Re: Python question

2014-04-10 Thread Barry Margolin
to follow Snowden's example. ]]] How, in Python, can I execute a string as a shell command? Use os.system() https://docs.python.org/2/library/os.html#process-management -- Barry Margolin, bar...@alum.mit.edu Arlington, MA *** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me

Re: Why backquotes in GNU documentation?

2011-02-10 Thread Barry Margolin
In article buovd0tbukn@dhlpc061.dev.necel.com, Miles Bader mi...@gnu.org wrote: Barry Margolin bar...@alum.mit.edu writes: Now, I was wondering what could be the reason behind this convention. Why not use just straight quotes also in front of the quoted word? It's an attempt

Re: Why backquotes in GNU documentation?

2011-02-08 Thread Barry Margolin
left and right single quotation marks in ASCII. I don't like it. Neither do I. The problem is that in most computer fonts, ` and ' are not mirror images of each other. ` is angled, but ' is usually vertical. -- Barry Margolin, bar...@alum.mit.edu Arlington, MA *** PLEASE post questions

Re: sort file without sort first line or first two lines ?

2011-01-21 Thread Barry Margolin
NUM JANA 1 FEBB 1 APRC MARD 1 { head -1 file; tail -2 file | sort +k 2; } sortedfile -- Barry Margolin, bar...@alum.mit.edu Arlington, MA *** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me *** *** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them

Re: why aren't gnu utils normalized?

2009-09-02 Thread Barry Margolin
with other programs when appropriate, but if there are multiple precedents then different programmers may choose to follow different ones. -- Barry Margolin, bar...@alum.mit.edu Arlington, MA *** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me *** *** PLEASE don't copy me on replies

Re: why aren't gnu utils normalized?

2009-08-31 Thread Barry Margolin
in combination with GNU tar's ability to write to remote servers via rsh/ssh -- this is complicated to do using CLI pipes). I guess there haven't been enough users running into this issue with join that anyone felt the need to give it all of sort's capabilities. -- Barry Margolin, bar

Re: reinvent (for GPL) code u wrote for employer who owns it?

2009-03-27 Thread Barry Margolin
In article 49cc334b.f8155...@web.de, Alexander Terekhov terek...@web.de wrote: Barry Margolin wrote: [...] But the program to be copied is NOT open source. He wants to reimplement it as open source, but he has to be sure that the new version doesn't contain any vestiges of the original

Re: reinvent (for GPL) code u wrote for employer who owns it?

2009-03-26 Thread Barry Margolin
In article mdkdnt1thobizvbunz2dnuvz_shin...@giganews.com, Rjack u...@example.net wrote: Barry Margolin wrote: In article 49c8c151.5c3d7...@web.de, Alexander Terekhov terek...@web.de wrote: Rjack wrote: Barry Margolin wrote: In article 731831868.575...@irys.nyx.net, anonb...@nyx3

Re: reinvent (for GPL) code u wrote for employer who owns it?

2009-03-25 Thread Barry Margolin
In article 49c8c151.5c3d7...@web.de, Alexander Terekhov terek...@web.de wrote: Rjack wrote: Barry Margolin wrote: In article 731831868.575...@irys.nyx.net, anonb...@nyx3.nyx.net (Name withheld by request) wrote: How might one ethically/legally re-write a suite of scripts one

Re: reinvent (for GPL) code u wrote for employer who owns it?

2009-03-23 Thread Barry Margolin
of your previous code, which you don't have rights to (the copyright belongs to the ex-employer). -- Barry Margolin, bar...@alum.mit.edu Arlington, MA *** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me *** *** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group

Re: RMS - Cloud Computing is a trap/stupid

2008-09-30 Thread Barry Margolin
tech-savvy, so what's best for him may not be best for randoms. -- Barry Margolin, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Arlington, MA *** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me *** *** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group *** ___ gnu

Re: GPL 2(b) HUH?

2008-09-22 Thread Barry Margolin
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Hyman Rosen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Barry Margolin wrote: That's precisely the case I thought we were discussing. Did I misunderstand? I believe that there are people who argue that even the standalone scheduler code must be licensed under the GPL

Re: GPL 2(b) HUH?

2008-09-19 Thread Barry Margolin
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Hyman Rosen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Barry Margolin wrote: It's not the scheduler that's a derivative, it's the new Linux kernel that results from replacing the scheduler in the old kernel. I.e. Linux - schedulerA + schedulerB = derivative of Linux

Re: GPL 2(b) HUH?

