Re: Richard Stallman should be reinstated to President of the FSF

2022-03-17 Thread dick
f> If Free Software is not anti-capitalist, it is not capitalist f> either. This thousand-word rambling checks all the boxes for semanticist niggling: . Verbose . Sententious . Vacillatory . Unactionable Avoid moralizing from 10,000 feet. Go after something specific that you don't like, e.g.,

Re: Richard Stallman should be reinstated to President of the FSF

2022-03-17 Thread faiflabs
* Jean Louis [Mon, 21 Feb 2022 13:47:30 +0300]: > And free software is accepted and demanded in society today. This may be because it offers benefits to corporations. Although the position of Free software is not partisan or anti-capitalist itself, I believe the situation is comparable to the

Re: Richard Stallman should be reinstated to President of the FSF

2022-02-21 Thread inasprecali
dick writes: > Pretty simple actually. A wise man, quite recently, clarified that "the > goal is ending the existence of proprietary software," and that "there > si still a long way to go." So this would seem a necessary and > internally consistent first step, not to mention labor-saving! I’m

Re: Richard Stallman should be reinstated to President of the FSF

2022-02-21 Thread dick
> I think you should further elaborate how you came to the > conclusion of [discontinuing support for macOS and Windows]. Pretty simple actually. A wise man, quite recently, clarified that "the goal is ending the existence of proprietary software," and that "there si still a long way to go." So

Re: Richard Stallman should be reinstated to President of the FSF

2022-02-21 Thread inasprecali
dick writes: > i> Last time I checked, the vast majority of personal computing devices > i> are still running a fully proprietary operating system > > I investigated this claim, and *mein gott*, you're right. There appear > to be at least two such systems macOS and Windows. The first thing we

Re: Richard Stallman should be reinstated to President of the FSF

2022-02-21 Thread dick
i> Last time I checked, the vast majority of personal computing devices i> are still running a fully proprietary operating system I investigated this claim, and *mein gott*, you're right. There appear to be at least two such systems macOS and Windows. The first thing we ought to do is

Re: Richard Stallman should be reinstated to President of the FSF

2022-02-21 Thread Jean Louis
* inasprecali [2022-02-21 13:18]: > dick writes: > > > Now that the war's been won > > Has it? Last time I checked, the vast majority of personal > computing devices are still running a fully proprietary operating > system, together with mostly proprietary applications. That is my

Re: Richard Stallman should be reinstated to President of the FSF

2022-02-21 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt
It is best not to feed the troll, it already has been banned from some GNU lists as it is since it cannot behave.

Re: Richard Stallman should be reinstated to President of the FSF

2022-02-21 Thread Jean Louis
* faifl...@danwin1210.de [2022-02-20 15:09]: > As much as I would like an organisation headed by rms, the closest you're > going to get is to be more like him-- not through parroting everything he > says, but by learning what you can and applying it with your own logic and > thinking. That is

Re: Richard Stallman should be reinstated to President of the FSF

2022-02-21 Thread inasprecali
dick writes: > Now that the war's been won Has it? Last time I checked, the vast majority of personal computing devices are still running a fully proprietary operating system, together with mostly proprietary applications. > and open source [1] is now the default configuration You grossly

Re: Richard Stallman should be reinstated to President of the FSF

2022-02-20 Thread dick
> Free software without rms is like the theory of relativity without > Einstein. Your rambling is void of coherence and insight. There was a time when the FSF, and its choice of chief executive, was relevant. That time roughly overlapped with Microsoft's heyday in the 1990s. Now that the war's

Re: Richard Stallman should be reinstated to President of the FSF

2022-02-20 Thread andrew
On 22/02/01 05:41PM, GNU Hacker wrote: > Ruben Safir writes: > > > Richard Stallman was bullied from his position at MIT and FSF and the > > FSF should take the couragous move of reinstating Richard as President > > of the FSF > > RMS for president! I also believe so. RMS was bullied because

Re: Richard Stallman should be reinstated to President of the FSF

2022-02-20 Thread faiflabs
As much as I would like an organisation headed by rms, the closest you're going to get is to be more like him-- not through parroting everything he says, but by learning what you can and applying it with your own logic and thinking. Parroting has already been done and the cost is that it falls

Re: Richard Stallman should be reinstated to President of the FSF

2022-02-13 Thread GNU Hacker
Ruben Safir writes: > Richard Stallman was bullied from his position at MIT and FSF and the > FSF should take the couragous move of reinstating Richard as President > of the FSF RMS for president! -- GNU Hacker. Emacs Lover. Free/Libre Software supporter. FSF Member. stallmansupport.org -

Re: Richard Stallman should be reinstated to President of the FSF

2020-02-22 Thread Alexandre François Garreau
rms cannot be simply reinstated into FSF because he left himself willingly. For him to go back inside FSF would require initiative from him, added to efforts of both parts.

Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Richard Stallman should be reinstated to President of the FSF

2020-02-22 Thread 徐继哲 - Xu Jizhe
在 2020年02月23日 08:08, Ruben Safir 写道: On 2/22/20 7:51 AM, Alexandre François Garreau wrote: rms cannot be simply reinstated into FSF because he left himself willingly. For him to go back inside FSF would require initiative from him, added to efforts of both parts.

