My opinion on that:
* Ludovic Courtès [2019-11-03 17:37]:
> To what extent is the success of GNU, a project with thousands of
> volunteers, due to the dedication of a single person?
You imply with "single person" to be Dr. Richard Stallman.
It is evident that many people participated and
Hi Jason,
Jason Self skribis:
> This has been one benefit to the GNU Project having the BDFL model, as
> some other projects also have. There's been one person to keep the GNU
> Project on point with regard to these social, ethical, political, and
> moral issues rather than having them get
Hi Andy,
Andy Wingo skribis:
> The realm of ideas pertains to the FSF: theory, organization, advocacy,
> and so on.
>
> GNU, on the other hand, is about action in the software domain: the
> construction of an ever-growing software commons, putting the theory of
> the FSF into practice, and
On Sat, 2019-11-02 at 10:08 +0100, Andreas Enge wrote:
> There is a misunderstanding: My understanding of the question was to
> discuss how the relationship between the FSF and GNU should be
> organised *in the future*, and how we should reasonably split the
> roles between the FSF and us, the GNU
Hello Jason,
thanks for the historical explanation, which is very interesting!
On Fri, Nov 01, 2019 at 06:49:19PM -0700, Jason Self wrote:
> In closing, attributing the GNU Project's founding philosophies to the
> FSF when it didn't even exist at the time and indeed was even started
> with a
* Mark Wielaard [2019-11-02 02:21]:
> On Fri, Nov 01, 2019 at 07:09:46PM +0100, Andreas Enge wrote:
> > The FSF is also a charity collecting donations and running servers and so on
> > for GNU, so it is very practical indeed. The latter could maybe move to GNU
> > proper, with the former needing
On Fri, 2019-11-01 at 19:09 +0100, Andreas Enge wrote:
> the FSF is there for the philosophy, and GNU for the
> practical realisation. But then I think things are not as easy as
> that.
Indeed it's not: Those that know GNU history will know that the GNU
Project existed for 2 years prior to the
On Fri, Nov 01, 2019 at 07:09:46PM +0100, Andreas Enge wrote:
> The FSF is also a charity collecting donations and running servers and so on
> for GNU, so it is very practical indeed. The latter could maybe move to GNU
> proper, with the former needing to remain at the FSF, as well as legal
>
* Andreas Enge [2019-11-02 02:09]:
> Hello Andy,
>
> while I am not very happy about your military analogy, my first reaction
> was that indeed, the FSF is there for the philosophy, and GNU for the
> practical realisation. But then I think things are not as easy as
> that.
Also think about the
Hello Andy,
while I am not very happy about your military analogy, my first reaction
was that indeed, the FSF is there for the philosophy, and GNU for the
practical realisation. But then I think things are not as easy as that.
The FSF is also a charity collecting donations and running servers
Hi Andy,
On Wed, 2019-10-30 at 22:17 +0100, Andy Wingo wrote:
> So my question is: is GNU fundamentally about producing coherent,
> empowering free software systems, or is it fundamentally about
> developing and propagating an inspiring, liberatory philosophy?
I think it is both. There is no
Andy Wingo wrote:
> If the work of GNU is fundamentally philosophical, then perhaps yes -- maybe
> no developer who uses a smartphone is suitable to be a part of GNU
> decision-making
This is based on implication that ‘smartphone’ is something that inevitably
runs lots of nonfree software.
It is both simultaneously, intertwined and inseparable. Well, I
suppose it *could* be separated but then it wouldn't stand for the
same issues anymore. The GNU Project is a technical effort based on
the social, ethical, political, and moral issues that RMS has raised
and been discussing for the
Greetings, comrades :)
In the context of the recent discussions about what it means to be GNU,
how GNU should be organized, and about the virtues and risks of building
a more bottom-up governance structure for the GNU project, I started
wondering a bit more about the nature of GNU.
I think we
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