Re: Endorsement of the GNU Social Contract

[Andreas Enge]

Hello,

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 05:26:12PM +0100, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> Today is “I Love Free Software” day and we want to thank you for being
> part of GNU!

nice point, I also love free software, even a few days later! So thanks
to all GNU people, among others, for providing us with free software.

Nonsurprisingly,
   I, Andreas Enge, maintainer of package GNU MPC, endorse version 1.0
   of the GNU Social Contract, available at
   .
I think it is a really nice document that summarises our commitments
to the world. :)

Andreas



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Re: Endorsement of the GNU Social Contract

[Mark Wielaard]

Hi GNU,

I, maintainer of GNU Classpath, endorse version 1.0
of the GNU Social Contract, available at
.

Thanks,

Mark


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Re: Endorsement of the GNU Social Contract

[Jean Louis]

* Andrej Shadura  [2020-02-17 22:41]:
> I, the maintainer of package GNU indent, endorse version 1.0 of the GNU
> Social Contract, available at:
>  

Please, that subject is not related to GNU, it is political group of
people who would like to get control over GNU project, but we can have
our wishes as we want -- it makes no difference.

You are welcome to contribute to GNU.

Endorsements of non-GNU statements you should do on non-GNU websites.

Jean

Re: Endorsement of the GNU Social Contract version 1.0

[Ruben Safir]

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On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 09:57:02AM +0100, Mark Wielaard wrote:
> Hi Andrej,
> 
> On Mon, 2020-02-17 at 09:56 +0300, Andrej Shadura wrote:
> > I, the maintainer of package GNU indent, endorse version 1.0 of the GNU
> > Social Contract, available at:
> >  
> 
> Thanks for your support. You have been added to
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Mark

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Re: Endorsement of the GNU Social Contract version 1.0

[Mark Wielaard]

Hi Andrej,

On Mon, 2020-02-17 at 09:56 +0300, Andrej Shadura wrote:
> I, the maintainer of package GNU indent, endorse version 1.0 of the GNU
> Social Contract, available at:
>  

Thanks for your support. You have been added to


Cheers,

Mark

Re: Endorsement of the GNU Social Contract

[Alfred M. Szmidt]

   > You have now, for the second time, send me a message as part of a
   > mass-mailing to a list to which you added me without my consent.  This
   > is spam and illegal under European law, as the data subject never
   > consented to you processing the data.

   The same applies to gnu-community-private, among others.

False, membership of g-c-p is up to each member, they can either
subscribe or unsubscribe. 

The GNU project did not give you permission to abuse the personal
information of GNU maintainers.

   I’m sorry you see it that way.  We were careful to write:

   > If you think this is inaccurate, or if you no longer want to be
   > contacted about this initiative, please let us know about it.

Does not matter under EU law, you need to give consent first before
assuming it.  People subscribed to lists have explicitly given it, so
have GNU maintainers when they became maintainers.

Re: Endorsement of the GNU Social Contract

[Edscott Wilson]

Seems to me that "contracts" are all about taking away your freedom, once
lawyers get their hands on them. I don't see any need to fix something
which is not broken. So why take the trouble?

But then I read a few more lines at the bottom of the proposal.

The wording may seem like a preparation for a similar event to what
happened very recently at the FSF. And that makes me wonder.

Yeah, I know that no one lives forever but can't that bridge be crossed
when we get there?



El vie., 14 de feb. de 2020 a la(s) 10:35, Ludovic Courtès (l...@gnu.org)
escribió:

