Re: Mining the Blogosphere

2010-05-04 Thread Hyman Rosen

On 3/18/2010 10:28 AM, RJack wrote:

It is amazing to watch the communication strategy that Free Software
advocates utilize in promoting their socialist goals.

The fanfare and sheer volume of internet posts surrounding the
announcement that the SFLC had filed suit against Best Buy and thirteen
other corporations was impressive.


So apparently the socialist goals of the FSF are suspect
but copying and distributing GPL-covered code against the
wishes and exclusive rights of its creators is fine and not
socialist. This is about the level of reasoning I would
expect from anti-GPL cranks, so I can't say I'm surprised
to see this, but the stupidity is truly astonishing.
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Re: Mining the Blogosphere

2010-05-04 Thread RJack

Hyman Rosen wrote:

It's also no surprise that an anti-GPL crank faced with the
contradiction of opposing FSF socialism but favoring copying and
distribution against the wishes and rights of copyright holders has
no response other than profanity.


One man's profanity is another man's prayer Hyman.

Try to be open minded sweetheart. I'm going to be nice and ask Alexander
to not make a fool of you for a whole *week*. That'll maybe help to get
you out of your present grumpy mood.

Sincerely,
RJack :)
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Re: Mining the Blogosphere

2010-05-04 Thread Moshe
On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 09:28:40 -0500, RJack wrote:

 It is amazing to watch the communication strategy that Free Software
 advocates utilize in promoting their socialist goals. The FSF and
 SFLC have created an efficient network of Astroturf sites that is
 dedicated to promoting their goals. Moglen, Perens, Khun, Lessig and
 a growing list of advocates routinely pop up and utter some
 pronouncement concerning the undefined concept known as open source
 or F/L/OSS. These utterances are then picked up and amplified throughout
 the Blogosphere and quickly assume an aura of invincible truth.
 
 The fanfare and sheer volume of internet posts surrounding the
 announcement that the SFLC had filed suit against Best Buy and thirteen
 other corporations was impressive. I Googled [sflc best buy
 infringement] and received 67,400 hits (an unscientific but relevant
 search). Obviously the announcement was considered an important
 development. Best Buy countersued for a declaratory judgment of
 non-infringement. A judgment of non-infringement in favor of Best Buy
 would utterly demolish the myth of Richard Stallman's copyleft
 principle. So, how many blogs have noted this fact? I Googled
 [sflc best buy non-infringement] and received 34 hits. Free Software
 advocates are obviously great at practicing the politics of communication.
 
 One poster to these news groups, amicus curious, aptly pointed out that
 the SFLC was probably going to be able to walk away with propaganda
 victories through voluntary dismissals until some company found it
 financially worthwhile to end the SFLC's legal charades. It appears that
 circumstance is well nigh at hand. I wonder how the Blogosphere will
 react to the death of copyleft.
 
 Sincerely,
 RJack :)

Every time I start mining the blogosphere I keep coming up with a
shovel full of pyrite = fool's gold = Roy Schestowitz Propoganda.

He has literally polluted just about everything that used to be
good WRT Linux and the discussion of Linux.

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Re: Mining the Blogosphere

2010-05-04 Thread Hyman Rosen

It's also no surprise that an anti-GPL crank faced with
the contradiction of opposing FSF socialism but favoring
copying and distribution against the wishes and rights of
copyright holders has no response other than profanity.
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Re: Mining the Blogosphere

2010-05-04 Thread Alan Mackenzie
In gnu.misc.discuss RJack u...@example.net wrote:

 One poster to these news groups, amicus curious, aptly pointed out that
 the SFLC was probably going to be able to walk away with propaganda
 victories through voluntary dismissals until some company found it
 financially worthwhile to end the SFLC's legal charades. It appears
 that circumstance is well nigh at hand. I wonder how the Blogosphere
 will react to the death of copyleft.

How would you react to this hypothetical death, were it to become
reality?  Given that, by choice, you don't use GPL'd software, why do you
care so much?

 Sincerely,
 RJack :)

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).

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Re: Mining the Blogosphere

2010-05-04 Thread chrisv
David Kastrup wrote:

 One poster to these news groups, amicus curious, aptly pointed out
 that the SFLC was probably going to be able to walk away with
 propaganda victories through voluntary dismissals until some company
 found it financially worthwhile to end the SFLC's legal charades. It
 appears that circumstance is well nigh at hand.

It's not like you would tire sounding that trumpet of doom.  After a few
years of that, the excitement wears off a bit.

Amicus curious, also known as rat, is a pathological liar and is
an unabashed supporter of the Microsoft Corporation.

-- 
Well, to tell the truth, I would be one of the first to sign up as a
Bill Gates fan if there were a club being formed.  -  Rat
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Re: Mining the Blogosphere

2010-05-04 Thread RJack

Hyman Rosen wrote:

On 3/18/2010 10:28 AM, RJack wrote:

It is amazing to watch the communication strategy that Free
Software advocates utilize in promoting their socialist goals.

