Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Richard Stallman should be reinstated to President of the FSF
在 2020年02月23日 08:08, Ruben Safir 写道: On 2/22/20 7:51 AM, Alexandre François Garreau wrote: rms cannot be simply reinstated into FSF because he left himself willingly. For him to go back inside FSF would require initiative from him, added to efforts of both parts. ___ Hangout mailing list [email protected] http://lists.mrbrklyn.com/mailman/listinfo/hangout This is indeed true, although he left because he was being bullied. Ruben I can't see my emails wrote the mailing list, why? Is there a censorship? I wrote the below email to the mailing list: 转发的消息 主题: Re: [[email protected]: What's GNU -- and what's not] 日期: Sat, 22 Feb 2020 09:56:47 +0800 发件人:徐继哲 - Xu Jizhe 组织: XUJIZHE 收件人:Alfred M. Szmidt , [email protected] Yes, GNU has a very clear vision and philosophy, and with a world wide community, driven by volunteers, since last century, over 40 years. If we force or suggest the volunteers to add a "Social Contract", it's something like ask the users to click the "Agree" button on the EULA. It's not a good idea. We should be open to everyone to be the volunteers to support the vision and the project. And I saw there is a trend in community, some people trying to force the narrow political right ideas to the others. Please think the GNU Project's history, it's not a closed organization, not a country, so don't use a "State a of GNUnion" idea to think the project. GNU is a free, open and world wide community, there is no boarder, it's comprehensive, that's why I could be part of the movement since 2005. 在 2020年02月06日 14:36, Alfred M. Szmidt 写道: -- 徐继哲 - Xu Jizhe 生生不息，繁荣昌盛！Live long and Prosper! [email protected] +86 186 1279 0101 http://www.xujizhe.com
Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Richard Stallman should be reinstated to President of the FSF
FSF seems defunct. When was the last time we had a glorious Peoples Action, such as the Cisco lawsuit? Forever ago. It's not doing what it's supposed to do: which is protect the copyrights it holds (whole reason it induces their hand over to begin with) On 2020-02-22 12:51, Alexandre François Garreau wrote: rms cannot be simply reinstated into FSF because he left himself willingly. For him to go back inside FSF would require initiative from him, added to efforts of both parts. ___ Hangout mailing list [email protected] http://lists.mrbrklyn.com/mailman/listinfo/hangout
Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Richard Stallman should be reinstated to President of the FSF
Since the NYLXS mailing list doesn’t seem to respect unsubscribe requests, the only fix I’ve found to this appears to be blocking [email protected] Feb 17, 2020, 05:13 by [email protected]: > The list has flooded me with hundreds of repeated messages. I have received > two unsubscribe messages, but I am still not unsubscribed. Completely > unwelcome and massive spamming (several hundred emails over less than a week, > most or all of them repeats from gnu-misc-discuss. > > Complete agreement with J.B. Nicholson on this issue. > > > On February 17, 2020 7:57:43 PM GMT+07:00, [email protected] wrote: > >Why don't you like being subscribed to his list? > >I'm subscribed too, automatically, but I'm GLAD for it. > >Don't look a gift horse in the mouth. > >What, this list isn't GOOD enough? > >On 2020-02-17 04:40, J.B. Nicholson wrote: > >>> Ruben Safir wrote: >>> Nobody but Stallman can do what he does, as a spokeman, and > >strategic > planner to protect end users from the abuses of non-free software. >>> >>> If that's true then everything RMS headed up is in deep trouble. At >>> some point everyone needs to be replaced if only because nobody lives >>> forever. I don't agree with the above quoted claim. I think it's >>> possible to find whom we need to keep the free software social >>> movement going and I think it's important that more people speak >>> publicly about software freedom as a value unto itself. >>> >>> I won't post to your other mailing list to which I was apparently >>> subscribed without asking, and I cannot unsubscribe (the links in the >>> email were unreachable). I shouldn't have to unsubscribe as I >>> shouldn't have been subscribed in that manner in the first place. >>> ___ >>> Hangout mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.mrbrklyn.com/mailman/listinfo/hangout >>>
Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Richard Stallman should be reinstated to President of the FSF
The list has flooded me with hundreds of repeated messages. I have received two unsubscribe messages, but I am still not unsubscribed. Completely unwelcome and massive spamming (several hundred emails over less than a week, most or all of them repeats from gnu-misc-discuss. Complete agreement with J.B. Nicholson on this issue. On February 17, 2020 7:57:43 PM GMT+07:00, [email protected] wrote: >Why don't you like being subscribed to his list? >I'm subscribed too, automatically, but I'm GLAD for it. >Don't look a gift horse in the mouth. >What, this list isn't GOOD enough? >On 2020-02-17 04:40, J.B. Nicholson wrote: >> Ruben Safir wrote: >>> Nobody but Stallman can do what he does, as a spokeman, and >strategic >>> planner to protect end users from the abuses of non-free software. >> >> If that's true then everything RMS headed up is in deep trouble. At >> some point everyone needs to be replaced if only because nobody lives >> forever. I don't agree with the above quoted claim. I think it's >> possible to find whom we need to keep the free software social >> movement going and I think it's important that more people speak >> publicly about software freedom as a value unto itself. >> >> I won't post to your other mailing list to which I was apparently >> subscribed without asking, and I cannot unsubscribe (the links in the >> email were unreachable). I shouldn't have to unsubscribe as I >> shouldn't have been subscribed in that manner in the first place. >> ___ >> Hangout mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.mrbrklyn.com/mailman/listinfo/hangout
Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Richard Stallman should be reinstated to President of the FSF
Why don't you like being subscribed to his list? I'm subscribed too, automatically, but I'm GLAD for it. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth. What, this list isn't GOOD enough? On 2020-02-17 04:40, J.B. Nicholson wrote: Ruben Safir wrote: Nobody but Stallman can do what he does, as a spokeman, and strategic planner to protect end users from the abuses of non-free software. If that's true then everything RMS headed up is in deep trouble. At some point everyone needs to be replaced if only because nobody lives forever. I don't agree with the above quoted claim. I think it's possible to find whom we need to keep the free software social movement going and I think it's important that more people speak publicly about software freedom as a value unto itself. I won't post to your other mailing list to which I was apparently subscribed without asking, and I cannot unsubscribe (the links in the email were unreachable). I shouldn't have to unsubscribe as I shouldn't have been subscribed in that manner in the first place. ___ Hangout mailing list [email protected] http://lists.mrbrklyn.com/mailman/listinfo/hangout