Re: Richard Stallman should be reinstated to President of the FSF

2020-02-22 Thread 徐继哲 - Xu Jizhe
在 2020年02月22日 23:55, Alexandre François Garreau 写道: Le samedi 22 février 2020, 16:54:05 CET 徐继哲 - Xu Jizhe a écrit : 在 2020年02月22日 20:51, Alexandre François Garreau 写道: rms cannot be simply reinstated into FSF because he left himself willingly. I don't think so. Officially, it was so. He

Re: Richard Stallman should be reinstated to President of the FSF

2020-02-22 Thread 徐继哲 - Xu Jizhe
在 2020年02月22日 20:51, Alexandre François Garreau 写道: rms cannot be simply reinstated into FSF because he left himself willingly. I don't think so. For him to go back inside FSF would require initiative from him, added to efforts of both parts. RMS is the best people to lead the free software

Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Richard Stallman should be reinstated to President of the FSF

2020-02-22 Thread nipponmail
FSF seems defunct. When was the last time we had a glorious Peoples Action, such as the Cisco lawsuit? Forever ago. It's not doing what it's supposed to do: which is protect the copyrights it holds (whole reason it induces their hand over to begin with) On 2020-02-22 12:51, Alexandre François

Re: Richard Stallman should be reinstated to President of the FSF

2020-02-22 Thread Alexandre François Garreau
Le samedi 22 février 2020, 17:01:32 CET 徐继哲 - Xu Jizhe a écrit : > 在 2020年02月22日 23:55, Alexandre François Garreau 写道: > > Le samedi 22 février 2020, 16:54:05 CET 徐继哲 - Xu Jizhe a écrit : > >> 在 2020年02月22日 20:51, Alexandre François Garreau 写道: > >>> rms cannot be simply reinstated into FSF

Re: Richard Stallman should be reinstated to President of the FSF

2020-02-22 Thread Alexandre François Garreau
Le samedi 22 février 2020, 16:54:05 CET 徐继哲 - Xu Jizhe a écrit : > 在 2020年02月22日 20:51, Alexandre François Garreau 写道: > > rms cannot be simply reinstated into FSF because he left himself > > willingly. > > I don't think so. Officially, it was so. He never denied so. That would then require

Re: Richard Stallman should be reinstated to President of the FSF

2020-02-21 Thread 徐继哲 - Xu Jizhe
I support this idea! 在 2020年02月17日 03:42, Ruben Safir 写道: Richard Stallman was bullied from his position at MIT and FSF and the FSF should take the couragous move of reinstating Richard as President of the FSF Nobody but Stallman can do what he does, as a spokeman, and strategic planner to

Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Richard Stallman should be reinstated to President of the FSF

2020-02-19 Thread orbulon--- via General GNU project and free software discussions
Since the NYLXS mailing list doesn’t seem to respect unsubscribe requests, the only fix I’ve found to this appears to be blocking  hang...@nylxs.com Feb 17, 2020, 05:13 by m...@runbox.com: > The list has flooded me with hundreds of repeated messages. I have received > two unsubscribe messages,

Re: Richard Stallman should be reinstated to President of the FSF

2020-02-19 Thread Jean Louis
* J.B. Nicholson [2020-02-17 08:39]: > Ruben Safir wrote: > > Nobody but Stallman can do what he does, as a spokeman, and strategic > > planner to protect end users from the abuses of non-free software. > > If that's true then everything RMS headed up is in deep trouble. That is generalization,

Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Richard Stallman should be reinstated to President of the FSF

2020-02-17 Thread Marcel
The list has flooded me with hundreds of repeated messages. I have received two unsubscribe messages, but I am still not unsubscribed. Completely unwelcome and massive spamming (several hundred emails over less than a week, most or all of them repeats from gnu-misc-discuss. Complete agreement

Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Richard Stallman should be reinstated to President of the FSF

2020-02-17 Thread nipponmail
Why don't you like being subscribed to his list? I'm subscribed too, automatically, but I'm GLAD for it. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth. What, this list isn't GOOD enough? On 2020-02-17 04:40, J.B. Nicholson wrote: Ruben Safir wrote: Nobody but Stallman can do what he does, as a spokeman,

Re: Richard Stallman should be reinstated to President of the FSF

2020-02-16 Thread J.B. Nicholson
Ruben Safir wrote: Nobody but Stallman can do what he does, as a spokeman, and strategic planner to protect end users from the abuses of non-free software. If that's true then everything RMS headed up is in deep trouble. At some point everyone needs to be replaced if only because nobody lives

Re: Richard Stallman should be reinstated to President of the FSF

2020-02-16 Thread Jean Louis
* Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss) <936-846-2...@kylheku.com> [2020-02-16 23:17]: > On 2020-02-16 11:42, Ruben Safir wrote: > > Richard Stallman was bullied from his position at MIT and FSF and the > > FSF should take the couragous move of reinstating Richard as President > > of the FSF > > The FSF

Re: Richard Stallman should be reinstated to President of the FSF

2020-02-16 Thread Christophe Poncy
On 2/16/20 02:42 PM, Ruben Safir wrote: > Richard Stallman was bullied from his position at MIT and FSF and the > FSF should take the couragous move of reinstating Richard as President > of the FSF > +1 > Nobody but Stallman can do what he does, as a spokeman, and strategic > planner to

Re: Richard Stallman should be reinstated to President of the FSF

2020-02-16 Thread Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss)
On 2020-02-16 11:42, Ruben Safir wrote: Richard Stallman was bullied from his position at MIT and FSF and the FSF should take the couragous move of reinstating Richard as President of the FSF The FSF minus Stallman is a rotten organization; simply adding Stallman back is not enough. It could

Richard Stallman should be reinstated to President of the FSF

2020-02-16 Thread Ruben Safir
Richard Stallman was bullied from his position at MIT and FSF and the FSF should take the couragous move of reinstating Richard as President of the FSF Nobody but Stallman can do what he does, as a spokeman, and strategic planner to protect end users from the abuses of non-free software. The