The fanfare and sheer volume of internet posts surrounding the 
announcement that the SFLC had filed suit against Best Buy and

thirteen other corporations was impressive.


So apparently the socialist goals of the FSF are suspect but
copying and distributing GPL-covered code against the wishes and
exclusive rights of its creators is fine and not socialist.


The goals of the FSF are suspect because they are perpetrating a fraud
by illegally attempting to steal other people's exclusive rights.


This is about the level of reasoning I would expect from anti-GPL
cranks, so I can't say I'm surprised to see this, but the stupidity
is truly astonishing.


Your overpowering intelligence and intellectual prowess is
impressive Hyman. The World should bow before Your Majesty.

Captain Moglen scared them out of the water!
http://www.fini.tv/blog/finishing_line_files/a44f9390355368f87dc47b7ec094f93e-36.php

ROFL. ROFL. ROFL.

Sincerely,
RJack :)
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Re: Mining the Blogosphere

2010-05-04 Thread RJack

Hyman Rosen wrote:

On 3/18/2010 10:28 AM, RJack wrote:

It is amazing to watch the communication strategy that Free
Software advocates utilize in promoting their socialist goals.

The fanfare and sheer volume of internet posts surrounding the 
announcement that the SFLC had filed suit against Best Buy and

thirteen other corporations was impressive.


So apparently the socialist goals of the FSF are suspect but
copying and distributing GPL-covered code against the wishes and
exclusive rights of its creators is fine and not socialist. This is
about the level of reasoning I would expect from anti-GPL cranks, so
I can't say I'm surprised to see this, but the stupidity is truly
astonishing.


I see you're grumpy today Hyman. What's the matter boy?
Did Alexander piss in your bowl of Cheerios this morning?
Put on a happy face! :)

Sincerely,
RJack

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Re: Mining the Blogosphere

2010-05-04 Thread David Kastrup
RJack u...@example.net writes:

 Hyman Rosen wrote:
 It's also no surprise that an anti-GPL crank faced with the
 contradiction of opposing FSF socialism but favoring copying and
 distribution against the wishes and rights of copyright holders has
 no response other than profanity.

 One man's profanity is another man's prayer Hyman.

You have strange gods.

-- 
David Kastrup
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Re: Mining the Blogosphere

2010-05-04 Thread David Kastrup
RJack u...@example.net writes:

 It is amazing to watch the communication strategy that Free Software
 advocates utilize in promoting their socialist goals. The FSF and SFLC
 have created an efficient network of Astroturf sites that is dedicated
 to promoting their goals. Moglen, Perens, Khun, Lessig and a growing
 list of advocates routinely pop up and utter some pronouncement
 concerning the undefined concept known as open source or
 F/L/OSS. These utterances are then picked up and amplified throughout
 the Blogosphere and quickly assume an aura of invincible truth.

Feel free to do the same.  Oh, you already do.  Could there be a reason
why nobody picks _your_ utterances up?

 The fanfare and sheer volume of internet posts surrounding the
 announcement that the SFLC had filed suit against Best Buy and
 thirteen other corporations was impressive. I Googled [sflc best buy
 infringement] and received 67,400 hits (an unscientific but relevant
 search). Obviously the announcement was considered an important
 development. Best Buy countersued for a declaratory judgment of
 non-infringement. A judgment of non-infringement in favor of Best Buy
 would utterly demolish the myth of Richard Stallman's copyleft
 principle.

A lot of judgments happen one way or the other without earth-shattering
consequences.  So there is even less reason to get all excited over
hypothetical judgments.

 So, how many blogs have noted this fact?

fact as a term for describing hypothetical consequences for a
hypothetical event is definitely not the normal use of the word.

 One poster to these news groups, amicus curious, aptly pointed out
 that the SFLC was probably going to be able to walk away with
 propaganda victories through voluntary dismissals until some company
 found it financially worthwhile to end the SFLC's legal charades. It
 appears that circumstance is well nigh at hand.

It's not like you would tire sounding that trumpet of doom.  After a few
years of that, the excitement wears off a bit.

 I wonder how the Blogosphere will react to the death of copyleft.

I recommend learning the use of the subjunctive mode when you are
spilling one of your wet fantasies.

-- 
David Kastrup
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Re: Mining the Blogosphere

2010-05-04 Thread Hyman Rosen

On 3/18/2010 4:26 PM, RJack wrote:

The goals of the FSF are suspect because they are perpetrating a fraud
by illegally attempting to steal other people's exclusive rights.


The goals of anti-GPL cranks are suspect since they espouse
copying and distributing the work of others against their
wishes and against their exclusive rights. The FSF cannot
take away anyone's exclusive rights, and no one is forced
to copy and distribute GPL-covered code. Anyone who chooses
to do so must, however, abide by the license.
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