Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Shannon Dosemagen and the FSF

2020-03-08 Thread aviva
On 3/1/20 3:44 AM, Andreas R. wrote: > According to the FSF's vice-president and acting president the board is > being stonewalled from within[1] and prevented from keeping the FSF on course. > > [1]http://www.fsfla.org/ikiwiki/blogs/lxo/2020-02-25-incommunicado.en.html Does that affect the

Re: Shannon Dosemagen and the FSF

2020-03-08 Thread aviva
On 3/2/20 2:06 PM, Leo Famulari wrote: > Issues like privacy online, software patents, DRM, open document formats, etc > are also orthogonal to the 4 software freedoms One can only conclude that your not familiar wigh Free Software becuase these issues directly articulate positions that

Re: Shannon Dosemagen and the FSF

2020-03-04 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt
Etc is indeed orthogonal to the software freedoms, but the FSF does not focus on it. There is a slight confusion here and it is the line between the FSF and the GNU project -- the GNU project (nee RMS) started the FSF to support it -- so by extention it has always focused on the same issues

Re: Shannon Dosemagen and the FSF

2020-03-04 Thread Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss)
On 2020-03-02 11:01, Leo Famulari wrote: I am familiar with the Public Lab (2 words) and I think their work will be quite interesting to free software hackers. I don't have a shred of interest in it; I must not be a free software hacker. collaborations, not just over email. It makes sense to

Re: Shannon Dosemagen and the FSF

2020-03-04 Thread Ineiev
On Mon, Mar 02, 2020 at 02:06:25PM -0500, Leo Famulari wrote: > John Darrington wrote: > > > Over the last few years many people have noticed a shift towards > > extremist support of idealogy which is orthogonal to the Free > > Software cause. > > Issues like privacy online, software patents, DRM,

Re: Shannon Dosemagen and the FSF

2020-03-04 Thread Greg Farough
On Mon, Mar 02 2020, "Leo Famulari" wrote: > I am familiar with the Public Lab (2 words) and I think their work > will be quite interesting to free software hackers. They design and > sell open-source tools for things like environmental testing, which > is typically the realm of government and

Re: Shannon Dosemagen and the FSF

2020-03-03 Thread Alexandre François Garreau
Le lundi 2 mars 2020, 20:06:25 CET Leo Famulari a écrit : > John Darrington wrote: > > Over the last few years many people have noticed a shift towards > > extremist support of idealogy which is orthogonal to the Free > > Software cause. > Issues like privacy online, software patents, DRM, open

Shannon Dosemagen and the FSF

2020-03-03 Thread Leo Famulari
I am familiar with the Public Lab (2 words) and I think their work will be quite interesting to free software hackers. They design and sell open-source tools for things like environmental testing, which is typically the realm of government and big business. It's not a direct correlation to

Re: Shannon Dosemagen and the FSF

2020-03-03 Thread Leo Famulari
John Darrington wrote: > Over the last few years many people have noticed a shift towards extremist > support of idealogy which is orthogonal to the Free Software cause. Issues like privacy online, software patents, DRM, open document formats, etc are also orthogonal to the 4 software freedoms

Re: Shannon Dosemagen and the FSF

2020-03-01 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 01/03/2020 01:56, aviva wrote: > It is a radical organization that ostracizes anyone who doesn't believe > in it's principles, and has a chilling effect on public discourse.    Please don't emphasize that point Some free software organizations try to ostracize volunteers who simply aren't

Re: Shannon Dosemagen and the FSF

2020-03-01 Thread Dmitry Gutov
I care little about the topic in question (hyperbole about CoC isn't going to take us far), but... On 01.03.2020 10:44, Andreas R. wrote: According to the FSF's vice-president and acting president the board is being stonewalled from within[1] and prevented from keeping the FSF on course.

Re: Shannon Dosemagen and the FSF

2020-03-01 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt
This list is dedicated for discssions about the GNU project and the GNU system where no other GNU mailing list is suitable, discussions about the FSF are better directed to the FSF.

Re: Shannon Dosemagen and the FSF

2020-03-01 Thread Andreas R.
On Sun, Mar 01, 2020 at 03:13:15AM -0500, John Darrington wrote: > > I share your concern. Over the last few years many people have noticed > a shift towards extremist support of idealogy which is orthogonal to the > Free Software cause. And the board has not kept this in check. According to

Re: Shannon Dosemagen and the FSF

2020-03-01 Thread John Darrington
kept this in check. > Recently, the FSF has announced having Shannon Dosemagen as a keynote > speaker at libreplanet.?? Shannon is in no way a representative of the > Free Software movement, and represents an organization, Publiclab, I have never heard of this person nor the organi

Re: Shannon Dosemagen and the FSF

2020-02-29 Thread Mike Gerwitz
that drives away large segments of the population from the > mission of promoting Free Software. > > > Recently, the FSF has announced having Shannon Dosemagen as a keynote > speaker at libreplanet. This may be better raised at libreplanet-disc...@gnu.org: https://lists.gnu.org/m

Shannon Dosemagen and the FSF

2020-02-29 Thread aviva
of promoting Free Software. Recently, the FSF has announced having Shannon Dosemagen as a keynote speaker at libreplanet.  Shannon is in no way a representative of the Free Software movement, and represents an organization, Publiclab, centered on concerns for environmental activism.  The two