Re: Web versions, thoughts

2021-04-04 Thread Parodper

O 02/04/21 ás 21:13, Zany And Crazy escribiu:

> Porting something to the web is not only rewriting from >scratch in JavaScript

Isn't WebAssembly a way to make C++ code run in the browser? I thought
that's what it was.



But code is not the only thing that forms a program. There is also the 
need for the graphical interfaces, which is usually written in HTML+CSS. 
Also, interacting through a web browser is different from a native 
system. You need to take into account the different types of screens and 
devices.


And all of this costs money, in both developers and servers. Executing a 
webpage every time you need to run a program costs more than just 
downloading and running locally.




Re: Web versions, thoughts

2021-04-04 Thread Jacob Bachmeyer

Zany And Crazy wrote:

Porting something to the web is not only rewriting from >scratch in JavaScript



Isn't WebAssembly a way to make C++ code run in the browser? I thought
that's what it was.


The API available to WebAssembly code is radically different from the 
API for native code, as I have previously mentioned.  A HURD port is 
theoretically possible, and would be needed for most GNU packages to be 
meaningfully ported in this way.



-- Jacob




Re: Web versions, thoughts

2021-04-04 Thread Jean Louis
* Zany And Crazy  [2021-04-02 22:14]:
> >Porting something to the web is not only rewriting from >scratch in 
> >JavaScript
> 
> Isn't WebAssembly a way to make C++ code run in the browser? I thought
> that's what it was.

How I have understood from reading, it is not hard to modify or
prepare it for WebAssembly, some compilers have that target too.

Jean



Re: Web versions, thoughts

2021-04-04 Thread shulie
On 4/1/21 12:31 AM, Zany And Crazy wrote:
> I stopped reading after about the 3rd or 4th
> post, so I have no idea what you guys are saying. 30 years have
> passed, Linux and all it's software's market share stands at what, 2%



usenet isn't working any more for you




Re: Web versions, thoughts

2021-04-02 Thread Zany And Crazy
>Porting something to the web is not only rewriting from >scratch in JavaScript

Isn't WebAssembly a way to make C++ code run in the browser? I thought
that's what it was.



Re: Web versions, thoughts

2021-04-02 Thread Parodper

O 01/04/21 ás 06:31, Zany And Crazy escribiu:

OK, I posted that post about putting software on the web because I
thought it's a cool idea. I stopped reading after about the 3rd or 4th
post, so I have no idea what you guys are saying. 30 years have
passed, Linux and all it's software's market share stands at what, 2%?
The world has moved on  - to the web. So, it's obvious that all the
folks WRITING those software, who're not doing it for the money, AT
LEAST WANT AN AUDIENCE! And putting it on the web will GIVE you that!
So - what the fuck are you arguing with *ME* for?? If there IS a
problem with making it "free" - FIGURE OUT A WAY OUT OF IT! I'm on
YOUR side - let's do it, shall we? :)
Microsoft is going to "move to the cloud" soon - if THIS isn't Linux's
chance, I don't know WHAT THE FUCK IS!
Come on guys, get together and put your heads together now :) I wanna
see all those things running nice n quick inside my BRAVE browser Real
Soon :)



You seem to think this is easy. It is not. Porting something to the web 
is not only rewriting from scratch in JavaScript, which by itself is 
difficult, but you would have to redesign the programs to fit the web. 
That would require maintaining two separate versions of the same program.


Also, since on your message you talk about Microsoft moving to the 
cloud, I'd guess you are talking about Office. That would mean 
LibreOffice and OpenOffice to us, because most of the GNU programs 
*can't work* on the web, since they are so tied to an operating system. 
For those you already have web terminals.


You also think that the cause of the low market share of GNU programs 
(vague and therefore false, there are famous and not-so-famous programs) 
is the lack of an audience, but putting something on the web does not 
make it automatically announce itself. Microsoft did not change the 
popularity of its programs by moving them to the web, they were already 
famous so it made them economic sense to move them to the web.




Web versions, thoughts

2021-03-31 Thread Zany And Crazy
OK, I posted that post about putting software on the web because I
thought it's a cool idea. I stopped reading after about the 3rd or 4th
post, so I have no idea what you guys are saying. 30 years have
passed, Linux and all it's software's market share stands at what, 2%?
The world has moved on  - to the web. So, it's obvious that all the
folks WRITING those software, who're not doing it for the money, AT
LEAST WANT AN AUDIENCE! And putting it on the web will GIVE you that!
So - what the fuck are you arguing with *ME* for?? If there IS a
problem with making it "free" - FIGURE OUT A WAY OUT OF IT! I'm on
YOUR side - let's do it, shall we? :)
Microsoft is going to "move to the cloud" soon - if THIS isn't Linux's
chance, I don't know WHAT THE FUCK IS!
Come on guys, get together and put your heads together now :) I wanna
see all those things running nice n quick inside my BRAVE browser Real
Soon :)