> Dear GNU maintainer,
>
> Today is “I Love Free Software” day and we want to thank you for being
> part of GNU!
>
> You are receiving this message because you are listed as responsible for
> a GNU package in the ‘maintainers’ file on fencepost.gnu.org.  If you
> think this is inaccurate, or if you no longer want to be contacted about
> this initiative, please let us know about it.
>
> On January 28th, we emailed you regarding on-going work by the authors
> of this message to devise a “GNU Social Contract”.  The goal of this
> document is to formulate a common core set of values for the GNU Project,
> on which we can jointly build to form a stronger community.  It is both
> an agreement among us, GNU contributors, and a pledge to the broader free
> software community.  Additionally, we think it can be a first step towards
> formalizing a transparent and collective governance of the GNU Project.
>
> We received a number of questions and suggestions on the first draft of the
> document, witnesses to our collective approach to shaping a document that
> can help us go forward together.  We discussed all the input with great
> care; it is documented, together with the adopted resolutions, at:
>
>   https://wiki.gnu.tools/gnu:gsc-feedback
>
> The result of all this is version 1.0 of the GNU Social Contract as
> appended
> below, which can also be seen at:
>
>   https://wiki.gnu.tools/gnu:social-contract
>
> We believe that the outcome is an even snappier document, which lays out
> our common foundations even more clearly, and thank everyone of you who
> contributed to improving it.
>
> We now invite you to send a message, by February 24th, preferably signed
> with your OpenPGP key, to social-contract@gnu.tools (private alias) and
> optionally to gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org (public mailing list), containing
> one of the following statements:
>
>   • I, maintainer of package X, endorse version 1.0 of the GNU
> Social Contract, available at
> .
>
>   • I, maintainer of package X, do not adhere to version 1.0 of the
> GNU Social Contract, available at
> .
>
> The current status is maintained at:
>
>   https://wiki.gnu.tools/gnu:social-contract-endorsement
>
> Thanks in advance for your participation!
>
>   - Ludovic Courtès
>   - Andreas Enge
>   - Carlos O’Donell
>   - Mark Wielaard
>   - Andy Wingo
>
> 
>
> # GNU Social Contract 1.0
> ---
>
> These are the core commitments of the GNU Project, which creates and
> distributes a software system that respects users' freedoms.
>
> ## The GNU Project respects users' freedoms
>
> The GNU Project provides software that guarantees to all users the
> _Four Essential Freedoms_, without compromise:
>   0. The freedom to run the program as they wish, for any purpose.
>   1. The freedom to study how the program works, and change it so it does
>  their computing as they wish.
>   2. The freedom to redistribute copies so they can help others.
>   3. The freedom to distribute copies of their modified versions to others.
>
> The GNU Project adopts policies that encourage and enable developers
> to actively defend user freedom.  These policies include using
> _copyleft licenses_, designed to ensure that users’ freedoms cannot be
> stripped off, when appropriate.
>
> Besides upholding the Four Essential Freedoms, the GNU Project pays
> attention to new threats to users' freedom, and responds to them as they
> arise.
>
>
> ## The GNU Project provides a consistent system
>
> The GNU Project develops an operating system, the _GNU System_, as well as
> a set of applications.  Each software component developed by the GNU
> Project
> is referred to as a _GNU package_.  GNU package developers work together to
> ensure consistency across packages.
>
>
> ## The GNU Project collaborates with the broader free software community
>
> The GNU Project works together with other free software projects to
> advance its goals, and aims to extend the reach of the project beyond
> the GNU System.
>
>
> ## The GNU Project welcomes contributions from all and everyone
>
> The GNU Project commits to providing a harassment-free
> experience for all contributors.  It wants to give everyone the
> opportunity of contributing to its efforts on any of the many tasks that
> require work

Re: Endorsement of the GNU Social Contract

[Ludovic Courtès]

Hi Christian,

Christian Grothoff  skribis:

> You have now, for the second time, send me a message as part of a
> mass-mailing to a list to which you added me without my consent.  This
> is spam and illegal under European law, as the data subject never
> consented to you processing the data.

The same applies to gnu-community-private, among others.

> More interestingly, repeatedly asking for me to sign your "Social
> Contract" is clearly a form of harassment in violation of your own
> "Social Contract".

I’m sorry you see it that way.  We were careful to write:

> If you think this is inaccurate, or if you no longer want to be
> contacted about this initiative, please let us know about it.

I take note that you do not want to be further contacted, should that
ever happen, which is unlikely.

We’ve known each other for some time, Christian, and I think we can
disagree without taking such a confrontational approach.

Thanks anyway for your feedback and apologies for the inconvenience.

Ludo’.

Re: Endorsement of the GNU Social Contract

[Christian Grothoff]

Dear Ludovic,

You have now, for the second time, send me a message as part of a
mass-mailing to a list to which you added me without my consent.  This
is spam and illegal under European law, as the data subject never
consented to you processing the data.

