25/20 7:07 AM, Marcel wrote: >> GNU is an organization with a chief GNUisence at the helm, RMS. It >> didn't have to be that way, but it is that way. > > > > Yeah it did "have to be like that".  It would not have

Re: Cause for bans

2020-02-02 Thread Marcel
philosophy than one compelled into harmony by "Contracts" and "Enforcers". Saludos Libres, Marcel

Re: A summary of some open discussions

2020-01-25 Thread Marcel
hat for some of you it seems to be a prerequisite for all others to think alike. GNU is an organization with a chief GNUisence at the helm, RMS. It didn't have to be that way, but it is that way. It doesn't always have to be that way, but it is not up to the volunteers to forcefully make it another

Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Richard Stallman should be reinstated to President of the FSF

2020-02-17 Thread Marcel
The list has flooded me with hundreds of repeated messages. I have received two unsubscribe messages, but I am still not unsubscribed. Completely unwelcome and massive spamming (several hundred emails over less than a week, most or all of them repeats from gnu-misc-discuss. Complete agreement

Block Ruben Safir - Re: [Hangout - NYLXS]

2020-02-19 Thread Marcel
Thank you Orbulon. I have blocked all of the related domains. I have been very busy while traveling and this incessant spam has been a real nuisance. That I have been forced to block the domain names to stop the spam speaks volumes about the quality of character of this abusive individual.

Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] security alert... worth noting

2020-02-14 Thread Marcel
intrusion into my privacy. Thank you. Marcel On February 14, 2020 9:24:55 AM GMT+07:00, Ruben Safir wrote: >https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2020/02/500-chrome-extensions-secretly-uploaded-private-data-from-millions-of-users/