2008-09-18 Thread Barry Margolin
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Rjack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Barry Margolin wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Hyman Rosen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ciaran O'Riordan wrote: But if you looked at Linux, decided the scheduler was crap, and then wrote a completely new scheduler

Re: GPL 2(b) HUH?

2008-09-18 Thread Barry Margolin
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Hyman Rosen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Barry Margolin wrote: A new version of Linux with a different scheduler serves the same purpose: they're both operating system kernels. But the new scheduler is not a transformed version of any other code. Both

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: GPL version 4]

2008-07-16 Thread Barry Margolin
software, you can use the LGPL instead of the GPL. It requires that the free library be propagated freely, while allowing the software that links to it to be proprietary. -- Barry Margolin, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Arlington, MA *** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me *** *** PLEASE don't

Re: Copyright Misuse

2008-07-16 Thread Barry Margolin
ago to allow its mainframe OS to run on competitors' hardware?). But Apple's market share is hardly large enough for this to apply. -- Barry Margolin, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Arlington, MA *** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me *** *** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read

Re: GNU, the UNIX trademark, and legal control over language

2008-01-26 Thread Barry Margolin
conversational language. Feel free to use words like Unix, Xerox, and Band-Aid when talking casually. But if you use them in ads, documentation, marketing collateral, etc. you must have the legal authorization. -- Barry Margolin, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Arlington, MA *** PLEASE post questions

Re: Getting rid of software patents = All software becomes free?

2007-12-11 Thread Barry Margolin
-licensing agreements with each other, so that they both come out ahead. -- Barry Margolin, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Arlington, MA *** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me *** *** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group

Re: Getting rid of software patents = All software becomes free?

2007-12-09 Thread Barry Margolin
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], mike3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So if there were no software patents, there'd be no more to sue over, Software companies were protecting their wares with copyright long before the PTO started allowing software patents. -- Barry Margolin, [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: GPL client locked into closed source backend - is this really GPL?

2007-11-12 Thread Barry Margolin
clients and servers is considered loose enough that they're not the same application. For example, if there were a closed-source web server, do you think GPL web browsers should not be able to access it? Should open-source SQL clients not be able to access Oracle servers? -- Barry Margolin

Re: which email services uses Libre Software

2007-09-26 Thread Barry Margolin
, not your computer, it doesn't seem likely that they'll allow users to update it. Isn't that the point of using free software -- you have the freedom to fix or customize it. -- Barry Margolin, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Arlington, MA *** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me *** *** PLEASE

Re: gpl question

2007-08-27 Thread Barry Margolin
) and allow the purchasers to redistribute it. -- Barry Margolin, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Arlington, MA *** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me *** *** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group *** ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing

Re: Are Microsoft¹s patent lawyers really thi s dumb?

2007-07-09 Thread Barry Margolin
transferring ownership of his works in company time to the employer. Or if it's a work for hire, i.e. writing the software is part of your job, in which case the employer is normally the owner. -- Barry Margolin, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Arlington, MA *** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly

Re: The GNU Philosophy: How practical is it?

2007-04-28 Thread Barry Margolin
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Alexander Terekhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Barry Margolin wrote: [...] Isn't that pattern pretty normal for high-tech startups? Ask those poor folks who lost the money in Linux and .com IPO scam. Lots of startups fail. In fact, probably MOST do. Some

Re: Using a script licensed under GPL in an application licensed under a license that's not compatible with GPL

2006-12-13 Thread Barry Margolin
together with GPL programs. -- Barry Margolin, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Arlington, MA *** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me *** *** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group *** ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list gnu-misc

Re: gpl as applied to ideas

2006-12-07 Thread Barry Margolin
clean room procedures have been developed -- to document clearly that the authors of the new code did so without any chance of direct copying. -- Barry Margolin, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Arlington, MA *** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me *** *** PLEASE don't copy me on replies

Re: gpl as applied to ideas

2006-12-06 Thread Barry Margolin
. We wish to avoid the danger that redistributors of a free program will individually obtain patent licenses, in effect making the program proprietary. To prevent this, we have made it clear that any patent must be licensed for everyone's free use or not licensed at all. -- Barry Margolin, [EMAIL

Re: Open source - Free software

2006-09-28 Thread Barry Margolin
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Roger Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Barry Margolin wrote: Free Software is open source. Free software, like free milk, is something you aren't charged for. It's a shame they chose such an ambiguous word. While it may be a shame, they've been