More interestingly, repeatedly asking for me to sign your "Social
Contract" is clearly a form of harassment in violation of your own
"Social Contract".

Please stop.

Christian

On 2/14/20 5:26 PM, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> Dear GNU maintainer,
> 
> Today is “I Love Free Software” day and we want to thank you for being
> part of GNU!
> 
> You are receiving this message because you are listed as responsible for
> a GNU package in the ‘maintainers’ file on fencepost.gnu.org.  If you
> think this is inaccurate, or if you no longer want to be contacted about
> this initiative, please let us know about it.
> 
> On January 28th, we emailed you regarding on-going work by the authors
> of this message to devise a “GNU Social Contract”.  The goal of this
> document is to formulate a common core set of values for the GNU Project,
> on which we can jointly build to form a stronger community.  It is both
> an agreement among us, GNU contributors, and a pledge to the broader free
> software community.  Additionally, we think it can be a first step towards
> formalizing a transparent and collective governance of the GNU Project.
> 
> We received a number of questions and suggestions on the first draft of the
> document, witnesses to our collective approach to shaping a document that
> can help us go forward together.  We discussed all the input with great
> care; it is documented, together with the adopted resolutions, at:
> 
>   https://wiki.gnu.tools/gnu:gsc-feedback
> 
> The result of all this is version 1.0 of the GNU Social Contract as appended
> below, which can also be seen at:
> 
>   https://wiki.gnu.tools/gnu:social-contract
> 
> We believe that the outcome is an even snappier document, which lays out
> our common foundations even more clearly, and thank everyone of you who
> contributed to improving it.
> 
> We now invite you to send a message, by February 24th, preferably signed
> with your OpenPGP key, to social-contract@gnu.tools (private alias) and
> optionally to gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org (public mailing list), containing
> one of the following statements:
> 
>   • I, maintainer of package X, endorse version 1.0 of the GNU
> Social Contract, available at
> .
> 
>   • I, maintainer of package X, do not adhere to version 1.0 of the
> GNU Social Contract, available at
> .
> 
> The current status is maintained at:
> 
>   https://wiki.gnu.tools/gnu:social-contract-endorsement
> 
> Thanks in advance for your participation!
> 
>   - Ludovic Courtès
>   - Andreas Enge
>   - Carlos O’Donell
>   - Mark Wielaard
>   - Andy Wingo
> 
> 
> 
> # GNU Social Contract 1.0
> ---
> 
> These are the core commitments of the GNU Project, which creates and
> distributes a software system that respects users' freedoms.
> 
> ## The GNU Project respects users' freedoms
> 
> The GNU Project provides software that guarantees to all users the
> _Four Essential Freedoms_, without compromise:
>   0. The freedom to run the program as they wish, for any purpose.
>   1. The freedom to study how the program works, and change it so it does
>  their computing as they wish.
>   2. The freedom to redistribute copies so they can help others.
>   3. The freedom to distribute copies of their modified versions to others.
> 
> The GNU Project adopts policies that encourage and enable developers
> to actively defend user freedom.  These policies include using
> _copyleft licenses_, designed to ensure that users’ freedoms cannot be
> stripped off, when appropriate.
> 
> Besides upholding the Four Essential Freedoms, the GNU Project pays
> attention to new threats to users' freedom, and responds to them as they
> arise.
> 
> 
> ## The GNU Project provides a consistent system
> 
> The GNU Project develops an operating system, the _GNU System_, as well as
> a set of applications.  Each software component developed by the GNU Project
> is referred to as a _GNU package_.  GNU package developers work together to
> ensure consistency across packages.
> 
> 
> ## The GNU Project collaborates with the broader free software community
> 
> The GNU Project works together with other free software projects to
> advance its goals, and aims to extend the reach of the project beyond
> the GNU System.
> 
> 
> ## The GNU Project welcomes contributions from all and everyone
> 
> The GNU Project commits to providing a harassment-free
> experience for all contributors.  It wants to give everyone the
> opportunity of contributing to its efforts on any of the many tasks that
> require work.  It welcomes all contributors, regardless of their gender,