Re: Open source - Free software

2006-09-28 Thread Barry Margolin
contextual knowledge tells us that it's probably intended as a noun. And in the GNU and Linux newsgroups, the context establishes that free software refers to freedom, not price. -- Barry Margolin, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Arlington, MA *** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me

Re: Open source - Free software

2006-09-28 Thread Barry Margolin
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Al Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 23:18:02 -0400, Barry Margolin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While it may be a shame, they've been using the phrase for about 20 years now. It's become part of the industry lexicon. Similarly, we have

Re: Open source - Free software

2006-09-28 Thread Barry Margolin
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jay Belanger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Barry Margolin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Alfred M. Szmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Free Software is not Open Source, since Open Source also means non-free software. By that logic

Re: Open source - Free software

2006-09-28 Thread Barry Margolin
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], AlanS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Barry Margolin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about this: Free software is a subset of open source software, so all free software is open source. No, not all open source is free. I never said it was, I said the exact opposite

Re: Open source - Free software

2006-09-28 Thread Barry Margolin
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Alexander Terekhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Barry Margolin wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Alexander Terekhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Barry Margolin wrote: [...] And in the GNU and Linux newsgroups, the context establishes that free

Re: Open source - Free software

2006-09-28 Thread Barry Margolin
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: begin In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 09/27/2006 at 02:27 PM, Barry Margolin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Whether they should be able to is of purely academic interest. The fact is that they *did* do

Re: Open source - Free software

2006-09-28 Thread Barry Margolin
free or not)? -- Barry Margolin, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Arlington, MA *** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me *** *** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group *** ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list gnu-misc-discuss

Re: Open source - Free software

2006-09-27 Thread Barry Margolin
free software you're required to make source code available, so obviously it's open source. -- Barry Margolin, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Arlington, MA *** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me *** *** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group

Re: Open source - Free software

2006-09-27 Thread Barry Margolin
, and ignoring it will simply lead to confusion in discussions like this. -- Barry Margolin, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Arlington, MA *** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me *** *** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group

Re: Open source - Free software

2006-09-27 Thread Barry Margolin
. There are open source licenses that don't meet the requirements of the FSF's definition of free software. But since free software has to make source code available, free software is of necessity open source. -- Barry Margolin, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Arlington, MA *** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups

Re: Open source - Free software

2006-09-27 Thread Barry Margolin
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Robert Hull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 27 September 2006 05:50, Barry Margolin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in comp.os.linux.misc: How about this: Free software is a subset of open source software, so all free software is open source. Untrue - see

Re: Open source - Free software

2006-09-27 Thread Barry Margolin
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Unruh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Barry Margolin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Roger Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim Richardson wrote: freeware and Free Software are not the same thing. Free Software refers to (mostly

Re: Open source - Free software

2006-09-26 Thread Barry Margolin
I hope to get all the replies this way. No fun intended. :) I don't understand what you're expecting. How about this: Free software is a subset of open source software, so all free software is open source. -- Barry Margolin, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Arlington, MA *** PLEASE post questions

Re: GPL Anti-DRM Clause

2006-02-10 Thread Barry Margolin
publishers may find it more advantageous to implement copy prevention, others may charge a bit more but allow copying. -- Barry Margolin, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Arlington, MA *** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me *** *** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group

Re: GPL 3 and patents question

2006-02-04 Thread Barry Margolin
saying that this section of the GPL, which says he needs to do so, is meaningless? Or are we just misinterpreting it? -- Barry Margolin, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Arlington, MA *** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me *** *** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group

Re: GPL and other licences

2006-02-01 Thread Barry Margolin
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Alexander Terekhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Barry Margolin wrote: [...] But that's not really a good analogy. Combining two programs is not just making references, you actually merge parts of one program into a copy of the other. What do you mean

Re: GPL and other licences

2006-01-31 Thread Barry Margolin
that the original works can be recognized as distinct components of the result. A conference proceedings book is a compilation. But when the originals are comingled as I describe above, the result is a derivative work, not a compilation. -- Barry Margolin, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Arlington, MA *** PLEASE post

Re: GPL 3 and patents question

2006-01-31 Thread Barry Margolin
this License may add an explicit geographical distribution limitation excluding those countries, so that distribution is permitted only in or among countries not thus excluded. -- Barry Margolin, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Arlington, MA *** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me

Re: SPAM filter on Mail-to-News-Gateway?

2005-10-12 Thread Barry Margolin
somewhere else. I don't see most of it in this group for some reason, but it's *really* bad in gnu.emacs.bugs. I finally gave up and unsubscribed tonight. -- Barry Margolin, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Arlington, MA *** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me